If points were awarded for defending crosses, Brighton wouldn’t have anything to worry about.
Dunk and Duffy gleefully cleaned up 14 corners and hundreds more balls into the box to get their side what could be a priceless result come the start of May.
On the rare occasions the big center backs didn’t make it, Mat Ryan and the post bailed them out as the home side, somewhat predictably couldn’t find a way through.
I don’t want to be overly harsh on Wolves though.
Breaking down a team that surrenders any and all attacking intent is a challenge that even the very best can’t always overcome.
Brighton setup as they would at the Nou Camp, which I suppose is understandable under the circumstances.
Wolves are not as adequately equipped for such a challenge but to their credit they passed and probed as much as the system and personnel allows.
Again, you’re looking at what Nuno has on the bench to breakdown such resistance and it’s telling he didn’t turn to either Costa or Cavaleiro.
Vinagre and Dendoncker both made a positive impression on the game, but there can be no debating the lack of viable forward options was again our Achilles heel.
To further underline the problem Jimenez had the worst game I can remember for a long time, operating exclusively on the peripherally of the action.
Jota was also on the fringes for long periods, but the header against the post and the first half burst that so nearly paid dividends were the only real highlights of this sunny stalemate.
One major positive is how little we gifted to Brighton. They only mustered one corner and barely managed another ball into the area all afternoon.
This game was always going to be about finding a breakthrough and not giving it away at the other end, so at the very least I’m content to put another point on the board. Not as content as Brighton mind.
Still, it’s good to get a result post-Wembley and ahead of what will be a very different challenge against Arsenal in midweek.
God that was boring!
We really have to solve the conundrum of the bottom 6 because, if we don’t, next season we could well end up as one of them.
I’m in a bit of a negative mood because my 94 year old mum has been admitted to A&E after a fall. That’s topped off a great few weeks for theDOOGooder household.
Please Nuno, give us all something to shout about for the rest of the season, it would be a tragedy if it all fizzles out.
Let’s start with a win against Arsenal.
Best wishes regarding your mother.
Thanks Tim. I’ll pass them on mate.
Sorry to hear your mum’s had a tumble Mark…. we both wish her a speedy recovery and will be thinking of you all… love from Lilian and Mike…. xx
Cheers Mike.
i think I just want this season to end now.
Sorry to hear about your mum, hope she’ll soon be on the mend.
Cheers Border. Hoping for the best.
Hope your mam recovers soon Doog
Mike
Ta Sevlow. She’s a tough old bird.
I guess it is better to be in 8th and doing well against the better teams and poorly against the bottom teams than being in 15th and doing well against the bottom teams and poorly against the top half teams.
Wolves have to figure out what is necessary to do well against these lower table teams but I think they had a plan 3 years ago and are sticking to it. That is to assemble a team of young budding stars and be able to take on the better teams in an exciting style.
They probably didn’t realize that these lower team issues would occur but now that they have seen them for two straight seasons, they will have to realize that there is a fundamental flaw in the team and try to figure out whether it is the players or the style of play.
I really thought we’d put this curse to bed today like so many others Nuno has done in the past 2 years.
We tryed yeah, but we tryed the same thing over and over again, like the corners short I counted at least 4 corners short and none of then came off so why did we keep doing them.
We passed from side to side time and time again no one wanted to shot from distance not even Neves.
The subs had no effect, dare I say it some looked like they were on the beach Raul espeailly.
It would be a great pity to let this season fizzle out but one thing for sure is we need to develop ways to combat teams that park the bus because we are not going to progress the way we want to if we don’t.
I was at Wembley last week, and seem to remember Doherty scoring from a short corner; thought the 4 short ones were as good as the dozen long ones today to be honest. As I’ve said before, MGW didn’t do a lot for me today, lost possession and let a Brighton player turn him and cross into the box – he’s more interested in getting ‘whoos’ from the supporters with fancy dan long balls and generally ‘doing a Lingard’, instead of getting into their penalty area. He could come good, but if we had a midfielder who could get in their and score 10 goals a season, we’d be in the top 4; everything else we have already.
I fully agree with your comments re MGW In my view he is, as yet, nowhere near Premiership standard. He is at this time not an asset to our side.
Regarding corners Paul, when you get one, you either ping it into the middle, or play it short. I wernt counting myself but if we played four short and they didn’t work, that means we pinged ten into the box, and that didn’t work either. Bit of a conundrum really, ain’t it.
To be honest, we were more likely to score from a Brighton corner than one of our own.
Why I mentioned the short corners is because Brighton got wise to them. Where as a long corner are harder to defend.
Short corners you can stop before they get anywhere near the goal……!
For those of you who thought I was crazy when I said I couldn’t see us winning another game this season, especially those eleven who ‘disliked’ my post on this page, it gives me no pleasure to say it’s two out of two with four to go and I see no reason to change my mind.
I still think you are crazy for predicting that.
I think you could well be right, Arsenal, Liverpool, Watford again, who can be confident we’ll win any of those ? As I’ve said, the team is jaded and we might do better to give some reserves an opportunity. I don’t see why Traore and Vinaigre didn’t start against Brighton,even Cav and Costa couldn’t have done worse than those who played could they ?
You got lucky yesterday with your insightful prediction. Any normal day would have seen 2 goals from that many chances. True?
Na bollocks. We’ll beat Arsenal easy
Yep, I agreed with that post Mildenhall and the 0-0 result on Saturday didn’t surprise me either.
We have Arsenal on Wednesday which will be interesting, but crucially, I can’t see us beating Watford right now.
The positive from the last few games is that for all the fantastic work that Nuno, his staff and the team have done, we are now collectively realising the significant task of trying to progress to the next level. If we are to genuinely aspire to competing with the top six, there are probably no more than 6 players who started today who you would even consider as contenders for a first team berth. So, in my opinion, a summer window of heavy investment and acquiring 4 to 5 quality players and shipping out a similar number might see us get closer to the top six. However, I think it will probably 2 to 3 seasons before we seriously threaten. We have done brilliantly in less than 100 games under nuno but we have to remember we are coming from a very long way back.
Be interested in which six you think. I would say at least eight myself. Patricio, Coady, Boly, Doherty, Neves, Moutinho, Jiminez and Jota. What we lack is strength in depth and quality options off the bench. I think we need a striker, a wide attacker, an attacking central midfielder and a centre back – so 4 quality signings. Then with a squad of around 22 supplanted by some of the youngsters currently excelling in the U23’s I think we can compete. Just my view.
See my comment above. The team on the pitch today, with exception of MGW, should beat 90% of other teams in the Prem. Agree on strength in depth, but would have liked to have seen a few more from the under 23’s coming off the bench at this stage.
I honestly believe what we lack most is an attacking midfielder either who can play in the gaps (David Silva style) or breaks into the box Lampard style, or can go past a player. Obviously I don’t expect us to get that standard of player, but I think not having a similar player has cost us 10-15 points this season.
When we play these teams our midfield nearly always plays in front of them rather than someone getting in between the lines and turning or taking someone on. Not to say our midfield are not good players, its just not their style. Against better teams our more compact midfield works better because we can defend well then hit Jota etc. On the break.
Could we not revert to the more ‘1st chelsea game’ style against these teams and play a midfielder further forward or false 9 or no.10 (maybe Cav) rather than playing a more flat 3? If the other teams gets a foothold the midfielder can always drop in. Finally in these games I firmly believe Vinagre would be the better option at lwb purely because he is prepared to take people on and take a risk.
Hopefully a problem solved for next season.
James Madison has been excellent in that role this season, and he was in the championship last term. I think we’ll see a quality number 10 join in the summer
You’ve absolutely nailed it for me mate a quality attacking central midfielder who has an appetite to get forward. For me Neves has neither the pace or the inclination for this role unless he is being coached to sit deeper since the signing of Moutinho.
Pretty much totally agree LukeW. If we had that attacking midfielder that goes past people and scores 10 goals a season, this team would be top 4. Unfortunately, it would mean no place for Dendonker, but just think what a Joao Felix would give us. Not only that it would enable us to switch formation, even mid-game to a 4-4-2 with a diamond midfield – Coady at the base of it and a Joao Felix at the attacking tip of it, with Neves and Moutinho either side. We’d also start beating bottom 6 sides with that ability.
Well the team on Saturday certainly hasn’t beaten 90% of the other teams in the PL has it? So there must be something wrong if your assessment of the current ability level is valid.
Agree with all that Bedders, with the most important word being ‘quality’. All the teams at the top have evolved their squads over several seasons, player here, player there, like a very expensive jigsaw.
Rome, as they say, wasn’t built in a day.
The two of your eight that I think might struggle to be in a top six side are Coady and Doherty. They would certainly be very close and I think Coady is a brilliant captain but I’m not sure Coady has sufficient strength particularly in the air against the very best and doherty, who again has had a brilliant season, is not quite good enough with his final end product given the number of times he has the ball in positions of threat around the 18 yard box. Harsh comments possibly but getting into a top six team is the land of fine margins and having the ability to deliver week in week out.
Fulham tried that approach… we only need 2 quality signings; don’t forget our fantastic under 23’s will start coming through.
We should have started Vinagre and Traore . You need pacey players to beat their man to counter these type of teams .
Still as I don’t want to be 7 th it is ok .
The real issue is that we have inadequate resources up front. Jiminez and Jota are massively talented, but when, as today , they are not at their best, we have no striker on the bench to bring on and turn things around. Surely, this major shortcoming must be addressed in the summer.
I for one, would prefer that we miss out on the 7th spot in the table. Intensive early season extra games would almost certainly damage our prospects for further improvement over a long season, particularly given Nuno`s preference for operating with a very small squad. Therefore, would it not make sense in the remaining games of this season to give opportunities to those in the Academy who are believed to have exceptional promise ? For example Ennis . They could readily replace those consistent non performers such as Costa, who surely will not be here next season anyway.
agree with most of that Mike, but maybe Jiminez and Jota weren’t at their best because of tactics? why were almost all our crosses high ones when their defence are great in the air and poor with their feet? we could have took Bennett off for the last 30 minutes and put an extra forward on etc.
A day to count our blessings.
I mean imagine being a Brighton fan?
Spending your time following a team with precious little quality and absolutely no ambition? You then travel a long way to see a football match where only one team actually wants to play and only one team was interested in winning – and neither of those were Brighton. I mean – what is the point? Why are they in the league? Season after season of desperately trying to cling on for survival.
Makes you glad to be a Wolves fan. Ok so we didn’t break down their Berlin Wall-esque massed defences but hey, at least we played football and at least we tried to score and win and, most importantly, at least we have ambition.
I almost hope Cardiff stay up and Brighton go down as at least Colin is entertaining.
OODCL
We play to slow its backwards and sideways all to often we need another striker a box to box midfielder and to try and speed up play. When teams just sit with 11 men behind the ball we dont have a clue how to break them down its just the same we nred a plan b c or d.
Get James Rodriguez and Andre Silva on along with Jota and Jimenez and see what happens.
I get the slow play. I get the frustration. I get that I was tearing my hair out. I was totally fed up with proceedings. But there was only one team that wanted to play and Brighton did a job. They did it well. As much as I was going to sleep there you go. The goaless draws . Wolves ay we
I can’t imagine how frustrated Nuno and the boys must be after that debacle. They obviously started out knowing full well how important that initial breakthrough would be but, try as they might, and I feel they busted several guts in trying, it just wouldn’t come.
I can see ’em now, back in the dressing room post match, kicking the locker doors and throwing water bottles against the wall to vent off steam from the injustice of it all.
Just one of those chances needed to drop our way and it would all have been so different. But it didn’t. So it wasn’t.
Ah well, on to Arsenal. Now that will be a whole different ball game.
Ya never know, that maybe the point that gets us seventh!
Another point to the tally, now if we get three against arsenal mid week … happy days
I have no memory of ever beating arsenal ( although I know that we have) and so this is the one I want to win
I was pissed off when they pinched a draw earlier at their place so it’s payback time, then who gives a flying Chinese fart about only getting one point yesterday. Not me
Arsenal 3 points
Fulham 3 points
Watford 1 point
Liverpool 1 point
Utw
Sometimes you just know we’re not going to score and I got that feeling in the first minute yesterday.
We huffed and puffed and every player tried their hardest. But they kept trying the same thing. High crosses into the box which most of the time Brighton were well able to defend.
OK we hit the woodwork a couple of times but there seemed to be no plan B and no player able or inclined to take hold of the ball and run at them.
And that is the sort of player I would like to see purchased in the summer plus more depth added to the bench. I know Nuno likes a small squad and no doubt his reasons are good. I would love it if someone could explain them to me.
Felt for MGW yesterday. He has already shown that he has the right level of ability and awareness but after those first few brilliant cameo performances he is realising the strength concentration and discipline that is required permanently over 90 minutes.
It’s clearly knocked his confidence and the only way to rebuild that is by hard work and getting game time. In many ways yesterday was a perfect opportunity to play but as it turned out there was little space to move the ball in the final third and he probably switched off a couple of times.He won’t be overjoyed at his performance and it doesn’t make it easier for Nuno to start him next time. But hopefully it’s helped the education.
If we are going to try and grow our own we have to accept this is likely to happen. We now have a very high quality, young, first team with a season of prem experience under their belt. The gap which any young player has to manage in order to truly establish themselves in that squad is huge. To find one player in a season like Vinagre who appears to have made the grade is a real positive, we can’t expect that to be the case for everyone .
Truth is most of those introduced into the squad from the U23 will fail, even though like Bright and Ronan they have ability to carve out a career elsewhere. But I think all of us really appreciate the occasions when we are able to field ‘one of our own’ who has truly made it.
I hope we can all get behind MGW and give him every chance to be the future Moutinho, even though there’s like to be another 20 million, 22 year old midfielder in the pipeline this transfer window.
Not wanting to throw a Spaniard in the works, but, MGW seems to be taking some stick on here this time round. I thought he had one of his best games for ages, he was taking the ball down from the air in awkward positions, twisting and turning so much that on one of the occasions (and there were a few) that he made the defender look stupid, he was duly up ended and left on the deck. He did tire in the second half, but that’s understandable given his limited game time.
Jonny on the other hand gave the ball away to the opposition so many times I was beginning to think he’s donned the wrong colour shirt in the first half. Our substitutions changed it up a gear, young Vinagre turned their two right sided defenders inside out, and our two midfield guys spotted it straight away. Neves and Moutinho were firing balls out to him as they realised he may be the answer to the Brighton strong defensive effort. But, alas the poor lad lacked the nous to see how feckin brilliant he was at that point in the game and he started passing inwards instead of taking them on more, at that point he was tearing them to pieces.
The biggest thing that upset me was, my 9 year old grandson who has deposed Jen de Wolf from her own seat and banished her to the Billy Quiet. He couldn’t get enough games in and has attended quite a few this season. He suddenly announced he’s going to his own footy training on Wednesday and not to the Arsenal game. That worries me, because that’s how fickle folk are nowadays. I admit to being bored to the point of looking for feckin razor blades after the first few minutes, so a 9 year old with the attention span of a goldfish was never going to enjoy that.
I was in the Stile with RikRak pre-match and there were a fewBrighton fans in there singing “we’re gonna win feck all” and that about summed them up yesterday.
I truly hope they go down and Colin stays up, at least his team gives it a go, albeit in a thuggish, brutish manner, but it makes the game interesting.
On to Arsenal, we owe them a 2-0 due to their late goal at the Emirates.
On a separate issue, Manchester City council are to take over Brexit negotiations as they managed to get the whole of Manchester out of Europe in just two days.
Breaking news, Sergio Aguero has just signed a 30 year contract extension…
See photo below-
We huffed and puffed but their house would not fall down. Not surprisingly considering they had 10 players behind the ball for most of the game. We did something similar away at Chelsea, if you are looking to not lose rather than not win, that’s what you get – a poor excuse for football.
They had 2 touches inside our penalty area, ah well they were desperate for at least a point and they achieved that.
Wolves never committed a single foul in the match – that must be a record!?
I watched the match via the interweb and it was so frustrating to watch.
Onto Wednesday and the Arse. That should be interesting…..
Just spotted this on facebook.
I think we’re getting an Italian player…
Or another Mexican.
Short corners you can stop before they get anywhere near the six yard box where anything can happen.
Long corners put the defending side espeacilly goal keeper under pressure.
Lesson over….!
I’m reading a fair few negative comments on here regarding MGW. I actually thought he was pretty lively in the first half, snapping at the Brighton midfield/backline winning the ball back high up the field and recycled it quite well.
I must admit I’d have liked to have seen him get into the box more, after a couple of little one twos with Raul he always looked the play it out wide rather than try and carry it forward. A combination of resolute Albion defending and a lack of confidence I think. But a run of starts for him over the last few games will do him the world of good I think.
Well said Stafford, I wrote a great long piece this morning on MGW, only to see it disappear into the Albion trophy room, so that’s feckin gone for ever.
The lad played the best he has all season yesterday, understandably he tired quickly due to lack of playing time and the subs were made at the right time.
Spotted this yesterday,
Sergio Aguero has signed a 30 year contract extension with City.
I’d agree on MGW he looked to have some fine close control of the football yesterday& he shone in the first half. He needs games.
Can’t believe their old fashioned centre forward Glen Murray didn’t earn himself a booking with the hands in the face of Bennett ploy to all the high balls.
We were just a whisker away from a decent home win yesterday. Jota extremely unlucky not to have got a goal with his diving header. It was one of those days, the little flicks didn’t come off, the shots Doherty, first half, & Jominez second went over the bar. Dendonker headed from point blank range into the hands of the keeper. I remember a few goalmouth scrambles & thinking how they didn’t go in I’ll never know.
Not the win needed then to heal the smarting wounds of Wembley a few weeks ago. But we’re in the top 10, & the ball must run for us at some point. Our other opponents won’t put 10 men behind the ball either. Roll on Wednesday night.
Interesting that a lot of Debbie Downers are starting to come out of the woodwork.
I take yesterday, as well as all the other “ park the bus” opponents we’ve faced, as a huge compliment to us.
These cannon fodder sides know they will struggle to beat us and the rest of the top seven, and so play anti football in the hopes of getting one lucky break during the 90 minutes.
Our problem is that we are nowhere near being competent enough to break them down………. yet.
It will come, as all good things do to those who wait.
Remember Fosun’s first season in charge?
Zenga.
Lambert.
Nearly relegated.
Then along came Nuno, who I am still convinced was first choice originally, and we stormed the second division.
But, we had the unexpected upsets along the way, and dealt with them.
A lot of us, me included, unrealistically expected us to roll over and crush more teams than we have this season, but it will come, we just gotta wait.
Fosun have a cunning plan, which has only started to be revealed.
And as so succinctly put above, imagine being a Brighton fan, or a fan of any of the bottom half of the Prem, with nothing to look forward to except an annual relegation battle.
No, I am not upset, or pissed off, or super critical.
Our management team know who is not good enough and who they want.
Once again, we need to see the bigger picture, sit back and enjoy the ride!
Starting with Arsenal.
Penultimate home game on Wednesday.
See you there bloggers.
Total domination yesterday, except at the sharp end! An early goal and CFH’s usual prediction would have likely come good. Talked to Brighton fans on the way out who apologised for boring us rigid. Comments on here about MGW are harsh and, like those starting to come from the whingers, need disposing of (one of whom was sat behind me yesterday constantly criticising and abusing all that moved). MGW is a young lad breaking into the big league. He started with two terrific win-backs and simply faded in time. Moutinho was, as always, pure gold. We were up against a very well built brick wall and just needed a bit more variety to knock it down – maybe Traore earlier, but could we really be sure of that yet? And the corners were fine. Vinagre made a big impact and I was a bit surprised he didn’t start.
As for the 7th position issue, I’ve never much been in favour. People on WM after the game saying it wouldn’t be a problem as the squad would be strengthened – but July qualifiers would mean them being pitched straight in, with no cohesion from a decent pre-season. We’ve seen in the last two years what a good pre-season can do so let’s have another and take the next step next year, when there will be more and bigger challenges from teams who now know what to expect.
Can’t add much to the above. Too many crosses into the big CHs, too few attempts to play through them on the floor and too slow at circulating the ball. I’m beginning to think that is why we do well against the top 6 – they move the ball quickly and we settle into the same rhythm, whereas against the lesser lights we struggle to up the tempo. Certainly the addition of a no. 10 who can play between the lines would have helped yesterday. MGW shows great potential but yesterday we needed a little more than potential. Thought Jonny had an off-day too by his own high standards.
In all honesty I thought Nuno had learned a lesson from the Cardiff game – play these unambitious teams with a lot of pace out wide and a couple of ball-winners in midfield. Oh well, onwards and hopefully upwards
I really cannot understand this inability to beat the bottom teams who keep 10 in defence (excluding the keeper.)
Just damn well run at them (preferably with the ball) and attract the foul, or even better the penalty.
If the foul, then Neves to take the free kick and plant it in the back of the net, left or right side, l don’t give a care. Job done!! If the penalty, Jimenez much of the same – job done.
That’s my rant over.
I’m thinking Wolves are the team that started the Man U crash.
We destroyed them Tim, off to the Championship are the Mancs.
I agree with a lot of the posts about not wanting European football next season. A finish of 8th-10th is a fantastic first season back. Nuno will have learnt a lot this season and hopefully he can further develop the squad and find a way of unpicking more defensively minded teams.
With all this in mind, certainly over the next 3 games, l hope he experiments with the current squad a little. Give MGW more game time. Try Dendoncker in defence as another option. Give Traore and Vinagre a full game against Fulham. Get some of the Under 23’s on the bench and give them a run out. What about trying Neves higher up the pitch rather than his current deeper role.
Having used so few players this season the first Xl are looking jaded and the Watford defeat has obviously taken its toll, understandably so. So why not tweak the team, maybe even the formation against Fulham. Give some fringe players game time. I know Traore splits opinion, but l think he offers enormous potential, can Nuno find a more effective role for him? Let’s not waste the end of the season playing the same Xl. We know what they can do!
In Nuno we trust, I’m sure he will prevail. The Gunners are going to be turned over, big time Honley, its tweaks we need not massive changes from game to game.
Guys, I find most of the comments on here hard to believe. This is your first season back in the Premiership. You have been fantastic. How can you possibly complain about where you are. I am a Brighton fan and we have something to be unhappy about. Last season we stayed up, invested a lot of money and are in grave danger of going down. We have played the worst football of any Premiership team that I have ever seen.
You should take note of Burnley, who, like yourselves, had a great season and then ended up flirting with relegation. You need to remember those many years outside of the Premiership instead of talking about breaking in to the top 6, which is highly unlikely to ever happen. Enjoy the great football that you are playing and your league position, whatever it may be.
Thanks for your supportive comments mate.
Trouble is, Fosun are by all accounts, the richest owners, bar none, in the Premier League, and have stated their intention of cracking the Big Six in five years I think it is.
And we’re football fans, who are never satisfied.
Having said that, we seem to have cracked the Big Six this season, judging by results – it’s the rest we have trouble with.
Best of luck for the rest of the season, I’ve always had a soft spot for Chris Hughton. A good man and a decent manager.
Hey up,
Thanks for the positives Paul
Problem is expectations grow when you have a good crack at a cup & match or outplay most of the top 6.
I do (& many support this in here) remember beating Rotherham 1:0 at home in one of the worst performances I’ve ever seen (in 40 + years), the Dean Saunders games. The Morgan & Moxey years.
So if we don’t get another point this season we’ve excelled this season & only see us kicking on in coming seasons.
I have a father-in-law (Villa fan) that is convinced we play shite when we loose & when we win it should be by more.
For me I try not to post negative comments and are so happy with our success over the last few years with this being THE best season in my memory.
As far as yourselves with Chris H I sincerely hope we’re playing you next year & Colin with his sheep shaggers take the last place for Chumpionship Oblivion
Not our best day, yesterday; the ball never quite ran for our lads, Jimenez was somewhat off his usual game and we tended to play to their strengths. I was saying at half time that we needed to bring on Vinagre and Traore as their play tends to bring extra players out of the centre to cover their markers and we were desperate for space in there. Traore has his knockers on here. Two out of three drives forward from him he will end up a blind alley, but he always drags three, not two, markers out to stop him and one in three of his crosses does bring out the oohs from the fans. Vinagre also drags extra markers out. I could not believe that they were not brought on earlier. Arsenal may suit our play more but they will want to come back from yesterday’s result badly, so… Whatever the result on Wednesday, let’s hope for a proper game of football. I don’t blame Brighton for their tactics, which are a huge compliment to our team. I’m sure we will be working in the background to amend this weakness of our team against strong defensive set ups of the opposition and new recruits over the summer may be on their way with remedies in mind; a creative mobile number ten with good finishing credentials must be top of the list, but with no Europe, such assets will be hard to attain. Having seen our ability to find little comparatively unknown gems over the last few seasons, hears hoping…
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I’m curious. Why do we need a deep lying defensive midfielder when we have possession in their end most of the game?
Is it that hard to have Neves play further up the field in this circumstance?
What am I missing here?
I must admit, Tim, I too wondered why Ruben was left on when Leander came on and the much more attack minded MGW withdrawn.