Humiliation can take many painful forms but none, I’m quite sure, are as excruciating as this.
I’m not just referring to the scoreline either.
That didn’t even flatter them.
In every possible way that one team can better another, they did so emphatically.
And of all the damning statistics in Albion’s favour on this grave occasion, 26 shots on goal is perhaps the one that appropriately underlines their dominance in a match that served to highlight the crippling deficiencies of this Wolves side.
Where do I start?
Above all else, our chronic inability to pass the ball inside the opposition’s half continues to upend our progress.
Aside from Fletcher’s juggling act and majestic finish to drag us level completely against the run of play, our tactics were as one-paced and predictable as they normally are.
In possession we have 2 routes to goal, namely:
1. Pass to Jarvis.
2. Go long and feed off scraps.
That approach, however well executed, will rarely get the job done at this level, as 5 wins in 25 matches will testify.
We need more craft, more variety, more guile.
You know, attributes that actually separate us from lower league sides.
Today’s teamsheet, whilst suggesting a refreshing, attack-minded approach, simply offered no cohesion.
It was lunacy.
Yes, that 11 brought home the bacon against 10-man QPR but surely we needed a cuter strategy in a local derby against a side with a full compliment of players on the pitch?
Obviously not, if your name is Mick McCarthy.
And that brings me to the inescapable fact, that above and beyond anything or anyone else, he is to blame.
He picks the team, he defines the strategy and he shapes the style of play.
The buck stops with him.
And his time is now up.
You simply cannot argue against it.
What frustrates me most about a man I have the utmost respect for, is that he patently does not learn from his mistakes.
Case in point, we were slaughtered in the first half today and only bailed out by a moment of brilliance.
Now surely any rational manager (or human being for that matter) would gratefully clasp this second chance and alter their tactics accordingly?
He did not and ultimately, every gold shirt inside Molineux paid the price.
Now he must do the same.
I’m of the opinion this group of players are capable of better; much better in fact based on today’s debacle.
Yet some still seem to question whether any manager could do better?
My response is simple:
Could anyone do worse?
This game has been the tipping point of many fan’s patience with him, including myself. We should have been fired up for a game that was both against two relegation-threatened teams AND a derby, yet by the look of things the players no longer believe in Mick.
I can’t see Mick surviving this, I really can’t! If Morgan doesn’t sack him though, then perhaps you have to admire his….um, patience?
He’s done a lot for the club but we need a new manager!
As soon as Doyle began the game in RM you could tell he still thought he was a CF. At the end I think Jarvis was playing CM for some reason.
Most worryingly is that as soon as Bassong went off we began to leak in the goals, all of which I felt they were avoidable.
Whilst we can call for McCarthy’s head for as long as we like, the simple fact is there is nobody to replace him……Peter Reid, Neil Warnock, alan curbishley, alan shearer, Steve bruce, Kevin Keegan.
None of those names fill me with an immediate feeling that they could do better.
Agree with all your points save one – the final one.
Any of those names you mention could do better because nobody could do worse.
I love Mick to bits for everything he’s done, but today was an all too familiar tale of woe.
Something has to change.
Sure they sound better, but they all have seriously bad flaws
Peter Reid- Took Plymouth Argyle to league 2, and lost all but 1 of his league 2 games before being sacked (18 I think)
Neil Warnock- had a significant amount of money with QPR, spent a fair bit, but couldn’t guide them clear of the bottom 3, plus I’m not keen on these rumours of him falling out with his players a lot
alan curbishley- hasn’t been in management since 2008
Alan Shearer- Only had an 8 match spell with Newcastle in which he only won 1 game in 2009.
Steve Bruce- manager of Birmingham, despite spending over £30 million on transfers he could only take Sunderland towards the bottom 3.
Kevin Keegan- In my view the best option, but he hasn’t managed since 2008 and seems to have changed his career to becoming a pundit.
Steve Coppell- Looks good but would he show favoritism towards Doyle and Hunt?
Sean O’Driscoll- first team coach at Nottingham Forrest, a wolves fan, but he’s out of the question as I believe compensation would be needed.
Ian Holloway would be my choice
An young and hungry manager that lost his best players when Blackpool were relegated. He has managed to build up a new team and fights yet again for promotion with little Blackpool. And he is a manager that likes to play the kind of football Wolves are not playing at the moment – attacking football.
I keep saying what about Chris Hughton,doing a great job at brum with no money.
My 83 year old Mom could do better…
Joking apart, its not about who could do better anymore is it?
Who could do any worse..
That was total humiliation, I never want to fell like that at a match again..
Someone is taking the piss out of hardworking money paying fans..
Its got to stop.
McCarthy has to go.
Sir Jack would never have allowed this to happen, neither should Morgan…
A replacement doesn’t have to be from the scrap heap. Why not try someone up and coming – perhaps a Poyet or Solskjær? It couldn’t be any worse. Above all I’d like to see someone who believes in playing football rather than long punts to the big unit up front. Look what Swansea have achieved so far by sticking to their principles.
Good call. Or Nigel Adkins, Lee Clark, Chris Hughton, Malcay McKay, to name but 4. And if anyone dares utter ‘well why would they want to come’, then they’ve unwittingly outed the crux of Steve Morgan’s entire tenure: no aspiration, no progression and no compelling argument that we are any better than the very clubs that Mick is credited of leaving behind in 2008.
Better without the prick than with him i think.FOMM.
Mick said- “I can’t give any more messages to the fans – I’ve apologised for the performance which is about all I can do just at the moment”.
What a disgrace!!! The message he should be giving to the fans is that he has done his best to get us into the Premier League and admit that he is unable to establish us as a Premier League club.
Do us all a favour Mick and walk away…….NOW!!!!
I hav previously been a staunch defender of mccarthy in fact I still think the fact that we got promoted in such style and stayed has much to do with the team and work ethic he put together. But that just simply isn’t enough for us to go forward. The holes in our team have been blatant since we were promoted and 4 windows later there are still no permanent solutions. His tactics currently go from the bizzare to the insane. I gave him the benefit of the doubt with the transfer window and Frimpongs injury. But the first half performance against qpr and today are just unacceptable. A Curbishley or Bruce would do better. So thanks for everything Mick but you can’t continue.
Almost stumped for words really,absolutely gutted for all the wolves fans today who witnessed such humiliation,MORGAN show us fans u give a shit,before u loose what fans u have left,ur as much to blame as Mick!!!!! forever wolves!!!!
How about Steve Copell??
Yea Why not Cant be any worse than this..
Give anyone a shot till the end of the season…
Ince, Bully,.. Anyone..
Give em 14 games to get as many points and hope its enough.
If they fail, well they tried. We are going down anyway as it stands.
How about replacing Mick with Steve Copell??
If you could guarantee Coppell wouldnt bail at the first sign of trouble,then maybe. No right minded man would want to work for Morgan or Moxey anyway, let alone Coppell.
This should be a seminal moment in our recent history…but it won’t be.
the club will roll its eyes at our howls of pain, mutter the word ‘fickle’ under its breath, and remind us about an academy redevelopment while our own kids are ‘not seen and not heard.’
And the blackening North Bank appauls.
February 12 2012: a day I will never forget again, as Jez Moxey tells me to book 23 more next year before its too late.
Please Jez, Steve, from the bottom of my heart, stop this subordination and give me my club back.
We can’t defend and we’ve got no creativity. That’s a combination that is going to leave you in trouble, no matter what level you play. The fact we rely on Milijas for creativity tells you how desperate things have become.
I started watching the match sitting down ….ended up lying down with the quilt over my head…need I say more?
Any one watching MOTD tonight ???
I feel Sick, and its not because of the beer…
How to get humiliated on live TV… Starring Mad Mick and his group of Jackasses
I would have said Donkeys.
But that’s an insult to Donkeys cos the ones on Blackpool beach have got more energy and pace than our 24
Let’s give Mick some more time, no point panicking yet!
Are you a Baggies fan.. Cos that’s what they have been saying to me all afternoon..
Mick has had plenty of time. His time is up.
No need to panic? Okay then, am I allowed to cry instead, as our arch rivals beat us 5-1 on.our own patch, in our biggest Derby defeat since Churchill was in power? Are we so pathetically meek, limp and shit that a local Derby thrashing is a mere sidenote to a call to ‘not panic?’do fans not realise the sheer gravitas of this fixture? That our most hated of adversaries takes the piss again (after Jordao, Balis, choke season, South Bank invasion, 4 wins in a year, Vela, etc etc etc)
Does it not hurt and grate at your mind as you close your eyes at night?
Such is our insipid surrender in this fixture that few even refer to it anymore, let alone expect from it.
I couldn’t give a flying fuck if we can turn it around, or ‘have time.’ We’ve just been embarrassed against a team my grandad used to tell us we’d beat on a 1-7 aggregate.
Words are so fucking cheap when WBA fans have one memory that trumps a million letters.
It is bad enough we get humiliated, but even worse that this fixture is now largely insignificant because of our miserable surrender.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. McCarthy should have gone ages ago but Morgan has stubbornly stuck by him. If McCarthy had any regard for the club and us fans then he should walk NOW. He’s shown that he is not capable of turning things around and we would be better off with no manager at all at the moment rather than sticking with him any longer.
Morgan must act now or suffer the backlash he deserves from fans.
Well, say what you like, but I think we should appoint Steve Bull as manager of our club. Sure, it will probably end in tears, but there needs to be a change, and at least Steve Bull appreciates the fans and the history of this once great club.
Sorry guys but your defence is exceptionally poor. You don’t only need to discuss if you need a new manager but you need to think how many players you need to re[place.Its a lot and you need to do it soon. Guys I would like you to stay up —not for any cynical reason but because it’s always a great derby between us. Hope you pull away from the losers.
It was awful.
There was no plan, no thought, no flair other than Fletcher.
Ward was back to his abysmal worst.
Foley looks well short of match practice.
O’Hara is not in the same league as Frimpong.
Edwards scurries about but gets nowhere.
SEB out of depth.
Jarvis our only outlet surrounded when he got the ball.
Doyle where was he playing?
Johnson ok with Bassong.
Hennessey, bound to make a mistake or two considering how many saves he has to make!
Bassong kept us together in the second half till he went off and defensively we fell apart.
Anyone is better than McDickWad he has lost all confidence.
I’d prefer Paul Ince and definitely Darren Ferguson, even Roy Keane would do better than Mick McCarthy.
Look at how Surman and Bennett play for Paul Lambert in a team that has 35 points.
There is no excuse for McIdiot and if he was a man who had any honour, he’d fall on his sword and resign……
Don’t forget our own Mark Davies.what a player he’s turned out to be.FOMM.
In the first 6 minutes we only actually had the ball on 8 occasions and completed ONE pass in total before losing possession.
Guess who had the ball the rest of the time?
The rest of the game was much the same.
We lost 1-5 at home to a team just above us.
1-8 would have been a fairer result.
Our last game at home we had ONE shot on goal.
The manager is a disaster at this level.
Unfortunately, he is too arrogant to learn and too arrogant to resign.
Act now Morgan or take your ten quid back.
General comment say Mick’s team are hard working and never give up. Well on recent evidence this is far far from the truth. No industry and today we give up. Half hour v villa played well, Liverpool didn’t turn up and today was worse. If? We could play like we could for a whole game we will win. The manager is the man who gets his team to do this. Time to start
They are all fed up of running around like headless Chickens with no game plan…
That’s why.
You can forgive against a top 6 team. but not today, the players have seriously misread this one. Giving up against that lot down the road is unforgiveable.
The fans are now lost and unless Morgan acts now his latest Business venture is about to collapse around his ears.
The loss to QPR at home and Liverpool is Nothing compared to this…
What a disgrace to the shirt this shower of s**t have become…
With Sir Jack out of it now at his age, I really do fear for the future again..
Can’t believe micks naivety…. That team/shape, worked against QPR as they had 10 men and I think we owe a lot to hennessey that day (again). Surely with right winger Adam hammill sittin on the bench he had to be the one to turn instead of Doyle! N as for our best and most dangerous player Matt Jarvis in the middle of the park….. frightening! Personally I’d like to see a young manager with modern day football ideas (not knockin it long n battle for scraps all day) come in and work with our “young and hungry” players, maybe a carl Robinson or someone like that, although that would probably mean spendin a bit of cash but hey!!!
We may have to wait for any action as Steve Morgan did not attend the game. What disappoints me is that there was a lot of abuse of fans who didn’t need to be humiliated to know this management set up is not and never has been up to scratch. I find myself looking at that new stand in absolute disbelief that this has gone ahead. Local journalists have also failed with their ridiculous spin regarding the new training ground/housing development and the fans have been labelled mindless idiots. Were we really that mindless – we have just lost at home 5 – 1 to our rivals who have spent nothing like the money that we have invested. Jeremy Peace is criticised for not spending but he showed that business skill of ruthlessness and timing. Albion on peanuts were 16th when they sacked Di Matteo but Roy Hodgson became available and Peace acted. Those arrogant 3 M’s make my blood boil. They are a PR disaster, arrogant and completely out of touch. How many fans did they survey regarding the need for a new stadium? Us wolves were hardly up in arms about the facilities. I sit in the goose and like the civic hall, nice seat and stadium means NOTHING TO ME. I DON’T CARE ABOUT HAVING A PRETTY STADIUM. The 3M’s got wolves promoted and they are not considered these demi-gods – it really is a load of tosh.
Brilliant post. Oh for a ‘like’ button.
Steve Morgan Did not Attend the Game. !!!! Did I Read That right..?
So he can Bollock the players after seeing them lose to his beloved Liverpool… But he cant be Bothered to be at the biggest game of the season….against our greatest rivals.. the one game that means more than any other…
Then he is showing his true colours…
Sir Jack I fear you may have made a grave mistake, in selling to him. Although I know at the time nobody wanted to buy the club…..
This is going from bad to worse…
Nobody did buy the club really Nige. Our wonderful benefactor gave it away. I wonder if he rues the decision now.
*not – meant now. Also, how old is the current training ground? This new one is the biggest smokescreen I have ever seen.
Unfortunately your article is spot on, written to perfection & sums up exactly what I’ve been thinking all afternoon.
I’m gobsmacked, it’s now 10.15 pm & I ain’t heard that McCarthy has been sacked!!!
Personally I’d break the bank & go for Poyet & Wilkins, who I think would drive us forward & get us playing the right way, which the majority of this squad can do.
I mean FFS McCarthy bragged about signing Johnson coz he told him to fuck off last season when we played blues????
He should have been sacked after admitting that!!!!
Also, Hughton, Souness, Curbishly would all improve us.
The club need to act & act now.
What is the definition of insanity???
Expecting change yet continuing to do the same thing!!!!
Please listen Mr Morgan, you are no longer being loyal, but now are damaging our football club by undoing the great work done over the last 5 yrs, by yourself & your management team.
Totally agree poyet and Wilkins would be good
Some of us have been shot down time and time again (where are you JohnWolf????) for daring to suggest very early on this season that McStubborn wasn’t up to the job. Poor to none existant team strengthening in July wasnt even remotely addressed in Jan and as for strategy close your eyes and pray seems to be the only one on show. Surely no one can suggest that a barely ok WBA team can come to Molineux and humilate us and we will meekly accept a sorry from McKnob! Stroll on, do they really hold us in such contempt?
I dream over and over of opening Newsnow and seeing “McCarthy sacked”……….Please if there is a God!!!!!
Curbishley for me. Great record and less of a dinosaur than McStupid. Hasn’t managed for some time though so not sure how keen he is to get back into the game.
I still believe Wolves long term future is brighter than wba – they have got a few useful players at the moment and thats it – they cant afford to seriously invest in the clubs infra structure or develop the ground – there fan base is largely locked into the black country where as Wolves bigger fan base stretches out from the west midlands and can grow bigger.
jesus what planet are you from……
just been beaten 5-1 by the s**t down the road…
Does this club not mean anything to you..
Who cares about Fan base and Infrastructure after a match like that.
Wolves will have no fan base the way its going..
Do you not feel a sence of Humiliation, Disbelief, Anger, feeling of being let down, by management and players alike..
If not then you are not a true fan…
I feel all of these painful emotions but I agree with both of you. Right now, West Brom have better players. But we have untapped potential. Potential that is being COMPLETELY mishandled by manager and board by (dare I say it) too much loyalty, arrogance, and financial mismanagement (not enough spent on quality on the pitch). Players first, improvements later. Baggies are doing what they can. We’re not even trying, and it’s showing.
Also, it’s worth noting what happened to said Baggies after Hodgson took over. I feel something similar could happen to Wolves. And I think Roeder would be a decent shout, although I do admit I like the idea of Solskjaer.
The true boggie obviously enjoyed reading your more blog more than mine – i will never be ashamed to be a Wolves fan.
Baggies have invested in the infra structure, believe me your new training centre is Championship compared to the Baggies complex down the Walsall Road and the ground is up for development plus we didn’t have our debts written off. Our spending is earned not donated.
Could not believe your team from the start today, did you not learn anything from the game at our place. You have to keep it tight against us, frustrate the heck out of them and then catch us when we over commit. Attack us and you will get caught by how much speed we have up front.
Hope you stop up and with Fletcher I think you will but it looks like Mick will have to go.
‘Walsall Road ?’ well there you go.
You are fucking deluded or smoking something illegal.
Do you believe in bragging rights over football stadia?
Yeah this was awful. For once I want Mick gone, if only to see what would happen. Solskjær would be a fun and risky choice. I think Doyle played well at times, Fletchers goal was magnificent, otherwise not much to cheer for. Bassong ain’t much of an improvement over Berra, I was almost relieved when he was injured.
On the plus side, Guedioura was unofficial man of the match against watford last night. Good for him!
I’ve stood by Mick this season. Until now, that is. The writing’s been on the wall for a while… McCarthy’s done admirably to get us back into the Premiership but he’s failed to establish us. Everything is wrong at Wolves, the manager, the players, the board, and there needs to be massive change. Have to start somewhere, and the board won’t out themselves and the transfer window is closed. I won’t be surprised if Mick stays through the season. I’ll be beyond shocked, however, if Mick is at the helm of the club next season whether our away trips are to Chelsea, or Crystal Palace.
We can’t pay the lowest wages in the Premiership and expect to survive. Sure, the club’s finances are sound now. But all the ambitions of a bigger stadium and top-class training ground can’t be realized without the players to secure the money from the Premier League in the team first! We can only count ourselves lucky that Wigan, Bolton and Blackburn are down here in the mire with us. But we now lie in the relegation zone with the third-worst goal difference in the league and that stat only looks to drop further and further down. How much longer will we that wear the Old Gold with pride have to suffer? Or can there be any pride in our club with how it’s being run?
We’ll never get 19 points from 13 games at this rate. We just have to hope Wigan, Bolton and Blackburn keep slipping, or that we can find a vein of form from somewhere. Hope, however, is not enough. And really, looking at the QPR game, but for a certain striker in blue and white signed in the transfer window (gasp! Transfers? What are those? Never seen one before!) it should have been a loss, and we should be bottom. Maybe if we were, Morgan would see sense.
It is obvious to me that Morgan has been taking us for a ride ever since he stole the club from Sir Jack.
We need a new stadium, although the existing one is less than 20 years old, still in perfectly good condition, and never gets full.
We need to improve the training facilities, for our Academy, but we NEVER play any of our Academy grads, we just sell them for peanuts, or lend them out where they get rave performances week after week.
He kept moxey because he is a man after his own heart…a money-first man.
There was never any intention to run Wolverhampton Wanderers as a football club, with good players, a good manager with a good training staff, and a good scouting system.
No, it was always about the business, the business of asset stripping.
That is what it all boils down to.
He spent 10 pounds.
He has never had to put his hand in his pocket because income has exceeded outgoings, and he has been able to finance the redevelopment of the ground, a contract signed 2 days BEFORE our fate was sealed last season, alarm bells there, and the house building in Compton on the back of our Premiership status.
Now he has a more valuable asset in the new stadium, even though not complete, and his pretty little Compton development proceeding, he has a much more attractive package to sell, for a huge profit, for 10 quid, and he gets to pocket whatever parachute money he can.
Meanwhile, moxey the brown nosed, continues to run the club as a money machine, keeps picking up his fat bonuses, and doesnt give a toss to the club or the fans.
Morgan and moxey have no clue about football.
Neither of them have ever played or been lifelong, passionate fans, and I don’t mean Morgan’s lip service to Liverpool, anyone can do that, I mean watching your club, year after year, home and away, in the freezing snow of Halifax, the pouring rain of Oldham with a bog door for cover, or the agony and extacy of a good cup run, and the thousand other memories and experiences a true fan has. ( Look at the memory we’ve given shit fans today )
No, this has been a pleasure cruise for morgan, a winning lottery ticket, and a fuck you to all Wolves fans.
He has never been bothered about results, and had no intention of getting rid of McCarthy, nor never will. Why pay out compensation when you know long term you are going to scuttle the SS Wolves anyway?
Why get in someone who actually knows what they are doing when you can keep the village idiot to do your bidding without question?
Today’s game will be forever etched in our memories as much as Chorley is.
My wife asked me if we were playing shit, and I told her we were not that good.
I actually cheered when the fourth and fifth goals went in, and I really wanted them to score a few more, to really humiliate us, I was that disgusted with the performance, and the side line antics of those buffoons who call themselves the management.
Even at 1 – 4 down, that stupid fuck Conner was talking tactics to Shitferbrains.
Unfuckinbelievable.
Not for the first time, and I fear not for the last time this season, I am ashamed to be a Wolves fan.
Ashamed that the club I love has degenerated into this pile of shit.
Fuck you all, on the board, and in management, for dragging our wonderful club, and a huge part of our lives, down to theses depths.
I despair that we will ever recover.
…….. hear, hear.
Well fucking said
Agree, he has to go. Sad but true.
My choice would be Karl Robinson.
Bloody hell, even Hamlet and Louie have turned and still no announcement.
Morgan may be on holiday but this is now such a no-brainer surely Jez can take a few liberties and put the bloke out of his misery.
There was so much wrong today it’s hard to know where to start – selection / formation / tactics – but we are used to that. What we’ve usually had from MM’s Wolves is effort and commitment. Not today, in the biggest game of the year.
That should make this the easiest decision any club chairman will ever have to make.
And still we wait…
Here, here! It’s just an absolute disgrace that it takes something like this to unify all Wolves fans. It feels like a betrayal. I’ve calling for MM since Blackburn last season – in a cruel way I am glad to feel justified in my decision for MM’s head way back then. It’s been all downhill since. Morgan HAS to act. He has now backed himself into a corner with his constant ‘support’ for MM – this should be interesting.
I don’t think we played too badly in the first half – toothless in comparison, maybe, but even after they scored the first goal I still thought we had a way back in and that spurred us on to threaten more until Fletcher’s excellent goal.
I don’t know what Mick said at half time, but whatever it was f*cked it up, as in the second half we were shit.
Ward undoubtedly puts in ‘a shift,’ but he was torn apart in this game – stood off all the time and gave them free chances to put crosses in. Everyone has been saying it since last season. We need a dedicated LB.
Sadly I think this spells doom for our tenure in the Premiership. I’m angry, sad and frustrated.
I don’t find it overly tasteful to call for someone’s removal or resignation, but as a public figure Mick must know that supporters have the right to do it.
GO NOW MICK.
You didn’t think we played too bad in the first half Ade?!!!!
I knew the Chinese censor the internet but i didn’t realise they’re censoring football matches as well now. Probably just Wolves games so they can give them a PG rating and protect the innocent.
We were total shit from the first second when Edwards actually brought the ball down on his chest(i thought, Aye Aye this looks promising) and then drilled it 30 yards ahead of any Wolves player into touch by the corner flag. Unbefuckinglievable!
I actually counted how many times we had the ball in the first six minutes and the answer was 8, during which we completed a total of ONE pass. THe rest of the time the opposition passed it around like( well like a premiership side) created several chances and should have been two up.
After that it just got worse.
I actually think we have some decent players. We have an excellent keeper. We are short of pace in defence and we need a real left back but if you can’t keep the ball any defence is under continual pressure. I think Berra, for example would be fine in a decent team. He looks ok when he plays for Scotland.
We all know about Fletcher( couldn’t get in the team for ages though could he?) and i still think SEB would score goals under the right manager.
Control, pass, move, control, pass move. That’s how you play decent football and win games. We never have the ball so how are our forwards expected to excell?
We have a few players who are just not good enough, most are short on pace, and the rest are so badly coached(and often played out of position) they end up playing shite as well.
Yesterday we saw that,
Ward, as we have known FOR YEARS, is no left back. In fact now there isn’t one in the squad
O’hara lacks pace and athleticism
Doyle is a forward and nothing else
and Edwards, oh dear. Wonderful runner, possibly school cross country champion, but premiership footballer never in a million years. His feet are so slow, not exactly Messi like.
And the whole team as a unit are poorly selected, organised and coached.
This is not something new. McCarthy has been mismanaging this club a long time now.
I’m beyond caring who takes over as long as it’s somebody else.
It’s the boards responsibility to implement recruitment procedure, take good advice, and make the best decision they can.
We could then at least have some hope at last.
Looks like you got your wish Martin anyway!
I just thought first half wasn’t too bad – as I said, we didn’t threaten, but I didn’t see them as a clear winner – I think hopefully now with better coaching, IF we can get someone in quick enough to make a difference, we can survive. I think our playing staff ARE good enough in total…time will tell!
I was there to witness the culmination of this awful season, as described so well by Clive.
Because of my age I couldn’t help being reminded of former humiliations.
However this one feels the worst and the writings on the wall-has been since QPR beat us so easily at home.
I know my despair is shared by all of you out there. But we know we are alone there’s no one at the clubs board level who truly feels how we do today…That’s the problem they are so removed from reality, it’s just numbers on the paper. What a dreadful state of affairs- Jack must be regretting what he did and at the same time feeling as we do.
Where to next….I dread to think- I can already hear the spin.
I will never step foot into Molineux as long as McCarthy remains manager. Yesterday was the latest humiliation, and most unbearable humiliation, against them lot. So thank you, Mick, Morgan and Moxey for turning our club into the Premier League laughing stock and overseeing our third derby defeat in three weeks.
Where is that arrogant f*ckwit Johnwolf? Who throws around crude insults on various sites whenever anyone dares to criticise “Super Mick” or the 3M’s. I bet we won’t be hearing too much of him over the next few days
We have three choices as far as I can see:
1) Keep the manager and go down
2) Sack the manager, bring in someone who’s out of work on the cheap and hope he can keep us up
3) Use the f*cking fact we are a f*cking big club with f*cking proud f*cking traditions and throw some cash at a young, talented progressive manager to tempt them away from their current role and make a f*cking proper fist of staying in the league and developing the team/club in the long term
Any choice but no 3 will tell you everything you need to know about Morgan and Moxey’s plans for this club
Oh, and one more thing. Whart sort of grown man refers to himself as “Jez”? You’re a middle aged man, your name is in Jeremy, you fat f*ck
The most annoying thing about this was we looked like we could win the game just after half time. If Johnson hadn’t smashed the ball into the air, and consequently into the 6 yard box, instead of letting Hennessey catch it they wouldn’t have scored the second goal and we wouldn’t have gone chasing and then capitulated into shite.
Having said that, the first half was a disaster and we should have been a few goals behind already. When I saw the line up I assumed we’d be going 433. If Mick hadn’t realised before the game that we’d get outnumbered with 2 midfield he should have within 5 minutes but he didn’t change anything until half time. Barmy.
FOMM!
Agreed, at the start of the second half we actually pressured them, got two huge chances in the great long header from Fletch and the one from Johnson(?) that got saved on the line by some defenseman. How Johnson managed such a horrible clearing is beyond me, it was mostly Bassong that was the liability first half. I actually shut the game off after 4-1 so I can’t say anything about the rest. If we had been one up I doubt it would have gone this way at all.
But I wasn’t really sure what I wanted him to do with the team after I saw the first half. I was thinking Berra in for Bassong would be great, and maybe Hammill in for Doyle or SEB as a real winger, but without Kightly, Forde, Guedioura at the bench there really wasn’t much fun to put on.
All this being said, it’s time for a change. I like Mick, during interviews he always seems like a great guy and I am thankful for all he has done for the club, but it’s clearly not working out, and I’m sick of watching the Hennessey to Fletcher passes
Look in the mirror Mick have some pride and quit .Ian holloway any one?
Yeah, i agree ANYONE!!!
Having not come on here to rant immediately, in the cold light of day I would like to ask these questions to normal wolves fans. MM has said the nature of our collapse is why he is apologising. Did he not see the first 20 minutes when we should have been 2 or maybe 3 down? Why purchase a holding midfielder and then not play him? If he is not good enough why buy him? Who in their right mind would play 3 centre forwards at home against a proven counter attacking team with pace? When being over run in the heart of midfield again who would move a centreforward to left midfield and put our winger in the middle? Our best left back(former centre forward) was way out of his depth yesterday, did our leader offer any support in formation to him? Similar question to our right back who was left hopelessly exposed, not by his lack of quality but by the lack of a right midfielder to double up on Thomas. Finally, I believe it is too late now as I am certain I don’t want a Warnock or Bruce style manager down here. The man it should have been offered to has now proven he can turn a bag of shite into a football team, ie Sunderland. I am wolves and forever will be, but it is a sad time to be a fan. I was at Chorley so know it can get a lot worse, but yesterday for me has questioned my sanity in believing in the stewardship of Morgan. Keep the faith. Up the Wolves and at least we haven’t got the cup to worry about!!
All very valid questions.
And of course, failure in all the cups has been in addition to the league.
When we go down if McCarthy were to bring us straight back as Champions, he still wont be getting me back onside, not for this..
At the end of the day a lot of fans will feel this way because that defeat hurt more than any other of McCarthy’s time here..
How on earth is he still in a job this morning, how arrogant are this board..
Why has he just not gone in and cleared his desk like any decent manager would do after such a complete shambles of making my club a complete laughing stock.
The sheer balls of the man is beyond belief.
As for the players… well is Rodger Johnson the only player to get relegated 2 seasons running in different teams??
Apart from the keeper, they should all donate any money earned yesterday to charity, just as they gave the game to charity.
No Pride, No Passion, No meaning, No clue.
A sad, sad day for a great Club..
Hennessey was absolutely dreadful again. His job is to stop balls straight at him and the first two were terrible pieces of keeping. I appreciate he is home grown and young but he is making mistake after mistake, Man City, Sunderland, Liverpool twice, Aston Villa and at least twice yesterday, I think it is time to give De Vries an extended run. I appreciate this will probably be met with abuse but you can’t let keepers off for making some saves but then making these howlers.
Bring back Graham Taylor
Quite honestly, I cannot get my head around the total lack of gratitude from fans on this blog. The 3Ms have turned the club around. Wolves are now an established and settled Premier League side!
Some people on here need to grow up.
a) I realise this may be tongue in cheek, so apologies if missing a joke
b) We’re not established, Stoke are established – we stayed up more by luck than judgement last year and look like going down this year
c) Moxey draws a very high salary, why should I be grateful? He’s paid over £1mm a year and spends a lot of his time insulting the fans/eating
d) There’s a lot of gratitude towards Mick for getting us here, but he’s simply not the man to keep us here
e) Morgan will make a very tidy profit out of that green belt land to build ‘executive housing’ on as part of the training ground development. While at the same time Wolves get relegated, the club is running at a profit
established and settled? mate tell your doctors to give you less of the happy pills, they’re affecting your judgment.
Pick any premier league table from the last 3 years and look for Wolves’ position. (clue – we’ll be in the bottom 5)
Thank fuck for that, thanks Mick, but enough was enough
An excellent article although you need to change this phrase:
“I will forever defend what I consider to be foolish statements thrown around” 😉
MM did a wonderful job for us but essentially, he is time expired. As so many people say, he has taken us to the limit of his capabilities, given his abilities.
It is now time for someone with different abilities, hopefully better.
We can’t complain about the resources on offer. We are one of the best run clubs in the country and are financially secure.
It is essential we keep this and therefore, that means limiting money for transfers and wages.
Consequently, we need a manager able to squeeze the best out of what resources and players are available.
Personally, I would like to see Steve Maclaren in charge (but so many fans are narrow minded and prejudiced against him).
Steve Bruce has the ability to turn the season around quickly and secure safety but I am not convinced he is the right long term solution.
Curbs has to be the obvious contender