I’m more upset about the one than the four.
Yes, it was horrible to see us taken apart at the start of the second half, but Brighton are so good on the ball that any cracks in the resistance will always be exposed.
Gary O’Neil has to work out what exactly went wrong after the break to allow them such easy entry and turn an intriguing game into another bloodbath. They might argue it was always going that way, and they could be right.
Semedo can’t live with Mitoma, we knew that already. But right across that front line, their pace, technique and movement off the ball is on a different planet to anything Wolves can offer.
We got slapped by Chelsea at a similar time in the season under Nuno a few years back but I would say this Brighton team is even better. I’ll be surprised if we see many superior sides visit Molineux this season.
That being said, if Wolves had taken even half of the clear chances they created themselves, we could have easily stayed in the fight.
Fabio and Ait-Nouri were the main culprits today before the game sprinted away from us but plenty of others fluffed their lines when opportunity came knocking.
It’s even more frustrating than last season because some of the pacey, direct build up play is really quite encouraging. Cunha in particular was sensational again, but when he opens up the game, those ahead of him just aren’t cashing in.
Nunes was another to impress with some penetrating runs from deep, but two acts of pure petulance mean he now sits out the next game. How stupid.
The rest of the midfield struggled in and out of possession. Lemina got robbed in bad areas and Gomes was similarly wasteful at times. But again, Brighton are so aggressive and organised in the press, it means possession is always being taken in dangerous positions.
Part of that second half collapse was a result of our midfielders getting caught on the wrong side of the ball and seeing them both strolling back as Brighton made it four isn’t something I’d like to witness again.
Once the damage had been done, I credit the team for keeping on, getting us on the board with a goal and showing we can at least continue to ask a few questions of good teams.
I didn’t get too swept along with the good feeling post Old Trafford – we did lose. But at the same time, I’m not over thinking this one. Brighton are a lot better than us and the result, while unpleasant, can’t be viewed as unexpected.
The next two will tell us more.
Well said Thomas. Just in the pub now saying wouldn’t it be lovely to see a Wolves side play like Brighton. 20 mins first half aside we were swept aside. Two games coming up Everton and Palace. If we fail to achieve at those games the alarm bells will be ringing. Need at least 3 points.
I’m trying hard to maintain perspective but sadly despite selling their two best midfielders Brighton were everything Wolves aspire to be (in the stands anyway). Intelligent, fluid incisive attacking play while we were often laboured selecting the wrong option. Their defence will be exposed by top sides but our defensive frailties, final ball and lack of finishing ability as usual let us down O’Neill talked about XG. The scoreline and individual performances/key moments should tell him all he needs to know. Wolves are turning into a mini Man Utd. Famous history, crumbling stadium (at least half of it) in dire need of investment, a squad nowhere near capable of delivering on expectations. With our managerial managerial merry go round (3 plus Davis in a year) plus our FFP issues and bland unconvincing communication from the club, like Utd every week is becoming another instalment in a second rate soap opera. When Fosun arrived after the initial missteps there was a clear vision of where the club was going. Now? Over to Fosun.
I reckon the lads gave it more than their all on Monday..they looked lethargic.
On to the next one…
That was awful. We again squandered chances in the first half but held on to a goal down at half time. But that second half was dreadful. We were rolled over by a really good Brighton team, but our frailties in midfield and defence were fully exposed. GON has to bring some experienced loan players in. This wasn’t just a bad day at the office. Ask the thousands of fans who left before the end. I didn’t and never will – a few pints will help tonight!
We can point to frailty in defense, and yes, Dawson`s age related limitations were cruelly exposed. An experienced center back is surely essential if we are to survive.
But our defense is not the real problem — Brighton would gave sliced open many a team better than us. It`s an eternity since Raul was seriously injured, and in the years that have followed we have never prioritized the signing of a proven striker — as in a bloke who know how to put the ball in the net with a degree of consistency. In my opinion this represents gross mismanagement of the club.
But on a positive note, we could somehow find someone able to convert excellent approach play into goals. we have enough quality in the side to ensure a decent decent season
Silva is not the answer. He may have scored while out on loan, but the Belgium league is just about our division 1 standard, and the Dutch league only marginally better. The Premier league is a totally different animal , and he is simply not at that level. Surely now is the time to cut our losses and to sell Silva for whatever price we can get, and use the proceeds to sign someone more accomplished.
Mr. Goa was apparently at todays game, so he has been able to see first hand the main issues we face., as well as the huge disappointment of our supporters Hopefully he will now understand that if Fosun does not find some way to provide at least a little financial support, then his massive investment in the club will be seriously threatened.
Something very wrong at the very heart of WWFC and has been for a long time.
No apology for repeating parallels with the catastrophic implosion of the early eighties.
Disinterested owners.
Disinterested players.
Crumbling stadium.
Lack of EFFECTIVE investment.
Revolving door for senior players outbound only.
And now on the verge of losing the goodwill of a very loyal supporter base.
All this single handily achieved by one man.
Good of you to turn up today by the way Jeff.
Heroics at OT on Monday – almost. But one swallow doesn’t make a summer anyway and this squad is simply neither big enough nor good enough collectively.
Jury still out on GON but the Lopetegui fiasco is symptomatic of all that’s wrong in WV1.
Was waiting for the negative tirade. You don’t disappoint.
I see it as I see it CoD, so do you. I don’t comment on your “positivity”. Free speech eh?
Yeah. Fair play. Maybe i am too optimistic. Probably foolish.Anyway PJB. We have one common goal and that is Wolves do well. I know you want that as much as me . But we will have a good chat about stuff on the way !
PJB. For the sake of clarity, do you really mean “disinterested” owners or do you mean uninterested? According to St Kitts, below, Shi was clearly interested.
As for players, I do not see how any player could turn out and be “disinterested”.
Regrettably, I have not been able to get to Molineux since Covid and am disappointed to learn that the stadium is crumbling.
In regard to Jeff Shi, I believe many credit him with greater powers than he actually possesses. I have written before on this site about my belief that Shi
does what he is told to do by his superiors. I agree, however , that he has done little to engage with the fans. Clearly he is not a football man but his employers do not see that as a problem, because neither are they. He is there to oversee income and expenditure. Unfortunately, I agree, that some expenditure has not given a good return . Many clubs have to accept that from time to time , this happens. In the case of Wolves, clearly some poor decisions have been made and presumably, such decisions were informed by professional advice to Shi.
KW
Addressing the finer points of grammar have sought the guidance of Google and it’s a fine line but point taken. Think it could be argued that some players who seem to be be here under sufferance might be uninterested but not disinterested when it comes to remuneration. Whereas our owners who came in promising the earth have I think have become disillusioned (disinterested) with the whole project and would probably cut and run at the first financially viable opportunity.
But I’m afraid their disinterest in terms of a complete lack of hands on involvement is demonstrated by the rare flagship appearance yesterday of Guo who has done very little to stop the incumbent on the ground (yes Jeff) from systematically destroying the house that Nuno was building before he was stopped in his tracks as the foundations were just being completed.
After all the bs. back in the day about Champions League, shiny 50,000 seater stadium etc. we could add another term to the latter part of the Fosun era which they might comprehend in their own culture – PAPER TIGER at least where WWFC is concerned.
Add a quote from the late Ian Dury – “What a Waste”.
Why all of a sudden is the ground crumbling? Never be happy some people
The only positive thing about our loss today is that Brighton are SO GOOD!
Good luck to them.
We need to pull our socks up and hope for results against Palace and Everton.
COYW
Credit to Brighton, they were good but we were very, very bad.
Let’s just hope Sasa stays healthy this season because he is our main goal scoring hope.
Poor old Gary o Neil has only had 10 days so let’s hold jugement. He’s took over a mismanaged club with a unbalanced and under strength squad , again due to mismanagement , and he needs our support. Brighton are a well run club, we are not. There has been debacle after debacle , Zenga, sacking lage with no replacement, rushed buys, appaling treatment of Nuno and now financial Fairplay. It’s ridiculous. Whatever happens Wolves eventually need to closedown and re-tool and come back being run like Brighton , or dare I say it Brentford et al. Fosun are rich but there has been many faults. I hope they are wise enough to learn from mistakes .
Surely no progress can be made until Shi leaves.
He`s a man with limited knowledge of the product– professional football –, yet attempts to run the club as a latter day autocratic Russian Czar. Worse yet, many of his commercial decisions have proven to be seriously flawed.
Quite why Fosun continue to keep him in place is very difficult to understand.
So very disappointing after mondays showing how can a team play so good one day and so bad the next. Well hopefully the owner was their and he might release some funds please.
Maybe you got your answer with Man Utd’s display against Spurs today. Brighton are a fitter, better team with a clear, trusted game plan and some excellent individual players whereas Utd are a bunch of mainly talented individuals who rarely play as a team.
Can’t remember wolves having 2 good games on the bounce ,so this is normal for us, think we’ll start judging after the next 2 games
Positives.
Hwang scored so at least Wolves have managed to find the back of the net on one occasion.
No injuries.
Our Chairman and his boss were there to see the gulf between the two teams currently, so they can be in no doubt of where Wolves could be, and perhaps closer to where we were 4 seasons ago. What difference, if any, that makes remains to be seen.
Negatives.
Too many to list without this becoming a very long comment.
I would make 5 points.
Firstly, with the same players, we can do so much better. Evidence 5 days ago.
Brighton were brilliant.
Until we can convert our chances, teams will be further encouraged to attack us, knowing we can’t punish them.
With no exceptions, Gary O’Neil is the only manager to have had virtually no pre-season with his players.
Finally, despite how we are all feeling, as I’ve said before, things are rarely as bad (or good) as they seem.
UTW
At least one positive; l got the score correct. The negative is it was the wrong way round. Onto next week!!!
Support for GO’N should be there from us all.
BUT with the background of Loptegui’s 9 month reign (a manager who Fosun spent 6 years courting) he must know there is a strong element of “poisoned chalice” involved.
70 goals scored in the last78 PL fixtures points towards a very fundamental problem.
Brighton are a well managed club off the field and very well managed on it. We aren’t.
They have bought players for a pittance and sold them (to Chelsea mostly) for squillions.
We’ve bought players for millions who either haven’t wanted to come or haven’t been worth the money.
They let a good manager and his staff go (to Chelsea with compensation) and brought in an upgrade. We let ours go and paid him off then searched for a cheaper option.
Their passing and movement all over the pitch was precise and rehearsed, only Man City come close to that and don’t be surprised if Brighton stay in the top 4 all season, maybe even doing a Leicester. We made chances and had shots but the lack of quality in the final third was “clear and obvious”.
We are not competitive with the top 10 teams and you can name them now, we are in a mini league at the bottom end and there will be three worse teams.
Whether FFP is a smokescreen or not, the value of our club as a going concern in the Premier League is a valid reason for Fosun to continue supporting it, however a spending limit is a spending limit, we obviously don’t want to be transfer sanctioned, fined or have points deducted.
We got stuffed by a better team. Move on.
I’d agree with a lot of what you have said here BG but I would caution against simply thinking there are three teams worse than us and that will be our salvation. I know a few Leicester fans who thought exactly the same and they could score goals. This Wolves team is not only wasteful I think they themselves don’t really expect to score much of the time. Confidence can drain very quickly and they will be looking around the dressing room in much the same way we look across the squad for solutions and I’m not seeing a lot. Fosun won’t be investing any time soon and there is no way we could trust the incompetent Shi to do anything sensible even if they were. I know we are only two games in and Brighton are a class above us, so let’s see what Everton brings. An adverse result there and the pressure cranks up and given our current backdrop I fear things could turn pretty toxic for us in short order. It sounds ridiculous only 2 games into a new season but this team has to turn in a result quickly as momentum is everything and we don’t want to set the terms of reference for a relegation battle before the fabled ( and frankly load of tosh) mantra of “let’s see where we are ten games in” is spouted once again by the fosun appeasers
A first class summary Sutton. False hopes and over optimism at this early time in the season is hugely dangerous. We need to get much better very quickly or this poor start could quickly spiral out of control. But unlike last season, there will be no ,Lopetegui no come to the rescue.
Tactics wrong today, should have kept it tight, not go gung-ho, glad the owners saw it, going to be a long season , God bless u all, wolves aie we
Gung Ho , what another Korean international.?
My summary of today is ..
Brighton were very clinical and fantastic on the press …
We missed two. clear chances to get level especially the one v one .. and there lies the answer to what, on paper, looks a drubbing .
I’ll credit Brighton immensely for their movement and press , but in Mitoma, Wellbeck and the no 10 (name eludes me) they carried a very dangerous threat … which left our defenders panicking and unable to play out from the back .
The Silva chance could have changed the game but nonetheless credit to Brighton on an impressive display …
Donkey of the day award goes to Nunes, for despite showing some great feet and ball carrying skills his faux pas at the death means he won’t be available for Everton next week .. idiot…
It’s early days of course but I was a bit surprised by O’Neils static response in going 0-4 down ..
The squad looks a tad shallow so let’s hood that we can pull a couple of loan rabbit’s out of the hat .. we need to get a result next week in scouseland ..
Despite the loss I still remain optimistic after two games! Why? Because in these first two games Wolves have entertained me more than anytime over the past two years.
Today, we had several clear chances and several dribbling runs in midfield, that Adama would be proud of! Made me stand up and be thrilled, followed thereafter with a few choice words on the missed chances.
Brighton are a very good team and in 8 short minutes, they gave us a lesson on being clinical, from which I hoped we learned!
The camera panned into Jeff Shi a few times during the game and he struck me as a very worried man! And he should be!
There is still hope, and the Everton game will be a good indication on how our season will progress! I, for one, will be tuning in with anticipation. I don’t give up so easily!
And more entertainment please!!
What I found most terrifying was in the second half when Brighton subbed their front line with arguably and even stronger contingent !
They truly are a “machine”, on and off the pitch. Fair play to them…
Bad enough that we always struggled against them when they used to be pants !
Greetings Crew,
Stuffed in 9 second half minutes. Whatever Gazzbo said at half time, it went down like a Led Zeppelin. The lads had gone to sleep and it was all over. Up until then it was a competitive game with chances for both teams.
We didn’t take ours.
Let’s take some soon for the team confidence and attitude, or we could all get a bit frustrated, like Nunes. Saft lad. That’s no help, and all in a sorry start for the home support.
Bottom of the table and no chips. That VARpocalypse at Mancheater Utd is looking more costly.
Moving on….
1 lv & COYW
FYI
Exactly 10 years ago I was in the away end at PNE in division 3 along with 5000 proper loyal fans. Just adding some perspective.
John the troll strikes again. Did you rip that pic out your wank magTanks for the heads up John, we all missed that….
Not sure what is upsetting to you. I’m just posting a screen shot of some graphic which says we are creating enough chances to score 2 goals a game.
That is different from other years where the chances were not even being created.
But somehow you think I’m trolling.
I think he prefers you when your name was Tim, Tim.
Sorry guys but we will be gone with 6 games of the season to go. Hope I am wrong.
I rarely make comment on here as there are many of you with more history and know how than me.
I am now preparing to watch a very committed and talented team who are on the verge of making history – hope our squad are watching and get some inspiration …. Come on Lionesses Bring it Home ??????????????
Liz, history does not necessarily make wisdom or knowledge. Do reconsider
offering your own views about matters relating to Wolves on this site. Such comments are as valid as any others. Go for it Liz.
First a tactical question.
Mitoma had Semedo on toast the last time we played Brighton. He was like a mini Adama but with an end result. It was quite likely he would do the same again. So why not give him some support down that wing?
Second question.
Why in the name of Doog can we find so many ways to not put the ball in the bloody net?
Although Brighton were by far the better side yesterday, if we had taken our chances, some of which seemed easier to score than miss from, we could have come away with a draw.
On to Everton.
Another Sunday morning finds me wondering why I bother.
I don’t mind losing. I learned the lesson, that “you can’t win ’em all”, a long time ago.
But dismal results like yesterday’s leave me feeling miserable for days.
At my age, with fewer and fewer days left in front of me, do I really want to spend any of them feeling this crap because one-of-eleven men can’t get more balls between two posts and under a bar than another eleven men?
Why do I do it? Why can’t I just walk away?
Help me! Someone!! Please!!!
If someone helps you it’ll help me too. But really there’s nothing you can do. It real, heartfelt support for your team. Ain’t nothing going to change that. FWAW.
I was at PNE 10 years ago. First match away in DIVISION 3 along with 5000 truly loyal fans. That’s what being a Wolves fan is all about.
It would not surprise me if that was Nunes’ last game for Wolves.
He surely knew that he would be sent off and certainly knew that the Everton game would be his last game before the Transfer Window closes.
I have to agree with Thomas concerning this game.
I really wonder what GON said at half time, because, for the next quarter of an hour we were positionally all over the place and the body language was interesting to say the least.
This was a match to take lessons from and then realise we will not play against such a good side often.
My seated neighbour asked me for my thoughts on how the game would go. With ‘closing down’ in mind I said we could well win 5-0 or lose 5-0. So I was nearer than I would wish.
I shall try hard to give it ten games before being judgemental ; why are three out of four of our first games away? Will that help us or not?
I was listening to how the girl’s team would be view after winning the World Cup, a foregone conclusion apparently but, for once, I could not watch it; a case of how I felt in the aftermath of Saturday and how I felt hubris was being displayed. There is nothing wrong with confidence but in any match any result can occur.
The ladies have been magnificent and their time will come.
One turd does not make a sewage farm so no catastrophising here. Brighton were brilliant and we were woeful in a 10 minute capitulation. The next two games will definately show us more as to where we are.
I genuinely hope Brighton do a Leicester and take the league by storm although the corrupt powers that be will do their level best to stop them gatecrashing their exlusive party as with last season against Spurs when the officials robbed them of the points in the hope that would keep them out of Europe and keep Spurs in, unfortunately they didn’t account for Spurs being absolute dog shit for the rest of the season and Brighton prevailed. Good luck to them, they are a great watch.
Anybody for 3 at the back, up against the wrong side Dawson and Kilman get exposed time and again.
I couldn’t agree with you more
It was only a bad 30 minutes in whats otherwise has been an encouraging start
to the season
When we win at Everton next week , everything will look much better
I’m glad the owner and Jeff were there to see how you should run a football club on and off the pitch if the Brighton route is were they want to go.
But at the moment we are only going one way and have been for three years.
And I hear fans saying yeah but it’s only the second game true….. But this downward spiral started 3 years ago and we show no signs of having hit rock bottom yet which is alarming.
A blogger made a point about the stadium I was sat in the Steve Bull stand which is rapidly decaying perhaps our owner could do with spending a few quid at Carvers they have a sale on at the minute I’m being charged more this season for shit facilities and dire performances.
Spot on . The only way we will improve is with new club management/ ownership. Our current struggles are not temporary, prior to improvement at some point in the near future. The fosun/Shi axis is simply onwards and downwards I’m afraid and has been since Shi was put in complete control. Some think Guo’s attendance yesterday will encourage some sort of cash injection . My view is that he is just as likely to have been here to tell Shi that more incoming funds need to be generated. Do not be surprised if we have more outgoings before close of deadline day…….
And yet Jeff Shi made a very public statement confirming next season will again allow flexibility in spending after the FFP cycle moves on. Do you think he would have commited to this without foresight???? Or are you going to subject us to more conspiracy theories ?
Judge their actions not their words. We were told at the start of the transfer window, we were focussing on young and hungry talent in the £5-£15m bracket. Where are they? FFP hasn’t come out of nowhere in that time, neither has the profitability position of the club. It is because, for whatever reason, fosun/Shi have back tracked. We were told of stadium redevelopment, where is it 7-8 years into their ownership? We were told our 10 year plan was to be an established PL force, where are we?
Cheese, if you genuinely believe what comes out of Jeff Shi’s mouth is the truth there is nothing I can really say to help you. Start building your PPG spreadsheet sooner rather than later, you’ll definitely need it again this year
My guess is they want to move the stadium SC so they are biding their time. They are business men, the only thing that truly counts to them is the bottom line.
Can’t see that. Would cost far too much and Molineux isn’t prime real estate as ASDA are already next door.
It would cost less after the sale of land was taken into account. That’s if they didnt develop it themselves with a fosun subsidary. I dont how having an asda already there makes it less valuable, it would just be a focal point for a retail park
The useless Jeff Shi oversaw the signings of : PATRICIO. JONNY. BOLY. SAISS. NEVES. MOUTINHO. JIMINEZ. CAVALEIRO. COSTA. JOTA. TRAORE. NETO. NUNES. APPOINTED NUNO. OUR MOST SUCCESSFUL MANAGER FOR 50 YEARS. Apart from that. Shit.
Nothing to do with Laurie Dalrymple and Kevin Thelwell then COD? Nor dare I even say it Jorge Mendes back in the days when it was mutually beneficial,
So when it’s rubbish it’s Jeff Shi. When it’s good it’s someone else ? Yeah ????
I really believe the same things as you cheese ,although maybe not the custard on the cat stuff as I am more of a dog person
LWL you must be a fan of Goldie off Blue Peter owned by a suspicious looking Simon Groom ?
Cheese, every player you have cited there, apart from Nunes ( and some might reasonably argue whether he should be labelled as a success) were signed under Dalrymple’s tenure. Look at the track record of Shi since he has had total and unfettered control from August 19 onwards in the transfer market
Well yesterday we were watching what was supposed to be our future when the
China ownership took over and promised us the dizzy heights of top 6 football
and Europe champion league ,oh and a new upgrade to a 50,000 capacity stadium
Somehow The Chip Pincher have sneak in and stolen our plan .
Passing , ball control, teamwork and running into spaces was everything we expected to see in a gold shirt at this time in our 10 years Chinese revolution .
A well run team all round, owners ,management , bargain buy players and youngsters moulded into world class players, all done by what was thought as a small time club with hardly any history now mixing it with the top corrupt 6
With wolves it’s always 1 step forward and 3 back are we cursed to never see the great days of the fifties or the finals we made in the seventies and eighties ever again
There is hope we saw it yesterday but they were wearing the wrong shirts
We all feel that disappointment but personally followed the wolves since the late seventies. OK.. me may be on a downturn, but I remember doing seventeen or so years in the championship and some years belowthat league.
We’ve only got to string a couple of results together to be back in that mix but obviously it’s not that easy . At least we are in that position instead of having to dream that we could get promoted and then conjour up a team to press on and then maybe be successful. Things might be sticky at the moment but we are in the Premier league and we have good players. We’ve only played 2 games and for most of that we’ve looked excellent. Brighton are a terrific side and they will batter a lot of teams this season.
These might not be the best of times but they’re not fucking worst
Couldn’t agree more. Fosun have made their comitment clear. Fosun have confirmed flexibility on spending will ease after the end of May 2024. Fosun have given long suffering fans something to cheer. We could have been relegated in 2019 but thanks to investment we are still in the elite league 2023/2024. Unllike 2003/2004 and 2008/2011 when the brief stays were met with relegation.
Could have been relegated in 2019. We finished 7th!!!
Made their commitment clear? Not to the manager they had pursued since D1 back in 2016, who then walked after 9 months. Your charitable (or maybe apologist) support for the Shi and by corporate neglect Fosun is well out of date COD. I think you actually believe what Jeff Shi puts out.
Talking Heads – “Were on the Road to Nowhere”.
D1 = Day 1 not Division 1.
Sixth consecutive season in the premier league is nothing to be sniffed at for a club like Wolves. Don’t forget we had decades in the lower leagues before Fosun. So we started in the top league from scratch. We are up against sides with years of prem finances. Six years top flight is a bloody good achievement.
Cheese, I’m afraid your statement encapsulates the way you think versus the way others with more ambition for our team think. Sandwell Town spent eight consecutive seasons in the Premier between 2010 and 2018 with less money spent but a shrewd owner in Jeremy Peace. No one can argue with the overall financial commitment of Fosun over the last 7-8 years, my argument is around the incompetence of how we are run and the consistently wrong decisions they take in the transfer market and the highly dubious recruitment model they operate. They are not achieving for us, they are significantly under achieving.
A PL club without anyone at the top who has any knowledge of football, all overseen by Shi backed up by his yes men, notably Sellars and Hobbs, over the last 3 years, and successive managerial disasters with Lage and Lopeteguie – the former being clueless and then “the chosen one” being cut loose after just 9 months.
Welcome to the circus in WV1.
COD
You constantly bang on about Fosun’s 6 seasons in the PL.
To maintain some perspective we had 3 with Mick McCarthy on a shoestring budget under Bob the Builder and at least he (Morgan) spent some money on the stadium and Compton. Now, like London Bridge in the nursery rhyme, Molineux is a again falling down as it did in the 80’s.
Let’see where Fosun actually leave us. Their promises are proving to be as hollow as those of as a crooked politician or pyramid investment pedlar. Their 10 year plan of comprehensive infrastructure upgrade and European glory on the field is in tatters. Welcome to the world of Walter Mitty.
Or was it just a con from day 1?
Yeah I believe when Jeff Shi issues a statement saying Wolves will be able to spend again after 2024 due to FFP. I believe him. Just like I believed in Fosun when they spent £170 million on incoming transfers in 2023. Which you obviously conveniently forget about.
Why be downbeat 2 of the best positive performances I’ve seen from Wolves in a long time. Yes we need to improve but we have the basis of a great team. Nunes needs to be sold to fund 2 or 3 more solid committed players in the Lemina mode. 2 Defenders and a striker that links well with Silva and Cunha. Nunes is a good player but never going to dig in as proved Saturday. Cunha is our star player who unlocks defences we don’t need 2. Come on Wolves get the pack mentality back.
Nunes at the moment typically looks like he plays for t0day’s Chelsea team. Cost a bomb. Gives a penalty or gets a red card. I wonder if Liverpool are interested in him?
Oh yes DWW. I think he will soon be gone. He has never looked as though he
wanted to be a Wolves man. A talented player who has shown glimpses of his skills. But I feel coming to Wolves is just a stepping stone to move on to greater things . No doubt orchestrated with his agent. Liverpool I reckon.
I suspect he deliberately got himself that second yellow.
Exactly Thomas, the next two will tell us more. The last three games tell me that Brighton were the best team in that trio we faced. We may have NULL points on the board now but at times we’re playing a hell of a lot better than this time last season.
Pound for pound, history, fan base, revenue, all things considered, Brighton are in my opinion the best team in the PL, and in Tony Bloom they have the shrewdest owner of the lot. They are a shining example of what clubs of our size (!) can do to counteract the sovereign -wealth clubs. Sharpen up FFP penalties, crack down on VAR bias and you will have a better chance of a level playing field.
I note that our owner was here for the match. That would usually facilitate a post-match meeting with the opposing owner if he were present too. I’d love to be a fly in the wall in that meeting! Our owner was also here before the January window, and we spent big then. I know we have FFP to comply with but we could spend now and try to comply in January. We have until May year-end to cook the books!
So Arsenal get a penalty for very minimum contact. But we don’t get one at Man Utd when the goalie takes our blokes head off. Fuck sake.
Hi Cheese,
I noticed that pen for the Vile, where, rightly or wrongly, Mr Pickford attempted to floor / decapitate Ollie Watkins with a flying ‘haymaker’. Naturally an instant penalty, though in fact very little contact.
Should have gone with both fists and made proper contact, like Onana, to see how it’s done with no sanction. 1 lv.
Yeah Rasta mate. I also noticed that. Funny how other clubs always seem to get them. I’ve lost count of the number of times we are screwed over. I was talking to a mate who is a Liverpool fan ( yeah. I know) last night i the pub and even he said he can’t believe how Wolves never get decisions. Even Nunes getting sent off Saturdays. If that’s Fernandes it’s a strong taliking to. Unbelievable.
I’m a strong believer in neutral-country VAR sites. PL matches should have VAR officials abroad. The technology is there. Conversely VAR at Stockley Park could officiate matches abroad. When the usual biased refs retire from running around during matches they become VAR refs, with the same beliefs and favourites. Time to shake things up.
Match of the Day could add features like Dive of the Month and VAR Horror of the Month, to be voted on by viewers. Might wake people up a bit. Apologies from Howard Webb are useless unless they come with points in compensation.
That’s a good idea DWW, as was the one I think Lord Twix posted the other day about the captain having one right of appeal against any var decision to make the ref go and view the monitor. However, the actions from the PGMOL and the PL tell you everything you need to know. They bullshit everyone with warm words but what have they materially changed other than Howard Webb fronting up a bit more? No in stadium explanation or live feed from stockley park to ref , no post game interview with refs etc. They don’t want to change because it will undermine their ability to manipulate results. Any good business listens to its customers, the noise about var is deafening from supporters but in reality the PL and PGMOL don’t give a toss. Sadly, the game we all love has long gone. I’ve been a season ticket holder since 1974 and I can say without hesitation I’ve never been more disillusioned with the integrity of Wolves and the game of football in general.
Interestingly enough, I was thinking of both those suggestions over the weekend, an appeal per incident and overseas officials! Would make VAR a lot less controversial!
Agree with all re neutral non UK officials 100%, but the only reservation has to be that brown paper envelopes can still be filled with the currency of the recipient’s choice. But it would still be a big step forward.
I thought that the standard of refereeing in the women’s world cup was better than the shit we get in the Premier league. I absolutely hate VAR but even that was better. Can’t we have them lot doing it ?
Good point. Maybe female referees will command more respect from players and fans?
In other news I just checked opening hours for the Chelsea Megastore (a friend abroad wants a Chelsea shirt). Some of the questions asked on the website are interesting! I’ve attached an image.
Interesting article today showing why Chelsea got away with spending nearly a billion quid on transfers this year, without falling foul of FFP. The reason is signing players on 6/7/8 year contracts and amortising the spend over the relevant number of years.
Memo to Jeff: There’s still time in the current window and the January window to pull off the same stunt. The downside is that Chelsea (or us if we try it) could be stuck with dud players on contracts lasting up to eight years. The PL is due to change the rules from next season. Here is the link:
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/other/why-chelsea-and-todd-boehly-have-steered-clear-of-breaking-premier-league-ffp-rules-so-far/ar-AA1fioA4?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=14b584d558e144daa8d2f45f43cbbc59&ei=31
Problem is, you get left at the end of the contract with a player who can’t play anymore who nobody wants at those wages.
Only problem there DWW is that under Shi Plan over the last 3 ears we could have had Mathiesson, Silva, Cuitrone, Jordao, Willian Jose, Collins, Semedo, Trincao, Hoever, Guedes and I’m sure several more eminently forgettable but nonetheless expensive (Grasshopppers???) flops tied down on long long term contracts stretching into never never land.
I fear that the FFP cover story however may be Fosun’s rationale for the current fire sale prior to some sort of cut and run exit strategy. Speculation yes, but can it be ruled out? As has been pointed out by many FFP is being manipulated and / or ignored by virtually every other club in the PL.
It’s clear that Fosun have lost interest in sensibly financing Wolverhampton Wanderers either on the pitch or in terms of long term infrastructure. 50,000 capacity new stadium, yeah sure. And even the one we have is starting to fall down.
It’s not falling down, it needs a couple of coats of paint. Preferably Old Gold, not canary yellow.
And a couple or three players that want to be here.
You may yet get your wish- Nunes to City for £50m- but dont hold your breath.
PJB. In regard to your second paragraph, I have to admit that I have shared that speculative fear . If Fosun were preparing to cut and run then cashing in on their most valuable assets would be to their great advantage. Using FFP as a reason , for failing to strengthen I agree is ominous.
We shall see their true colours when the cash arrives from the sale of Nunes to either City or Liverpool which it surely will.
I have suggested above that Nunes will leave. He knew what he was doing against Fulham in the dying minutes. He has used Wolves as a “stepping stone” to move to a bigger club. Such practice is a fact of football life but that does not prevent me from detesting it , which lines the pockets of agents, players and owners. In the case of Nunes, we have only seen glimpses of his true talent andin my view, he has never looked happy to be at Wolves. I only want to see players who want to be at Molineux. No doubt he will be seen kissing another clubs shirt badge soon.
Perhaps somewhat naively, I admired the attitude of Gomez, a young man who was determined to honour his agreement with Wolves. But then that too might have been about moving onwards and upwards. In the meantime I feel he has great potential with us.
I am sure my views are informed by my experience of following Wolves since 1950. There were eleven first team players and eleven reserves and a youth squad. It was a domestic market and sometimes we had the excitement of the occasional transfer.
It was a different world then.
would be to use their failure to strengthen the squad
Delete last line!
I don’t think the prospective buyers will ignore the club assets such as players and cans of paint when they make their offer.
If Nunes goes we are in real trouble….why not only will we miss Nunes the player but the effect IIT will have on the rest of the squad will be devastating and also the price.
Even if we get £50 or £60 million how much of that will be given to O’ Neil.
We are now officially the ” new Southampton ” of the Premier League.
Thanks FOSUN.
The main rumours now are wolves to an american buyer and as they wouldnt meet fosuns ludicrous 400m valuation fosun are selling the assests to fill the gap in valuation nunes to city semedo to man u next up then possibly cuhna gone as well .
not a penny spent on the ground not even a coat of paint the boss over from china players on their bikes outa here smells awful wrong to me .
personaly i pray they sell up you cant trust them as far as you could throw them imo.
You’ve got a lot running around in your head.
perhaps you should read other sites a bit more
Just a thought from the left field; when Jeff said Fosun were not going to sell the club, was it because they were planning to sell as many assets as they could, before going into Administration!
Dont think so beo as that would trash any value the club had left much more likely the ffp smoke and mirrors statements are to cover up a sale of any decent assests to reduce debt before a sale with the new owners having to pick up the tab for re investment to get back on track.
It may all be a load of cobblers but look at all the pointers that have cropped up re- no investment on players or the ground and it smells a bit stinky to me but then again so did my kitchen this morning because we had fish last night.
At least i can light a few of those nice candles to get rid of the smell fosun cant .
Next, people will complain if we get a bid of more than we paid for him for Fabio, even though many have been saying we should sell him and cut our losses.
You can’t win with fans.
I wish id have put one on last night when i was cooking that fish !
Wake up John and smell the coffee John….Fosun are not in the faintest interested in Wolves anymore ….if they ever really was.
They have lost all interest a blind man could see that.
Yeah, I could tell they had absolutely no interest when I saw what the chairman was wearing.
Although I don’t know what you comment has to do with mine.
Many of you said earlier in preseason that we should sell Fabio and Nelson and Matheus and what a mistake it was buying them. Minimize their losses because they are no good.
Now you want Wolves to keep them at all cost.
True that was because we were expecting new signing but since Fosun have cut us off at the balls then we need them….. as much as I hate to admit it even then if we survive it will be a miracle.
Think they have probably done ok from The Magic Roundabout through Wolves (80% owned) Grasshoppers (“associate”), Gestitute (25 % owned), Banco di Portugal (23%? owned).
Nice work if you can get it.
Maybe the rollover has run out of steam.
Right .. this is my Nunes MUST STAY post ..
Why on earth are we even contemplating selling Nunes ..
Brighton had the right idea to completely reject Ceicedos’ move.
Ok it’s eventually happened but Brighton kept him for a season before buckling under a £115 million deal .. we should copy that protocol ..
F@@k off sheik whatever your name is .. Nunes isn’t for sale .. only deals that should be made are ones where we’ve signed a replacement…
If you nause this up Jeff .. I’m out ..
To late Lord Twix I am afraid.
His head has been turned.
Guardiola has said he is one, if not the, best player in the world.
It would be a very unusual personality who , after this attention from City, would get his head down and give his all to Wolves.
It would be great if he did, but past experience , especially when players have said they wish to leave, suggests it will be a mistake to require him to remain.
No one , I imagine, wants a player who does not want to be at the club, like Guedes , for example.
After all of that, I hope , as you do, he stays and digs in. Now that he is beginning to show glimpses of his potential, we need him.
His head has certainly been turned KendalW.. I read he’s already agreed personal terms .. which is odd considering we’ve not given any permission to talk to other clubs .. etc … etc..
I regrettably confess that todays PL world has taken the glamour out of football.. there’s never a game at 3pm on. Sat .. fans get shunted to watch football at 8pm on. Monday 200 miles away ..even tv schedules are manipulated so as to maximise revenue from subscribers.. and I haven’t got onto the BIG 6 or VAR .. OH I forgot the corruptness of FFP or whatever it’s now termed ..
Teams are now owned by countries not ‘one love’ chairmen .. every Sid us bending the rules or looking for loopholes .. the authorities are playing catch up with the cheats ..
But Twix. The bloke who tweeted Nunes has ‘agreed personal terms’ Fabrizio Ramano was also the same bloke who tweeted a few weeks back that Alex Scott was a done deal had agreed terms and was on his way for a medical! You might as well ask Next Door Neighbours Cat !! Perhaps NDNC should take over from Jeff.
Agree Kw. Don’t think his head needed much turning though.
Both he and Guedes were “placed” with us a short term stopover by Mendes and both have made it abundantly clear from day 1 that they didn’t want to be here. Meanwhile their joint transfer fees of £ 70 million + have clearly been largely responsible for our current alleged compromised position with FFP.
After the initial hugely successful influx of Jorge’s Portuguese we are now stuck with a batch of Gestitute clients who show little or no affiliation to us or our club. Silva, Semedo, Neto, Guedes, Nunes, Sa and co couldn’t be a greater contrast to Neves, Cav, Costa and Nuno himself. Unlike Ruben Neves or Joao Moutinho did on their departure I doubt whether one of them would declare themselves “forever a wolf” nor if honest would even wish to.
I shall be surprised if Nunes is still a Wolves player this time next week and tbh not sure I really want him to be.
Suggestion to Jeff – give Laurie Dalrymple a call and ask him how it’s done.
Don’t worry. Jeremy Peace/Trev The Shed have submitted a takeover bid.
If Nunes is worth 60m, we got dudded selling Neves for 47m.
Nunes has 4 years left to run on his contract; Ruben had one year left.
Remember, we got nowt for Traore? Their value doen’t just rely just on how good they are with a football.
In regard to the Nunes situation, I am becoming increasingly irritated by
the frequent reporting that City “will walk away” , and “will not be held to hostage”, if the price a club seeks for a player does not meet with their evaluation.
Surely that is the same for for any potential buying club.
There is too much reverence paid to City by TV journalists.
Exactly. Let them walk away, but they won’t if they want Nunes. In my business I buy and sell things. Nobody walks if they want something, it’s just a bluff by Man City toadies.
If Nunes is really rated one of the best players in the world by Pep, I suggest Wolves slap £100mil price on him. That will sort the men from the boys.