It’s been a while since we’ve had to familiarise ourselves with the bottom of the league table.
Alas, with mismanagement and a lack of football nous within Wolves’ inner sanctum beginning to take root, we are where we are on merit.
Tonight’s performance was much improved against this season’s standout side (thus far), but the result was the same.
Toothless in attack and porous at the back isn’t quite as jolly a jingle as the original ‘Nuno had a dream’ lyrics, and yet it’s a fitting summation of our squad in its current state.
The long overdue return to five at the back meant we were a tougher nut for Arsenal to crack and did enough to suggest that a step backwards might be necessary to alter our immediate fortune.
Credit must go to Toti, who once again proved himself to be a more than dependable stand-in. He can certainly count himself unlucky to be hooked in the second half when his altogether more hapless counterparts remained in place.
Also bringing positivity to this evening’s proceedings were Hugo Bueno and Boubacar Traore, both of whom remained busy while some of their more expensive teammates (such as the laughably lethargic Guedes) did the exact opposite.
In fairness to Guedes, he was our most likely route to goal all evening and arguably should have been awarded a penalty in the first-half.
But, when you’re fighting for your life at the foot of the table, you cannot afford any passengers. And his total lack of a work ethic suggests that, in our current predicament, that is all he’ll ever be for us.
That being said, he was far from the most hapless Portuguese donning old gold tonight. That honour would once again go to Nelson Semedo who, despite the bizarre adoration bestowed upon him by corners of the Wolves Twitterati, continues to prove himself to be a total defensive liability.
There can be no denying that he and Collins are a major issue for us at the moment, such was the ease with which the Gunners carved open our right-hand side in the build-up to their first goal.
The decisive second wasn’t any easier on the eye, with our once watertight defence again showing itself up to be a porous imitation of its former self.
Incoming manager Julen Lopetegui will now know the size of the task on his hands when he begins work on Monday, with his stony grimace at full-time suggesting that he might be imploring his new paymasters to open their wallets come January.
His arrival certainly gives us hope, but it’s going to take a stark improvement on current proceedings to get us out of this pickle.
On the bright side seeing London Wolves Loyal and his family was the highlight of our evening.
Warmest regards to everyone signed Really pissed off.
Cheers to you and yours too Wit ! thanks for the warm welcome.. our little lad enjoyed the entire experience but not so much the result .. never mind tho .. i shall take him again when JL starts fixing things … Nice to see Bromo too
UTW
If there’s one thing I hate above Arsenal, it’s Arsenal fans.
If there’s one thing I hate above Arsenal fans it’s VAR – particularly with a certain Mr Dean in charge.
I’m not into conspiracy theories.
They’re usually propounded by people who think that vaccines have microchips in which prove that Donald Trump is Putin’s love child, nobody landed on the moon and if you travel past soundwell you’ll fall off the edge of the World.
Maybe they’ve got a point.
But how we didn’t get awarded a penalty, when the score was 0-0 last night has got me seriously reconsidering.
Even after the convoluted explanation about offside, not offside, therefore you don’t count the obvious foul, I’m totally baffled.
Everybody else in the known Universe recognise it was a CLEAR penalty.
It may have had no effect on the result, but we would have gone into half time having held Arsenal reasonably comfortably and ONE GOAL UP.
A much improved performance though by everyone.
The other thing that really annoys me is droves of supporters leaving seven minutes before the end when we were still in the game and giving it everything.
Given the effort they put in, I think the team deserved a full stadium to recognise the fact at the end,
The linesman 3/4 yards behind the play flagged. Clearly a mistake possibly to cover his own ineptitude. The referee gave the offside so the penalty (which clearly it was and a red card) did not come into the equation. VAR does not have a say in offside unless a goal results. A number of other questionable decisions by the ref but it is one of the so called big clubs and everybody knows VAR was brought in to protect the elite. 1-0 up and Arsenal down to 10 men could have made all the difference.
Defeat wasn’t entirely unexpected was it?
Why is it that whenever Wolves have something contentious like last night’s rejected penalty, Mike Dean is involved? Every time that man’s name is mentioned my heart sinks like a stone.
I just hope that the usual declaration, that the team at the bottom of the Premier League at Christmas invariably goes down, can be averted by J-Lo.
We’re not going to be able to do it without him.
Everton next on Boxing Day… let’s hope our beloved Conor Coady feels sorry for us and bangs in a couple of own goals to help us on our way. 🙂
COYW
He won’t get the chance I’m afraid.
As he is on loan, he can’t play against us.
But he could nobble their half time oranges.
Of course… shucks… but he could work wonders by popping into our dressing room and giving our back five a half time pep talk… AND nobble their oranges. :-))
The penalty that wasn’t :-
This was NOT one of those contentious decisions. This was a clear error. A travesty. And it won’t get any publicity because no one expected anything other than an Arsenal win.
Debate whether or not Arsenal should have been down to 10 men by all means.
What is absolutely NOT up for debate is this should have been given as a penalty. No question.
Had the referee not awarded it, VAR could and should have intervened.
It was NOT offside in the immediate lead up.
It WAS a foul in the penalty area.
Game changer. Penalty. Neves scores.
1-0 – perhaps against 10 men – probable 3 points.
When luck isn’t going your way ….
I’m not screaming corruption. Just inconsistency, incompetence and perhaps bias.
That aside, the break has come at a perfect time for us. We will be a different proposition come December- I’ve no doubt.
UTW
Agree entirely.
RE ‘perhaps bias’ – It was interesting that early in the game two ‘professional fouls’ by Arsenal players got a slight finger wag from SA. The first one from us got an immediate yellow card – and, to his credit, some polite but firm questions from Ruben N.
Like the DOOGooder, I am not a fan of conspiracy theories – but I do believe there is such a thing as unconscious bias, possibly originating in the idea of the sacrosanct top six – a concept which seems to be rather in question so far this season, the question being underlined by the Carabao Cup with Charlton now the sole survivors from our capital city.
COYW and COJL – let’s see what you can do 🙂
One man is responsible for where we are now, Jeff Shi his dictatorship has lead to the almighty mess we are in. His lack of foresight his lack of experience the fact he got rid of people like Therwell Daryl the managing director there appears to be no one he listens to he makes all the decisions there fore he has to expect the blame.
And until there is a change at the top in both personnel and direction I cannot see us getting out of the mess.
Years of under investment managers that were not trusted or backed Nuno in particular then they back Bruno at the eleventh hour and then sack him.
Since Fosun took over one man has run the club who had no experience of running a football club would Fosun do the same with any of there other business’s I very much doubt it.
We have ignored the British market for years to expensive according to Jeff only Collins being the exception we have assembled a squad devoid of figh, back bone or experince of a relegation battle and what does Jeff do he goes for a manager who has turned us done twice with no experience of a relegation battle never mind the Premier League.
I am beyond shocked……anymore.
Couldn’t agree more.
To go from having a team in with a serious chance of winning the Europa Cup to being anchored at the foot of the table in the 2/3 years since he took sole charge is some “achievement”.
The crash can be traced directly back to the departure of Laurie Dalrymple. Our loss was Harlequins gain.
Lopetegui has an impressive cv and best of luck to him with enormity of the task he faces at wolves. Unfortunately, the PL has humbled many a manager with previously strong track records and until the fundamental root cause of why we are in such a mess is addressed I fear the cards are stacked against him. Here’s why…….our BEST EVER season in the pl saw us record 59 points from 38 games, in other words just over 1.5 points per game. We have 23 games left and so even if from day one of Lopetegui’s management of the team , he took this shambles by the scruff of the neck and hit the ground running with historic form we would only be on course to get to 44 points. Consensus is generally that you need minimum 38 points to stop up. So even with record breaking form we have a margin of error of 6 points for the rest of the season. Unfortunately due to the complete incompetence of Shi and Sellars and their inability to solve the glaring deficiency of a lack of a striker for ,over 2.5 years, the very earliest this problem can be fixed will in reality be after the Everton and Man Utd festive fixtures worth, you guessed it, 6 points. And even this relies on us finding an effective scoring talent who hits the ground running immediately and is in situ fromJanuary 1st to subsequently solve our goal drought. Many will be fooled that “we are only 4points from safety currently “ . We, I am afraid to say, are, in the context of our PL history, needing a near miracle to survive. In any other business, the senior hierarchy of this club would have been sacked long before this point for complete and utter dereliction of duty.
Spot on right in all aspects Sutton Coldfield. We are in for a major fight to save ourselves, with the odds stacked heavily against. But even if we do manage the seemingly impossible, from the longer term viewpoint, real prospects of continuing success, MUST hinge on key changes in the Boardroom.
Shi as a leader of a sizable business is grossly incompetent. Worse is the fact that he has no real knowledge of the business he`s running. Meanwhile his main henchman, Sellars, appears to have no understanding either of individual player quality or the essential need to have a balanced squad. A disastrous combination ! Neither of these clowns should have any further input into the running of this club.
We can only hope that when negotiating his terms, our new coach insisted that he be given adequate funds in January to add quality to our bereft squad, and also that he has the final say as to the identity of incoming players. But even if he has done this, he will likely have to contend with Shi`s usual tactic of deliberate delay, so that newcomers will arrive late in the transfer window — if at all. A leopard cannot change its spots
Why not sell up then? See what we get? Could be worse. Could be better . Fosun have secured 5 consecutive seasons in the top flight. May be a bit of credit is due .
I have found many persons are quite diplomatic when it comes to THAT penalty! I will call it like how I saw it. They cheated! Plain and simple! They cheated. Again!
It seems that often when we play the “big six” there is always a contentious VAR decision. Against us!
Yes, they cheated! Again!
Well the new manager has a monumental task. Yes, there were a few individual positives, but without a more solid defensive posture, we will continue to struggle. Do our defensive resources have the capability to play better? The failure to award the penalty was ridiculous, but without an in-form striker we cannot realistically hope to climb out of the relegation zone. Costa, Hwang or Guedes won’t rescue us. A revitalised Raul would be great, but probably a long shot. Unless Fosun invest in a striker in the window, I fear nothing the manager does will be enough.
The points needed to get us free of the dreaded drop are not impossible to get but, if Fosun gets it wrong this window having mismanaged our great club so badly in recent years, our potential fall from the top flight will sadly become the stuff of football legend. Hoping the New Year brings a fresh start. UTW.
From having watched the videos on the Wolves website showing Lopetegui arriving at the club, he certainly looks like he has something special about him.
I still feel very nervous about the second half of the season and our chances of avoiding relegation, but less so now he has the job.
It’s going to be tough and I think we’ll have to have signings in January especially a striker, but if we can stay up we could have a real gem of a manager here.
I like VAR in principle and I don’t necessarily believe that it conspires against lesser clubs.
But it will obviously disadvantage clubs like Wolves and guarantee “big six” supremacy purely based upon the law of averages.
Better teams will enjoy more action in the attacking third and so by definition, more decisions will go in their favour over time, than against.
Ergo, it helps to underpin their more expensively assembled squads and thereby limits the opportunity for freak results like Brentford yesterday.
You’re right Hertford VAR is an excellent tool in principle and your overall point is also valid. However, having seen some of the interpretations given against us over the years I find it difficult not to believe that bias doesn’t enter the equation on occasion.
But having rerun the MOTD footage several times can’t see that last night’s incident was anything but correct – when the ball was played through Guedes was offside so any subsequent penalty claim was null and void; additionally the flag was raised immediately. BBC commentator called it straight away.
Come on folks we are all biased but let’s try and display some objectivity.
I must confess PJB that my initial reaction was “that’s offside” and I’ve only see a couple of stills; neither of which convinced me either way.
Naturally, we will always remember those that hurt us more readily than those that benefit us and one never more so than the encroachment into the box when Raul was taking his penalty against Seville.
Hopefully, JL can make reparations now for that one.
Not that the decision itself was his doing and I believe that we would have lost that match, regardless.
But yes, objectivity is a must, I’m afraid.
Hiya PJB … a point to note is that Guedes was behind the ball when Traore passed it into the middle .. and therefore NOT offside..
Sky sports confirm it and the pundits all agree that it was a penalty…
The real issue is why Mike Dean took 1 nanosecond to dismiss it … pathetic
Mike Dean is corrupt, like most who sit at Stockley park.that’s the reason why.
Guedes was quite clearly NOT offside. Read the rules.
He was behind the ball when it was played to him.
The line of where the pitch had been cut showed it clearly.
All the Sky pundits agreed.
Alan Shearer agreed.
What did you see that they, and I, didn’t.
Trouble is those blokes who designed a horse wearing blindfolds also invented the VAR rules and we have exactly the same result. An effing camel!
Taken from the E&S regarding Coady playing against us on boxing day
Liam reported at the time that the terms of the loan agreement prevent Coady from playing against us in either game this season. One tiny thing the club got right. A bit like remembering to put the cat out before burning down your own house.
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Loan signing can’t play against their parent club so that rules Coady out Boxing Day, but the knowing the incompetent people running the club, they will probably take the money in the January transfer window allowing him to play in the return at the Mol.
Another cock up by var it was definitely a penalty but its the people who run var. Mike Dean is bloody useless he wasn’t that good as a ref and it seems to of got worse on var. That penalty decision change the whole game Wolves had a chance of at least a point till that happened get people in who what there doing.
I have read these posts with interest. I must declare at the outset that I am an Arsenal season ticket holder so I will try to introduce an element of perspective to my comments. There is no question we were fortunate not to concede a penalty, although I did not consider it was a sending off offence. Saliba did not cynically scythe down Guedes but he was late and I was surprised we got away with it. A marginal offside call got us out of jail. I would still have backed us to win but it would have given the home team and supporters a big lift. Sadly, we have been the victim of a few egregious miscarriages of justice over the years but these things tend to even themselves out over a season.
The wider issue, as various people have alluded, is the management of the club and the ability to maximise your resources. I recall watching Wolves first game at the Emirates where you dominated us, scored an excellent goal by Cavaleiro, and looked a team on the up. You should have won but we scraped a draw with a late equaliser and even then were lucky to survive a superb cameo from Gibbs-White who crashed the ball off our bar in stoppage time. I don’t know why he left Wolves but you have a mishmash of players now, some very promising, others past their best and yet more not quite at the right level. Aside from Neves, you are short of real quality where it matters and this needs to be urgently addressed.
I think Neto is a very talented boy, albeit injury prone, and I like the look of Bueno but you are carrying too many passengers. I suspect that Lopetgui will bring in one or two recruits in Jan who understand his playing style and principles. It is to your advantage that the new manager will have the month ahead to focus on the squad as a whole and I very much hope you can pull clear of the relegation zone. A little confidence can work wonders on and off the pitch. Keep the faith. Life is often about managing expectations and I anticipate you will recover and we will not win the title. Wolves have been a big asset to the Premiership this far so I hope you make the cut and I can attend this fixture at Molineux next season!
Agree with a lot of that Howard.
Arsenal on the other hand are a breath of fresh air.
Youth given a chance and responding appropriately. We’ve a lot to sort out and hopefully we will and stay up but its a monumental ask.
Hi Howard. Thank you for taking the time to write such an articulate and well balanced piece.
A very interesting read.
UTW
My thanks too, Howard, for your views to put some things into perspective.
It’s a very emotive thing, supporting a team, especially ours that has done a lot of upping and downing in its chequered past, but we are still here…
I do think there is an element of jealousy amongst fans that don’t support Arsenal, because of the Gunners’ ability to have stayed, forever, in the top flight.
This is obviously due to great club management from the top and the ability to quickly make the correct timely changes necessary to keep the team fresh and capable.
I applaud Arsenal for that.
Two main differences of opinion regarding the penalty that wasn’t.
You were surprised you got away with it. Many Wolves fans were not surprised.
You say these things even themselves out over a season. We know, from bitter experience, they don’t.
Always good to hear perspectives from opposition fans so thanks for taking the time.
Enjoy beating Citeh to the title.
It’s hard to escape the feeling that we’re doomed. It was better last night but we never really looked like scoring, which we all know is the main problem. Everton on Boxing Day becomes huge. Games against Villa and West Ham will also likely go a long way to deciding our immediate future.
JL isn’t a magician. He might be able to get us more organised but the game’s not difficult, we need someone who can stick it in the net. We haven’t got that at the moment and it’s the reason we’re heading down. Transfer strategy must also be questioned. Too many flimsy Portuguese/Spanish players have arrived when what we needed was quality and nous. Sure they look great on the YouTube highlights reel but when it comes to it they haven’t got what it takes to make it in the Prem. For Trincao last season, read Guedes this.
Fair play to him for getting into a few decent attacking positions but that’s his job. As Ben pointed out he looked lazy and disinterested off the ball. We can’t afford any passengers.
You have to feel for Neves. He must look around him and wonder what’s happened. Someone who gives his heart and soul every week. For the greatest Wolves player in a generation or more it would be desperately sad to see his time here end in relegation. But it’s looking that way and we have no one to blame but ourselves.
Some years ago during the reign of MM we had a central defended by the name of Neil Collins. At best he appeared a world beater. A real rock. But he suffered from an endless trait of making major costly errors. He was always a disaster waiting to happen.
Unfortunately the current Collins is of the same ilk. A disaster in prospect. But let`s keep in mind his recent history. For the major part of last season Nathan Collins failed to get into Burnley`s team, even though they were struggling mightily. But then, when his club had been relegated, Sellars /Shi decided in their joint wisdom that he`s a world beater, and lammed out twenty mill to sign him, while at the same time virtually giving away proven talent such as Coady and Saiis. How can there be any logic in that ?
Now we are trying to build a defense around a seriously flawed player ! On the evidence of yesterday`s game Gomez appeared by far our most accomplished central defender. Nothing fancy but very solid and uncomplicated.
Questions must also be asked about Kilman. In the absence of Coady to give guidance and encouragement during a game he appears very uncertain and inconsistent.
What surely is essential is the need to sign an experienced central defender of proven quality, without whom we will likely continue to ship in goals. Neither Collins nor Kilman is the man for this key position.
There`s can be no point is signing a great striker to rectify our lack of penetration at one end of the pitch, if we don`t solve the major problem at the other end.
All good stuff mike. I compared the two Collinses early season and have seen little to change my mind. The striker shambles has also been there for all to see for well over 2 years except Shi and Sellars until they hit the panic button in August – and look where that’s taken us. And to allow Lage to dismantle most of the rest of Nuno’s best (including Captain Coady) just before sacking him was incredible stupidly.
I can only assume that Lopetegui has extracted assurances for more investment in January to plug the requisite gaps, unless he has tacitly accepted that his first real task will be to emulate Nuno’s first time promotion from The Championship, which he may have already done.
Good luck JL, it’s a big ask either way.
Can’t disagree with any of that mate.
We played five at the back yesterday.
I wonder who would have fitted in nicely there?
Less said about last night the better!
How many of our players are off to the World Cup? How many of our squad will Lopetegui have for this mini ‘pre-season’?
It’s going to be interesting to see what kind of role Fran Garagarza is going to play. Looks like Jeff Shi has recognised his own shortcomings and is going to get some help. Not that many on here will give him credit for that.
Given that Shi’s arrogance and incompetence has took us to the bottom of the league no-one is gonna give him credit for shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted. Even if he has landed his man.
“Given [ . . . . . . .] Shi’s arrogance and incompetence”?
You make pretty damning judgements about someone you don’t know.
Fair enough . . . . . . Happy Claptrap, you’re a twat!
When you’ve finished giving Shi a blow job come back and talk to me, I understand you have a limited vocabulary with a mouthful of cock Roget. When you’ve finished him off we can have a proper intelligent conversation about it.
The current standings and PPG indicate 37 points is currently the projected safety mark. As it stands that requires 9 wins and a draw (to cover goal difference) which will get us to 38 points. We have a 23 game season beginning on Boxing Day and need to win 2 out of every 5 from thereon in. Or 6 in every 15. We have won 2 in 15 so far. The stats aren’t promising. However we can only hope the influence of our new manager and his coaching staff plus some astute additions in the January window can make a difference. Newcastle had exactly the same points this time last year (10 from 15) and in the end survived comfortably. So it’s not impossible but major improvements defensively and offensively are required.
Or even 9 in 23…….
Nothing is won or lost in November. Especially this season.
The only neutrals in football who didn’t think that was a stonewall penalty was Atwell and Mike Dean. And if it’s a penalty surely it’s a red red card totally turning the game on it’s head. So apart the enormity of the task ahead of him the other thing Lopetegui would have learned is how utterly incompetent PL referees are and seemingly corrupt too.
As to the rest of the game we can only wonder as to where we might be if SD had gone to a back 5 when Lage was sacked as we looked a far harder team to break down and Toti was more than up to the task if not better than Collins and Kilman on this showing. Lage might’ve saved his job if he’d had the humility to admit defeat with his back four obsession, we may of at least earnt a couple draws to keep us off the bottom as the lack of goals would’ve denied us the victories. I don’t want to have a pop at Steve Davis but this was an obvious solution to our leaking defence that needed to be explored given our predicament since before he took the reigns and in footballing terms I’m pretty sure it constituted an emergency that needed sorting, so I’m not gonna give him any credit, a good bloke and Wolves through and through but as a stand in manager completely out of his depth. Shi’s fault not his. The one thing that he has shown us is that we had a squad that was being seriously under utilised by Lage.
So the worry for me is if Lop sticks with his favoured back 4 and it doesn’t work out (again!), how long will it take him to switch to a back 5 given that time is now running out to save our PL status.
Penny for your thoughts Julen Lopetegui.
I’d hope Lopetegui is flexible with the set up, back 4 or 5 depending on several factors, mainly countering who you’re are playing and the system they play.
Lage seemed to just stick with a back 4 , he should’ve been able to change. I can’t believe he thought Toti Gomes wasn’t up to either a 4 or a 5 at the back. Every time he’s been picked he has done really well, including last season and last night. But Lage played Neves there in one game! The last game he had before the push! Jeff finally got the message.
I don’t want to succumb to the inevitable feeling I have about relegation! I am pinning a lot of faith in Lopetegui. If Fosun back him and players can be persuaded to come, who knows we could emulate Newcastle or even Leicester! Survival and top 4 or first next season.
But yes it’s not an enviable situation to be in. I accept that, but we really do need to get behind the team and manager now. It’s hard but keep the faith.
Iv got faith Allen, I think Lop will keep us up. I’m looking forward to the restart, it’s gonna be an epic battle. With a couple of quality additions chosen by Lop’s people (not by Shi or Mendes) with a good manager organising us I think we’ll be fine. No melodrama or doom merchant mathematics from me. I do wonder if Shi can sit on his hands though if it’s not all plain sailing which lets face it it rarely ever is but you can’t do more than have the mechanics in place. The rest is in the hands of fate. UTW
The thing with VAR is that referees can always play the rule multiple ways and use multiple rationales for their decisions.
A yellow card for one thing is not necessarily a yellow card 5 minutes later.
So they can choose to reverse a decision or keep it depending on what they want to accomplish.
Mr sand and Mrs cement Doogy
Quote from Johnny Phillips article in the E & S. ‘Recruitment, in the main, will be facilitated by Gestifute whose own bond with Wolves has strengthened once more after an uncertain few months.’
Ffs.
Translate as incomers will be recruited wherever possible from the incestuous Fosun / Gestitute / Mendes / WWFC merry go round which has in recent times resulted in some very poor signings.
We already have several who haven’t / can’t really cut it – Semedo, Podence, Silva (may yet come good), Guedes (doesn’t want to be here), Vitinha, Trincao – £120 million plus loan fees.
Nunes (on route to Merseyside?).
Meddling is also constant re Neves and A.Traore’s futures.
Recent positives Sa, Neto but who was being touted around prior to injury.
Plus 4 of our 5 managers under Fosun have been from “the stable”.
Hope JL can pull some strings in Porto. But beware, “Nuno had a dream” before the rug was pulled.
Closed shop or what!
It worked to start with, but in recent years we have clearly dropped down the priority list – wake up Shanghai you own a chunk of Gestitute.
So.
Mendes saint or sinner?
Gestitute / WWFC – alliance or circus?
Make your own minds up.
Only time will tell.
But at the moment we are not far above where we were 7 years ago.
And Fosun have an asset worth almost 10 x their original outlay.
And I haven’t mentioned the “cooperation” with Grasshoppers FC in tax free Zurich.
Was it all a dream?
As it stands at the moment it doesn’t look too bad for the winners.
Last chance saloon to protect your asset.
Does it matter where recruits are from ? If they are good enough who cares. No one would giv a shit if we were in top 6.
I think we’re saying the same thing COD, read the bloody post.
We’re not top six though Cheesy, we’re not even bottom six, we are absolute bottom. So our current recruitment strategy comes into question, Phillips’s statement would suggest we are doubling down on the strategy rather than moving away from it. Who was the last successful signing we had from the Gestufute stable?
Nunes on route to Merseyside? That will be Tranmere then.
Certainly 5 at the back made it hard for the Gooners to create much, especially first half .. so it was a game plan well executed…
We’ve mostly all agreed it was a penalty .. and still for the life of me have no idea why VAR didn’t give the phases more scrutiny …
To hide(shamefully) behind the statement that “there was no clear and obvious error by the infield ref” is a damn lie … and Dean should be benched from his new VAR role ….. crikey everyone was elated when he stopped reffing… he’s now taken his failings upstairs to the VAR
offices…
God luck to our new man Julen .. it’s not mission impossible but it’s going to take an almighty effort to get out of this … we clearly have defensive and attacking weaknesses, whereby we also have players who are passed there del by date or frankly have given up … (Neves excluded) …
I say .. if you’re not prepared to give your all … jog on… and when the heat gets turned up.. Strickland out you chest and go to war… for the cause.
I have to give great credit to Senor Lopetegui who, as a manager with immense global standing, has been willing to take over a club at the bottom of the league and at huge risk of relegation.
Can’t imagine Senor Guadiola or Herr Klopp doing that.
Funny how Kilmans’ development has stalled or indeed receeded since Coady left.
Roll on the new season
The Sky team seemed bewildered that a penalty was not given. The referee was actually not in a position to give an informed decision as he was clearly unsighted. Why VAR didn’t step in, I don’t know, as it is a clear an obvious error for the referee to guess. VAR should have acted. Ultimately I think we might have lost 2-1 instead of 2-0, against this very good Arsenal team, but who knows?
With Lopetegui taking over when we are rock bottom, it is at least clear cut. the only way is up. It’s quite obvious we would be relegated if we carried on with Steve Davis, or if we had hired Mick Beale, as there has been a catastrophic loss of form and confidence. When Nuno took over in the Championship, it was also clear cut. The only way was up. But, when Bruno took over things were, at worst, only opaque There had simply been a disappointing season after three wonderful seasons. It was not a team down on it’s uppers. Nuno just needed help with signings. Then Nuno, the best coach since Cullis, was sacked not backed, and Bruno was handed Nuno’s team on a plate. The fact that Bruno enjoyed a very good two thirds of a season is more testament to Nuno’s team, not Bruno. As soon as Bruno has given his head in the summer, he was found out. Sadly there is residual damage everywhere with expensive new signings flopping. Even Coady seems shell shocked after being ousted and I think this may be affecting his form in Everton’s current disastrous run. If Wolves, the club you captained and loved, didn’t want you anymore, that’s a hard knock to your confidence to bear.
Welcome Lopetegui. Let’s start Costa against Gillingham and get the good times rolling again.
Much comment on the minutiae of the game last night.
If we set aside penalties, offsides, etc one FACT remains – we are bottom of the table and deservedly so.
To all posters – get off the bloody fence and stop being apologists for the pathetic decline of the football club we all love over the last 3 years. A golden opportunity has been squandered under Shi to at least cement our long-term PL place due to ineptitude, ignorance and arrogance.
Last chance saloon folks.
Massive respect PJB. I think we have been the victim of referee decisions. You may not agree. But 3 or 4 points here and there make a massive difference. COSTA: Never once sent off for Chelsea. 3 or 4 games Wolves sent off. Last night: Alan Shearer: not offside and a penalty. Massive difference to the outcome. Man City away hits Moutinho back. Penalty. Man City home. No penalty VAR intervene (amazingly) penalty. Misses. Order re take. Liverpool away. Man Utd home. The list goes on. Not saying we arw brilliant but in the prem there are miniscule dividing lines and for some strange reason Wolves are always on the wrong end. And Mike Dean can f**k off.c
COD
I and probably you I’m sure can refer back to numerous incidents pre and post VAR that have cost us dear. My own “favourite” is probably Norman hunter’s handball on the goal line in the 1974? FA Cup SF against Dirty Leeds at Maine Road. And I don’t rule out corruption but generally (no particular cases for legal reasons). I think VAR as it’s currently utilised in this country is counter productive, open to abuse and should be scrapped in it’s current modus operandi.
But we can’t and shouldn’t keep blaming outside factors for our current disastrous predicament. 14 of the 20 PL bear the same cross,
Our current demise is solely due to the incompetence of those in charge.
End of.
Yeah . Ok. But when you are down there with dead men and hairline decisions go against you it is almost mortally conclusive over a season . 35 points or 37 points. It’s life or death. Accept the general fact we aren’t good enough but throw in a few shitty decisions which we get against the big 6 and it is life support switched off. See Villa today. Wiped out Brighton bloke clear penalty. But VAR nothing. They got points may have got none.
COD
With our recourses we shouldn’t be down amongst the dead men.
Agree with that mate. You are right there.
‘To all posters – get off the bloody fence and stop being apologists for the pathetic decline of the football club…’
This coming from someone who blogged, post-Brighton;
‘… Whoever you are you’re hiding behind the arrogance that only your views can be correct.’
Hypocrite.
Er, would have said hiding behind aliases and pseudonyms is the height of both hypocrisy and cowardice. It’s easy to be clever and two faced if you are using multiple identities.
I don’t feel ‘sitting on the fence’ is accurate really. I’m simply sitting on a different fence to you. That’s all.
My fence is surrounded by roses on all sides and cute bunnies preening themselves in the warm sunshine.
I used to be a miserable git but found it got me nowhere.
Love and Peace man …
You’re a legend Wolfstroker…
Wolfstroker
If your fence is surrounded by roses, bunnies and all things bright and beautiful I can only assume you are not sitting in the Molineux Street, Ring Road, Waterloo Road triangle. According to E&S report Senor Lopetegui didn’t find it rosy at all, specially the performance of “walkabout” Guedes.
I feel at last that we have a manager who can sort this out (if he’s backed) but he might need a season in The Championship (as did Nuno) to do it. But that might turn out to be fun for all of us as was 2017/18.
Still plenty to play for this time though – we CAN do this but it’s a big ask.
‘Aliases and pseudonyms’ eh ? Practically nobody, bar the founders, uses their actual name on this blog – INCLUDING YOU PJB. So does that make all us contributors, YOU included, ‘hypocrites and cowards’ ?
What I saw was a team that was still playing hard, with heart and determination. I attribute that to Steve Davis and his staff. Coach Davis was thrown into a no-win situation and has handled himself with class and dignity. Despite being a lame duck, his team looks as if it has followed his direction and gives it their all. They also have handled this situation with class and dignity. I just want to give a “Thanks” to Coach Davis for his guidance during this time. No matter what happens going forward he will be a part of my Wolves family.
Bring out the Branstons Thomas.
Should go with the tasty bit of Bottom I’m having for Xrimbo. We’ll all be singing ‘The only way is up, Baby’ come NYE, in our JLo wigs, Mrs all cosy in her Beverley Knight two piece.
The Gills game, and they are the only team to have scored less goals than us in the entire fitbe pyramid, must now look like an angelic godsend to prepare for the incarnation of a miracle worker.
Bollox of course. But then Brentford beat McCity at the Twatihad ffs.
1 lv & COYW.
I would not be overconfident regarding the Carabao cup game against Gillingham- they went through playing against Brentford in the last round. Just saying.
Only 36 days before the next game- we should have a prediction league on how many more posts we will get on the reasons for our demise by a certain blogger. It’s getting boring…..
Reasons for our demise by a certain blogger?
What can you mean?
I must have missed that.
I’ve been too busy sitting on the fence and happy clapping.
Come on Woodend ..
Name names… the bloggerati police said it’s ok … you won’t be fined .. or RED carded …lol
What a negative post.
And yes have the guts to name names.
If the cap fits PJB! No offence meant but just lighten up a bit. Your posts are well reasoned and tend to encapsulate what most of us are feeling. However, they risk becoming repetitive and I for one look for the positives in a situation, we cannot turn the clock back. The new guy has his work cut out but has made a good start with a polished press conference today.
Pax Ww!
I’m not sure who first said “Truth is stranger than fiction” but watching Dermot Gallagher’s explanation of the penalty incident has just proved it to be quite correct.
He pointed out that the problem lay in the incorrect flag for offside which basically nullified everything that followed. The Ref responded to the supposed offside rather than the – agreed by all – foul in the area. The fact that VAR ruled out the offside meant that the ref had not made a clear error and so could not intervene.
The only problem is that the linesman had almost certainly guessed when he flagged. On Sky, Jamie Redknapp pointed out that he was three yards behind the play and could not, from that position, have been in a position to see – so he flagged for what he guessed he would have seen had been in a position to see it. In other words VAR couldn’t rule in favour of what the whole TV audience saw, because of a bad decision by an official – exactly the thing that VAR was introduced to eliminate.
One obvious question is that why, when so often offside isn’t flagged for until the end of a move – the ‘goal’ by Jesus earlier in the match for example, did the unsighted out of position linesman decide to flag immediately – the possibility of a goal by Arsenal perhaps – no, we mustn’t think that, but you can see why speculation might start!! 🙂
I think my old Dad got it right. Frustrated by advantageous positions being ruined by too hasty whistles, his idea was that refs should be made to keep their whistles in a buttoned up pocket to prevent them blowing too hastily. That has always seemed like a good idea to me and it could be applied to linesmen who would have to keep their flags rolled up in a belt attachment on their back – like the one refs use for the spray can.
There have of course been many other suggestions down the years as to what referees could do with their whistles – and linesmen with their flags for that matter. Personally I think that my old Dad, always polite, got it just about right.
I don’t imagine that the geniuses who thought up VAR envisaged this happening, but won’t someone with an ounce of common sense save us from the law of unintended consequences. I don’t know about anyone else, but I’m not enjoying the beautiful game as much now as I used to BV – before VAR.
‘goal against’, rather than ‘by’
Apols
Surely if the linesman flags when he is not supposed to then it should be ignored as everyone knows that the linesman now flags when the ball goes out of play or ref stops play. It should have no bearing on the outcome if the game plays out.
But they’ve muddied the waters this session, Happy. Linesman can now flag if they can see that a player is clearly offside. They are only supposed to keep it down for marginal decisions. Aaaaaaaa?rrrrrrrrghhggggghhhhhhh! By the way, the idea of a lino keeping his flag up his arse to prevent hasty decisions is a non starter. What about throw ins. Maybe he/she should have three flags then. One offside, one for throw ins and one for fouls. But where to keep them?
Season not session. I could do with a session!
That conjures up a lovely picture of the linos running up and down the touchline like morris dancers late for a gig. Perhaps as well as the three flags they should have bells on their boots. 🙂
Always thought the English rugby team should Morris dance against the Hakka
That would be brilliant p.n.
Full regalia including extra large bells..yes bells not balls!
A proper, well choreographed lengthy session should totally confuse the opposition…and so funny ?
We need linesmen with 3 arseholes! Solved
Abso-bloody-lutely.
Except that Dermott’s explanation is bullshit.
His theory is that VAR could not intervene as the linesman’s flag stopped the ref from making a decision on the penalty, therefore the ref did not make an error.
But Atwell clearly waves away the penalty claim before acknowledging the flag.
And the flag was raised AFTER the contact in the box.
Premier League table after 15 matches last season: Newcastle joint bottom, 10 points from 15 matches. Then they spent a few quid after the Saudi takeover.
Premier League table this season, Wolves bottom 10 points from15 matches. Lopetegui has taken over and will spend a few quid.
There’s light at the end of the tunnel…
Hope it’s not the Channel tunnel …
Who was the other club in the bottom slot ..?
Norwich joint bottom with Newcastle but inferior goal difference.
Watford 18th.
Conspiracy theory or fact??
Interesting article in the independent. Don’t usually believe interweb headlines. But, of late you have start questioning if VAR is there to protect the elite.
Got to like this one Marnhull ..
It’s exactly what’s going on ..!!!
Kenyon openly preached exactly the same gospel when at MUFC.
Where there’s money, there’s dirt
https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/backlash-leicester-citys-title-win-4599186
It’s a fact that the same thoughts were expressed about Newcastle last season when the Saudi takeover was mooted. I think most if not all PL clubs objected, ostensibly for such reasons as human rights etc. The real fear, and it was expressed, was that Newcastle would challenge the top six, with all that Saudi money behind them. It’s happened.
So there’s only two outcomes available
one we get relegated or
two we stay up
they might both be as a result of goal difference or maybe a 4-5 point margin,,,doesn’t matter really
The key for me is that , assuming Fosun are staying for the long haul, they and Mr Lopetegui build for the long term. Decide who eventually can be a PL level player …and who won’ t make it. Bring in or back ( young prince??) players with high quality , cultivate those that can make it and let go.. in time …those who just don’t quite have it.
How do we play? That”s for the Manager to work out and gradually embed. As long as the FOSUN group are committed to the cause and spend the required money and support the Manager it will be fine.
There may not be bunnies and roses here ……but Newcastle and Leicester demonstrate that you can rise from the dead …..with or without VAR help.
Smart owners are essential however and I see that there are some on the Blog who think ours aren’t…I hope they are wrong.
OODCL
Fosun WERE very smart owners until about 3 years ago when they effectively pulled the plug on Nuno; let’s hope they have learnt a lesson and back JL because we now have their preferred man to do the job
In the dim and distant past John Barnwell and Ritchie Barker took over the reigns in November 1978 when Wolves were similarly doomed near the bottom of the old division 1. Although it was 2 points for a win we were in fact on the equivalent of where we are now (had it been 3 points for a win). Eg 10 points from 15 games. The key then was winning games at home and the odd away win. We went on to survive fairly comfortably although it was 42 games then instead of 38. So I take inspiration from the 1978/1979 season !! The season after we finished top 6 and won the league cup.
I like these 10 points/15 games examples as they are so relevant to us. As I said before, Newcastle were joint bottom on 10 points from 15 games last season before the Saudi money kicked off the revival from January. We are on that same points/games ratio now, and can take inspiration from that. Lopetegui turned us down earlier this autumn, when there was more time to play with if he had come in then. To some that suggested that he didn’t reckon our chances, but it was simply his family issue. But he has now taken over at a worse point with less time to go, so he obviously believes he can turn things around.
I haven’t said much recently due a a complete lack of enthusiasm for the current situation and some sort of burn out from it all.
But the introduction of J LO has intrigued me and a tad of interest has returned .
The intrigue is generated by why he finally decided to come and save our sinking ship .
As he has now revealed he has signed a three year contract i feel he has managed to secure major concessions from fosun and not just in words but probably contractual
which will give him and his team the reigns and unlike lage will enable him to do his job properly and succeed.
We can only speculate what these concessions are but its pretty obvious j lo is not going to work under the watchful eye of shi and sellars and will very much be his own man but i also think he has made it quite clear that if they renege on what was agreed he will walk and so he should.
He wants success on his cv not failure and we want success along with him so lets hope that unlike what shi did to nuno for whatever reasons they dont do it again with julen.
The three-year contract apparently has a clean-break clause if we get relegated. That’s to be expected.
I think our luck has changed recently with Lopetegui taking the job and us scraping through in the EFL Cup. It’s a blessing for Lopetegui to have a competitive match after the World Cup and before we play Everton on Boxing Day. I presume our best eleven will start against Gillingham, as the Everton match is a full 6 days later. In the meantime I expect a couple of friendlies at least to be scheduled during the break.
Good points Spikey- call me a dreamer but I just wonder what we might have achieved if Julen had been appointed first time round with the sort of contract and conditions you allude to?
Unfortunately woody i think he would have been treated exactly the same as nuno was and then he would have told them to stick it.
Fosun i dont think are liars but they certainly are affected by world wide situations which dealt a very heavy blow not only to them but to us all we as wolves supporters apart from our own personal problems only saw what happened here to our club and also were left guessing what had gone on with nuno. But a blind man could see that they pulled the rug on “the project” and thats where nuno lost it and where it quite obviously all went wrong.
Lets hope “the project is back on track”
Very perceptive post spikey boy. And the really sad part is how badly Nuno was let down. Agree with every word.
I wish julen lopetigui all the luck in the world to turn this around but i feel truly sorry that due to the worldwide catastrophe of covid Nuno never got to achieve what i am convinced he could have done…..but thats life ..and we all move on.
Agreed again. We should all remember Nuno with great respect and affection and also hope that JL can pick up what’s left of Nuno’s legacy and revive “the project”. Shame about the interlude though! Someone should be held accountable for this mess, but it seems Shi is fireproof.
I watched the Mexico/Sweden game and Raul played the second half. He ran seemingly pain-free.
The point I want to make is that I could have run as fast and as much as he did, and I’m in my 60s.
He was fit enough to walk around in a friendly but seemed to not be anywhere near fit enough to play in a competitive match either internationally or in the Premier League.
So he could have been in Wolverhampton but would not have realistically made the bench or been subbed on.
Hope this puts a little perspective on the situation.
Raul has been the elephant in the room for 2 years John. It’s very sad but it is what it is. Thanks to Luiz the assassin.
Yep. Another VAR dereliction of duty v Arsenal. Same game Adama gets a load of Arsenal studs on his foot in the penalty area and is upended. Result. He got booked for diving. When in reality a clear penalty. The list of VAR catastrophic errors (or were they ?) v the Big Six. Citeh home. Ref. No penalty. VAR check. Penalty. Citeh away the farcical ‘handball’ against Moutinho. Checked by VAR. Liverpool away. VVD clear handball in build up. Ref no goal as Liverpool player coming in hits arm. Handball. VAR. No handball. Goal. Neto goal ruled out after 10 minutes of drawing lines and apparently offside. Man Utd Pogba studs up red card on Neves. No VAR check leads to Utd goal. Same game Trincao wiped out in penalty area. No VAR check. The list of appaling VAR/non VAR against us is astonishing. Then last Saturday night . ???? I saw the overall accumulated 3 year VAR table end of last season. Wolves bottom on minus 10. Next up Norwich on minus 4. You would expect the gap to be a lot closer than that wouldn’t you ? And yet these things ‘even themselves out’.
COD. With you, you’ve covered it all. Think you may also find once anyone (eg Wolves, Leics City) start to look threatening decisions start going against them.
Dereliction of duty?
Manipulation?
Corruption?
Spot betting?
We saw plenty of poor refereeing pre-VAR but at least it was mainly down to honest human error.
Bottom line – protect the big 6 status quo.
But unfortunately for us we’re still bottom of the table purely on merit at the moment.
Hopefully JL to the rescue after Christmas.
Yeah. We are shit . Still think we should have at least 5 points more but then I have my gold specs on. Semedo should not have been sent off. 1 point. The wonder goal Newcastle could have gone anywhere. Another 2 points. Palace away. Sending off missed. Penalty handball clear NO VAR missed. At least 1 point. Arsenal say 1 point. Just don’t think we have had any luck at all. But is what it is. My focus now is next 15 games getting to at least 28/30 points. Eg 18/20 points from the 15. This gives us a fighting chance going in the last 8 games.
More corrupt than Idi Amin on a bad day , have you noticed how 90% of the commentators are in on it as well
You sometimes get the situation where a player leaves a club in order to protect his place in an international team, like Coady for example. Sadly for Raul, that option is not open to him. His career at the elite level and club level is probably over. I wonder if Raul and/or Wolves will have a claim on an insurance policy?
Found a great iPhone deal…
Scott Sellars sacked !
Sellars gone! Best piece of news for ages. If anyone wants to defend this guy check him out on Wikipedia first. Let’s get behind JL from day 1 and this looks like a very positive start. Complete rethink needed, maybe Jeff has seen the light. It’s s not too late if we get it right in the Jan. window. COYW.
Let’s hope so. Rumour has it that Bruno is getting his coaching team together before becoming the new new Corinthians manager – will Sellars join him? If Jeff takes a back seat and allows the proven professionals to take charge we may indeed have a bright future.
Just watched the Rugby League Wheelchair World Cup Final.
What a great game!
A World Cup that actually means something.
And England won it.
I don’t begrudge Raul the World Cup. It’s most likely his last in his career. Our loyalties are understandable but Jiminez has given us everything, he owes us nothing after the head injury. If he plays in a few games he’ll be match fit when he comes back so we should take the positives. People saying he’s played his last game for Wolves need to give their head a wobble. Absolute nonsense.
So what’s folks thoughts on taking Harry Maguire on loan in Jan and signing Ronaldo till the end of the season to save our necks. Personally I think it might work. Ronaldo is toxic but he scores a lot of goals and we have the Portugal connection, Maguire is unwanted at Man U and could do a job for us.
At this time, more than any other, we need unity in the dressing room. Not sure CR7 would give us that.
Unity in we fans will also help. I sense that may be breaking out too, in the face of all this adversity.
The strength of the wolf, an’ all that.
I would agree with that WS but we are desperate in those areas and it wouldn’t be permanent although I think Maguire would be a good signing long term, Ronaldo for a quick fix to get us out of jail. Only 5 months and he goes off to the MLS for semi retirement..
Ronaldo is finished and Maguire is overrated.
Ronaldo scored 20 goals last season. That’s far from finished. He’s not getting any game time this season. Maguire currently first choice CB for his country.
That was last season. A year is a long time when you’re 38/39. Too toxic by far as well.
Nice idea, never gonna happen. But I think you already know that.
You know it Adrian but it’s nice to speculate 🙂
Number 1 we can’t afford Ronaldo’s wages but if we ask him nice he might want to polish his image by taking us on as a charity case and when we stay up [no doubts] he will be able to put hero on his cv
Not a big enough stage for his ego although nobody expected him to go to Juve.
Looks like Sellears will be sacrificed by Jeff…….but the as much as I think Sellears should go he was just a yes man what ever Jeff decided Sellears agreed with him.
Sacking Sellears won’t change a think because Jeff is still the man who makes all the decisions basically Sellears has been sacked for doing exactly what he was told to do…….blow smoke up Jeff’s arse.
Looking back on our disastrous transfer dealings since 2019, it’s so crazy. The story is a bit like the Madness of King George, except that it’s The Madness of King Jeff.
My business was favoured the other day by a visit from Sally Morgan, the lovely wife of our ex-owner Steve Morgan. I’d love to find out what Steve thinks of Wolves now! Regardless of our thoughts on Steve’s reign at Wolves, his work and support for so many charities with the Steve Morgan Foundation these days is outstanding. I think he and Nuno would have mutual respect for each other in philanthropy.
I can just here Jeff saying to Scott, ” your sacked ” Scott replays ” but…but I did what you asked me to do Jeff “…….. Jeff, ” why didn’t you tell me Scott we were buying average players that were over priced from the same agent ”
Scott….. ” that was your idea Jeff so you could get a good chunk of your money back because you have shares in that agents company “.
Poor Scott he was dammed from the off , agree and take the blame down the line when it all goes tits up, disagree and he would of been out the door two years ago…….it’s a hard life folks
The model was working because 1. We got promoted from the Championship by a long margin 2. We finished 7th 2 seasons running. We got in to Europe. 3. We comfortably avoided relegation after that. Sellars on his bike . Lets line up the next scape goat.
COD
You seem to have forgotten that Laurie Dalrymple and Thelwell were still around until that point. It was only after they left it started to fall apart with the sale of Jota, the signing of Cuitrone etc. etc. One bad decision after another by Shi / Sellars has led us to where we are now.
Please don’t be an apologist for Sellars – not a scapegoat, just a stooge and not a very good one at that.
Not sure that I follow this? What’s your point,Cheesy?
There is always someone to blame. Sellars was this years model. Someone else will come along.
So who is culpable then for the disintegration of Nuno’s revolution? Euoropean contenders to relegation favourites. Somebody has to carry the can.
Look i just get fed up with the conspiracy theories. No one knows anything. If anyone has a actually been involved in the inner sanctum decision making I will gladly hear from you Otherwise it is all just bullshit .
They’ve got the place bugged, I reckon.
I didn’t quite hear that mate.
Can you talk into the Aspidistra?
I’m listening still.
I think that your fed up because some Bloggers called it right. The proof is we are bottom of the Premier League with the most disfutional and weak squad we’ve had since our return to the Premier League………the table doesn’t lie.
For me the buck stops at Jeff. The precursor to our awful start to this season (and in fact to our awful finish last season) goes back to the decision to sack Nuno. Jeff’s fingerprints were all over that. It was THE most shocking decision since the sacking of Stan Cullis, and that’s saying something. I’m still angry about it. The fact that Nuno was again in contention when Bruno was sacked is an admission by Jeff that he had been wrong. It’s not enough even to say sorry, as being wrong has left us in great danger of relegation. The decision to hire Lopetegui may be the first correct decision Jeff has made in three years, that is, if Lopetegui is even Jeff’s decision at all. Someone higher up may have read the riot act to Jeff.
Sorry cheesy but im pretty sure you would be quick to blame maggie for the miners demise ,major for trying his hardest to keep us in the EU., boris for having a party, truss for not having a clue and sunak for just about everything else.
Thats because they are in charge ,top dog, head honcho or whatever so the outcomes of whatever decisions may have been made by others rests on their shoulders alone …no one else’s .
Shi is in charge and and always has been so if he hires people beneath him who f### the whole thing up then he should go as did our prime ministers.
He overstepped his remit and considered himself capable of running the whole show which he has royaly f####d up anyone can see that even without bugging his office.
For what its worth it looks as though he has been scalded and put back in his box so now maybe we can get back to being a bloody good football club again and he can get on with his stock market shite and leave the footy to the people who know about footy which is all we should be worried about.
You are right there mate. But my overall thinking is Fosun have done ok. It’s not looking good right now and if I was a betting man I would have us to go down. But I reckon Loppy would not have come to us without some assurances. This is a bloke who was Spain manager. My gut feeling is this could go to the wire and we will sneak it. Possibly last game. Usually as a Wolves fan you just expect doom and gloom and relegation. Not this time. We are staying up. We are Wolves. Out of Darkness Cometh Light.
Yes mate respect where its due they got us out of deep shite and hopefully in a few years time when the dust has settled and we are all in the wwfc retirement home sitting around a jigsaw of the new Molineux putting the pieces in the wrong places and going over the good old days we will look back and thank the powers above that they rescued us from oblivion and took us to the top table .
I’ve just heard the latest news from Qatar.
One love arm bands will not be worn because anyone who dares to put one on will be booked.
I know they are a bit of a pathetic way of putting a point across anyway, but it just shows again what a corrupt, cowardly, money grabbing organisation FIFA is.
I’m still wiping the sick off my Wolves away shirt after the toe curlingly cringeworthy speech by Infantino before the opening game.
Am I the only one who thinks that any self respecting national team should just pack their bags and come home now?
Evil country, stupid time of year, not a proper World Cup.
I wonder when the entire England team take the knee before the Iran game (if they are still allowed to without offending some greasy multibillionaire), they will be sent off.
Rather hypocritically some might say, I will watch the England games, because I’m a football fan and always have been, and not watching is going to make absolutely no difference to the situation.
But what a sad state of affairs World Football has come to.
Just my opinion on your 6th paragraph:
1. Agree.
2. Disagree. We’ve always had World Cups in the height of summer and, from a pure footballing perspective, that’s the stupidest time of year. Players are knackered after a long season and the weather is generally too hot for exciting football even in European countries. Because of the nonsense of choosing a scorching hot country as host and having to switch to winter time FIFA might well get themselves a top tournament.
3. Why?
Hi Ped Ant. In answer to your reply.
1) Thanks
2) The ‘Height of Summer’ applies only to countries north of the equator. They play football in the southern hemisphere too. It’s Winter there. Also, other leagues in other countries have different start and end times from ours.
Are you saying that the time and conditions should be perfect only for us?
3) You’ve partly answered your own question.
It’s not a proper World Cup…
‘Because of the nonsense of choosing a scorching hot country as host and having to switch to winter time’.
Because it was only FIFA’s greed and the corruptness (is that a word?) of Platini and Blatter that gave it to a country that had has no history of football… In order to host the competition had to build stadia from scratch, costing many lives… Lay down their own rules for what players and fans can and can’t do… and has one of the worst human rights records on the planet.
Is Italy or Spain a scorching hot country and if so, should they never be allowed to host the World Cup in your view?
Neither are scorching hot in comparison but World Cups in both would probably be better in winter time. You may recall the competitions of 1982(Spain)and 1990 (Italy) and,apart from a few standout games, both were pretty turgid affairs.
The smell of money always leads to some slimy greaseball (apologies for any offence intended Mr Moxey)
Your last sentence sums it all up really Doogy.
Its as if the far east is not unlike an Indiana Jones set .
I really can’t say that I believe our western values and democracy are perfect but everyone has opportunities to be who they are
Hi doog ,
Your spot on mate and doesn’t that Infantino completely fit the Scorsese depiction of a top mafia boss …which he is ..really.
Confusing news from Wolves. The BBC reckons we are going to Dubai for warm weather training. BBC contacted all 20 PL clubs for their plans during the break. Other sites say we are going to Marbella. This is what the BBC said yesterday:
” BBC Sport also understands Wolves will be going to Dubai in early December, with at least one friendly there, however their recent change of manager means details are still to be finalised”
In other news I read that Glasgow Rangers have approached Mick Beale of QPR for the head coach vacancy. Bit of a turnaround for Beale after rejecting Wolves and then going on a bad run at QPR,
So Jimenez played 20 minutes of WC football today and received a 7.35 score on the BBC website (second highest to MOTM Guillermo Ochoa). Keeping my fingers crossed he’s coming back. Yes! Jimi’s coming home.
QATAR.
Get it about all the corruption surrounding the award of the WC being awarded to Qatar in the first place, very bad form.
Don’t get –
1. Criticism of the timing. Tournaments evolve, it doesn’t always have to be in the European summer.
2.All the criticism aimed at the Qataris.
It’s their country.
It’s their culture.
They aren’t perfect, but who is? If anyone didn’t like it they could have stayed at
home; that’s players, ex players / pundits, commentators, supporters et al.
Funny how so many picking up fat pay cheques have suddenly decided to preach from a moralistic ivory tower now that the money is in their offshore bank accounts.
Shame on you all you bloody hypocrites, we know who you are.
Now let’s get on with the football – come on England or whoever you happen to support. It should only be a game, but sadly those days have long gone. But politics and sport still don’t mix.
ps. And good luck to all of our guys participating (including, or maybe specially Conor Coady, I for one would love to have you back).
So you don’t have a problem with them changing the rules at the last minute? You don’t have a problem with people being treated like slaves?
Please elaborate – not drinking in the stadium, is that catastrophic? The slaves were there from the outset.
When you bribe (£880m!) your way into holding the biggest international tournament in existence that you are so woefully lacking in infrastructure that you need to spend £440billion to facilitate to open your doors to the rest of the world you cannot then complain when they take issue with the the human rights abuses happening in your backyard not to mention the 6500 migrant labourers that died building your vanity project’s monuments to corruption. Just for some perspective £440billion is equivalent to the poorest 86 countries GDP added together, that’s two thirds of the world’s countries. It’s beyond disgusting. Confusing politics with human rights says it all though tbh. Human rights = the basic fundamental rights a human should have. Politics = the way you run a country. No politics in football? So how does that work if you’re a Qatari woman or gay Qatari wanting to go to a Qatari football match if you’re not allowed (confusing isn’t it). A tiny nation in the desert where there are only 5 places you can buy beer with Draconian laws on almost everything that constitutes fun in the rest of the world gets to host the biggest party in the world. That is how low football has sunk with regards to corruption. Qatar possibly the dullest place on earth, you’d be a shoe in PJB.
Happy Claptrap.
If you want to make it personal fine!
Think you’ll find my post clearly recognises the shortcomings of moral values in Quatar and it applies pretty much across The Gulf States.
There is a lesson or two to be learnt here isn’t there?
So
1.”He Who Sups With The Devil Should Have A Long Spoon”.
2.”When in Rome do as the Romans do”.
Don’t take the hypocrisy out on me point the finger at FIFA and all the real hypocrites taking the money and then bleating after they have picked up their fees, “commissions”, bribes or however their dodgy renumeration is described on their inbound bank transfers. And that arguably incudes players. I agree with you the system is rank rotten.
So thanks for the lecture but all you have said merely agrees with my rather more succinctly made points, yawn.
You said:
1/ Criticism of the timing blah blah.
They bought the right to host the tournament illegally and corrupt FIFA have moved heaven and earth to accommodate them despite this being exposed years before the tournament start date and it being massively inconvenient for the vast majority of the other nations taking part.
You said
2/ It’s their country.
It’s their culture.
Keep politics out of football.
It is their country and its an authoritarian regime living under Sharia law.
Their culture is repressive to women, gay people and minorities in general as regards working conditions and status within said culture.
Keep politics out of football is just fence sitting bullshit where nothing ever changes playing completely into the hands of the corrupt officials and Qatari regime. Fk that.
As regards making it personal, if you stop repeating the same mantra as regards Wolves hierachy I won’t call you dull.
Talking of repeating yourself!!!yourself!!yourself!
And as for corrupt and authoritarian regimes are you blind to what goes on in the land of our owners.
Any rants on the Uyghurs for example?
This is supposed to be a Wolves forum not a personal platform for your rather naive views. I don’t like the world we live in much either but why not try to restrict politics to the political pages.
If you look up the thread you’ll notice that you brought this subject up in the original post. If you don’t want a response then don’t start the conversation pal.
Despite that I’ll say whatever I like anyway and you’ll have to suck it up sweet cheeks.
Or you can just scroll on but we already know that you do not possess that ability hence we have to put up with your incessant repeating of the same point.
Happy – no.
Claptrap – yes.
Add arrogant and ignorant.
Quote you from above which ironically sounds like some sort of slave driver from a Qatari construction site.
“Despite that I’ll say whatever I like anyway and you’ll have to suck it up sweet cheeks”. Pond life dialogue.
Stick it “pal”.
lol
I have to agree with that post ‘p.j’s
Two fifths of the world’s countries not two thirds. 86 out of 215
‘But politics and sport still don’t mix. ‘
Congratulations on winning the ‘Naive post of the Century’ award.
Ronaldo now available – perhaps Neves can have a quiet word to him in Qatar
Have thought the same.
In our position half a season of Ronaldo could define the future for years to come. He would surely even score a few goals.
Sorry Ronaldo is not for me. Never will happen anyway, he has bigger fish to fry. His interview with Piers Morgan paints himself as a victim. Victim!? He must be joking. Probably one of the highest paid players in world football. He refused to go on against Spurs. Today he has refused, as Portugal captain, to attend the press conference! He’s continually throwing his toys out of the pram. He’s not a victim, he’s a toxic spoilt brat. He called Man U a ‘marketing club’ and not a normal football club. Tell you what, no normal football club could ever afford his wages! It takes a marketing club to afford him!
Give me Diego Costa anytime. He’s a few years younger for a start and he’s not too proud to don the Old Gold shirt of Wolves. Costa will never be a victim.
He’s not for me either but if he was the difference between relegation and staying up then I’d forgive him his sins. Besides he’s a product of the modern game and the culture in football, he fits in with the rest of the shit we have to put up with. Vilifying one player when there is so much other more damaging bullshit in the game seems hypocritical though, it’s a fart in a storm. Man Utd Corporation deserve no respect imo. Whereas Ronaldo for all his faults is a footballing genius and an indisputable legend. I’d take him for half a season in the blink of an eye. If we’re happy to take Costa then it’s a no brainer considering how far apart they are on recent form.
I’m sorry but if you want to risk losing the dressing room, sign Ronaldo! I can’t remember when we last had what you could call a ‘big time Charlie’ but Roger Johnson and Jamie O’Hara come to mind, albeit at a vastly lower level of talent.
Just watching Romain Saisse against Croatia, his concentration levels , man marking , positioning , discipline , spacial awareness and tackling are exemplary . What a solid defensive display . Wish Wolves had a player like that
He wanted a longer contract than Wolves were willing to give him. Move on.
Well, HE certainly did.
Why don’t you move on ? And take your fucking snide comments with you
Dendoncker, Saiss, Coady all seriously involved in World Cup participation but not good enough to play for bottom of the table Wolves.
All rejected for little or no transfer fee.
Something not quite right here!
Here we go again:-
Germans sunk by japanese sub.
I’m neither for or against us attempting to sign Ronaldo and not even sure it would come under serious consideration but reading the news about him something did catch my eye. His contract at united was £0.5m per week. On that basis, if we signed him in January until the end of the season, it would cost us c£12m and then he would be worthless. However, he is a proven goal scorer and would be very valuable in terms of shirt sales, short term sponsorship value etc. He would cost wolves less than we have spent on several players inc wages under the fosun regime a number of which have contributed far less than the goals ronaldo would contribute, so perhaps it shouldn’t be dismissed as a complete non starter? Where else could we spend 12m in January and guarantee premier league goals? Relegation will cost us far more…….
makes total common sense but i dont the manders centre has the shops for ronaldos missus so probably a non starter
Commute from Cheshire, about 1 hour.
Clearly someone thinks you’ve got your timings wrong PJB.
Another one gone.
RIP Wilko Johnson.
Lead guitarist in the greatest pub rock and blues band to ever strut the stage.
I was lucky enough to see him in one of his last gigs in July.
A sad loss.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp2DvPKh118&list=RDYp2DvPKh118&start_radio=1
This is sad news indeed Doogooder but thanks because I didn’t hear about this. I saw him at the 100 Club, Oxford Street in 1974 with the original Feelgood line up. Brilleaux sweating profusely, wailing harp, Wilko would lunge forward every now and then out of the dark. Pretty much an all male, white crowd that night. Frantic stuff. Occasional strobe light exaggerating that angular awkwardness. It seemed threatening powerful macho loud music booming out off that almost lightless club stage. It predated punk by three years. They were already big then but by way of the grapevine rather than any appearances on TV or radio. It was sad when he left the line up. Loved “Down by the Jetty” and “Malpractice” but fame took off the edge a bit or I moved on. BTW I’m 74 with along memory.
Meanwhile, I enjoyed the 75 minutes that Ruben put in today but his sub scored the winning goal so I hope he gets another game.
Ruben’s talents looked wasted tonight in a holding role, he looked off the pace too- was it the heat or those long shorts which came down to his socks? The Portuguese goalie will never live that cockup at the end down- will Jose get an opportunity?
I saw him and his band a few years ago in Exeter. Terrific presence on stage and great musicianship from himself and his bandmates.
A legend of the British music scene has left us. His music will live on.
So Scott’s been sacked and Jeff promotes the bloke who was in charge of scouting players…….same old same old Jeff but in a different wrapper.
Another yes man…… Who will go the same way as the last yes man.
It’s just a reshuffle of the same shit no new ideas or blood.
It’s a bit like the Conservative party, innit? They had as many prime ministers this autumn as Wolves had head coaches. That said, let’s give Matt time. If Lopetegui is happy with him, I am too. I think Matt unearthed a few gems in South America, but he who must be obeyed said ‘no’…
I’m not a buyer for sellers!
The only good thing about tonight is it means Wales need to win 4-0 against us and hope Iran v USA is a draw. So lock up your sheep in Cardiff when it all goes tits up !!
Wolves are huge in Qatar.
As is Mr Creosote in The Meaning of Life
Great if Raul gets the winner and sends the Argies on their way.
Jimi Hendrix BBC2 9.30. MASSIVE hero of mine.
Mine too mate.
Watching it, volume turned up to eleven.
Ridiculous to think he would have been 80 tomorrow.
Superb guitarist and lovely man.
A customer of mine saw him 5x times play live including the famous gig in Chislehurst caves.
He told me that his gigs were extremely loud….something I wouldn’t have believed had he not been there.
Well chuffed to see Saiss and his gang beat Belgium. Not the most skilful player, but always gave 100%. Another player we should have kept for a couple more seasons!
Central figure in Wolves watertight defence for years just shown the door now captains Morrocco to famous victory while his ex central defensive partner is also in Qatar with England.
Meanwhile we ship goals left right and centre since they left.
Well done Jeff, Scottie and Bruno.
Will be rooting for you to go as far as you can Romain. Good luck.
Agreed PJB. Saiss was a decent enough bloke. Bit of a nutter. Great in the 3 at the back. Lage has a lot to answer for. He was instrumental in ripping the heart out of a decent functional premier league outfit. You can’t transition from the regimented 3 4 3 under Nuno to suddenly attempt a sea change and expect results. Lessons to be learned from all involved. Including Jeff . No wonder we are in a mess. Hopefully J-Lo comes in to sort out some organisation in the team and a few shrewd signings in Jan. 9 wins and a draw. Sorted.
COD
I argued in favour of giving Lage time.
I was wrong.
The guy has done irreparable damage to our club and really left us in a mess. Lopetegui has a hell of a job on his hands to avoid the destruction of all the good work of the Nuno era. And he needs to be backed in Jan. to have a decent chance of pulling it off.
Shi also seriously culpable in this shambles.
I agree mate. Fosun seem to have learned a few lessons. Made a few changes. The mood music suggests Fosun will splash the cash in the January window. J Lo et al need to make sure we get the right geezers in .
Well done admitting about Bruno. I argued keeping Nuno on. I’m not saying I was right but look where his successor left us. Bruno ripped the heart out of the defence with those departures and left the squad perilously unbalanced with the new signings. When Bruno was appointed I reluctantly welcomed him, while mourning Nuno’s departure. Normally I would back the incumbent because nobody becomes a bad coach overnight but Bruno’s activity with incomings and outgoing was just bizarre. Other heads should have rolled also, possibly Jeff too.
The silver lining to this nightmare is Lopetegui of course. We all have to back him through thick and thin now. Fans’ opinions do count with the hierarchy. Remember, every single departure that we now mourn after was the subject of bitter criticism by fans from time to time.
Of course you were right about Nuno. Probably our stand out manager since Stan Cullis but brushed aside with little logic and no compunction, a victim of Fosun lack of direction and backing at the time.
Crazy decision which has set us back years even if they wish to stick around and revive their “project” which they suddenly (and belatedly) seem to want to do.
Yeah big congratulations to Saiss. Not sufficiently appreciated at board level nor by certain parts of the fans. Especially the guy who sat behind and to my left in the Steve Bull. Used to be moaning about him the whole game . If you’re reading this do you recognise yourself mate. (You remind me of one or two on this Blog)
Wales knew they needed a 4-0 score line to progress to the last sixteen.
Well, they nearly did it.
Hey doog – would like to get in touch as I want to send Clive misses a card . Can’t remember any details of anything … do you or anyone still have mine from the pandemic albion game ?
Got it ! thanks Twix !!
Just watched Belgium v Croatia – Romelu Lukaku looks like a Wolves player. Is he available? ;0)
Did anyone on here know that Hwang could run that fast?
He clearly knew where the back of the net was all along . . . . 4500 miles from WV1!
Heard a funny story from a London cabbie. About 40 years ago the great comedian Tommy Cooper got in a cab. Tommy was known to be a bit stingy. When it came to time to pay, Tommy paid the fare on the clock. He then stuffed something in the cabbie’s top pocket and said, have a drink on me! When the cabbie checked it was a tea bag…
Rumour is that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matheus_Cunha will join Wolves from Atletico Madrid in January.
Looks like both Man U and Liverpool were interested in him last January and in the summer respectively.
Sounds like it might be a new record signing.
Rumour is that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Garc%C3%ADa_(footballer,_born_1994) (David Garcia) is another target but the rumour is that it is still in the negotiation phase from what I can see. His current team is in 7th place in La Liga. The release clause is reported to be 20 million euros and they are reportedly offering to double his wages. (Did you think he was joining the team because of the weather?)
This seems to be fairly firm but anything can happen.
Weather? What are you on about? Best climate in the world in good old blighty.
England 9 France 0. Coming soon .
At rugby maybe.
A lot of media noise developing regarding two Athletico Madrid players who we are said to be talking to. Cunha appears to be a Mendez client and on that basis it will probably happen. Let’s hope we get in any new recruits as soon as is practical, pay the fees and integrate them into the squad.
On another positive note Costa looks trim and hopefully as close to fitness as he will ever be again. Let’s get off to a flyer against Gillingham and adopt the same attitude as the England cricket team – every game is winnable.
Not sure if it is true but I read that Wolves can sign the players now but they can’t register them or play them until January.
So they can practice with the team immediately and one of the players was missing from his team’s practice so….
Not sure if this is true because I read it on Twitter.
We are gonna do the French. That geezer up front is 36 years old . Southgate is gonna get inspiration from Bazball cricket and we just need to be ultra positive . Think about our own game. And smash the French. Its coming…
Jiminez must go. You can’t have a striker pretending he is not fit for Wolves but plays for Mexico. Sorry. He must go. I don’t want that bollocks round the team. Fuck him off.
Lopetegui has already called him out, saying that he should put club before country!
Quite right. Assuming that any club will buy him in January, Raul is leaving.
Captain Saiss has been the player in my book!
The Moroccan defence has been as Wolves’ defence used to be!
Brilliantly led by Saiss.
I think we should have their back four for the rest of the season. 🙂
Even better, now Morocco got through on penalties. 🙂
Salute you Roman Saiss and your team.
Contrary to Lage and Shi for many of us after 6 years loyal service and consistency at Molineux forever a Wolf (along with Conor Coady).
What a waste!
F*****n idiots Bruno and the lot of them….Saiss, say no more…oh go on then, Coady, Dendoncker, hardened Premier players, it makes me bloody furious, you couldn’t make it up!
Don’t worry we have “seasoned professionals” like Collins, Toti Gomez and Mosquera as replacements.
Also, Willy Boly? Why?
Utter madness.
Which is why we are where we are.
Some of the exits can be questioned but surely not big Wily. Never the same player after catching Covid and can’t get near Forest’s team.
Point taken Ped Ant. But just another strand in the systematic dismantling of Nuno’s squad by Lage. Change for the sake of it and look where it’s left us.
Had tears in my eyes at the end. So pleased for Saiss.
We play Cadiz next Wednesday. Cadiz just beat Man U 4-2 !
It looks like it could be a useful test for us. OK, Man U were without their World Cup players but could still put a decent team out.
We’re without our World Cup players as well.
Wellington……..Nelson……..bring forth your powers the nation of shop keepers who stood firm and reselant when others gave in and conspired with there conquers ……….we are ENGLAND……..and every man is expected to do his duty.
God Save the King….!
Saiss played a blinder for Morocco. What a result, beating the Portuguese pretenders!
Ronaldo went off in tears at the final whistle. Tears for himself, me thinks.
What the fuck was that Kane penalty??? Normally so good. Oh well bollocks to it. I’m supporting Morocco now. Love it for Romaine Saiss.You just know it’s gonna be a Argentina v France final. Think I will paint the fucking shed or summat than watch that shite. All i’m bothered about now is Wolves staying up. OODCL.
I think Harry Kanes chin was probably too big for this game
That fuckin penalty was shite. Bottle job me thinks. Can’t say France were any better than us but it is what it is. Any way COME ON MORROCO!
Another England team….. bottle it…….will we ever get to a final again………not in my life team may be the next life.
The ref was crap.
France got the rub of the green… and the VAR.
The England team didn’t bottle it.
Kane missed a penalty.
It (sometimes) happens.
Come on Morocco!
Anyone fancy that new Kane beer just out?
Brewed in Tottenham.
Bottled in Qatar.
We beat Cadiz 4-3 but to put that into perspective, Cadiz beat Man U 4-2 last week.
Lopetegui’s overall managerial career stats are excellent. Played 378, goals conceded 350. Goals for 681. Win ratio 58.47%, with an impressive 70% ratio in 20 matches coaching the Spanish national team.
interesting… i think Nunos was at about 48 pc … and Kenny Jackett s was slightly higher but obviously at a lower level
Encouraging and impressive stats !
Undefeated in 20 matches for Spain. Quite a record.
All we need now is for some good new players to come
On that note London wolves:
BBC website is reporting that Lopetegui is targeting six new players in January, and that ‘key’ players will not leave. I quote from the report:
“The club accept their present position at the foot of the table means they are likely to have to pay inflated transfer fees. However, there is a belief at Molineux that the Fosun Group, the club’s Chinese owners, understand the predicament the team is in and are aware of the financial consequences of failure.”
Sounds like Lopetegui has now had an in-depth look at the squad and pressed the ‘help’ button!
Link:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63999749
Bruno is being considered for the Portuguese national team head coach. I’ve read that he is the second choice but still, for someone with no real coaching experience who is completely incompetent, that is pretty good.
Time to press the re set button. JL is now well aware. JL has transfer targets in mind. JL will not be here if he has no backing. Fosun will provide backing. We are in the shit. We can’t score goals. We need to win nine games from 23. The recipe is in the pot. Give it a stir. What will be the outcome?. The prem is a massively unforgiving league. My ask is bit by bit. In every 5 games 2 wins. I have a feeling Hwang might play a big part in the survival bid. JL is the catalyst. Still 69 points to play for. My verdict. We will sneak out of it the game before last.
All will be well cheese mate.the biggest problem is confidence and changing the manager and coaching staff at this time along with the second pre- season will certainly have helped.
Keep the faith
UTW
Given the international standing of JL, he would not take on a basket-case club. I think we might sneak through a bit sooner than you expect. It’s a tough January though and the rumoured six incomings will be stretched out in January, they won’t all come the first week. There’s a white-knuckle ride ahead.
Why do we need to win 9 games from 23?
Because that will give us 27 points. Add that to 10 we already have = 37 points. Add in a couple of draws and that gives us 39/40 which is usually enough.
Blimey. RIP Terry Hall of The Specials. Only 63. One of my favourite bands and music of a generation. Coming so soon after Jet Black of The Stranglers passed last week. Another of my favourites. Two very different bands but I was a fan of both.
I too was shocked and saddened Cheesey.
Be fascinating to see how we line up, and perform, against Gillingham.
So fascinating in fact that I’m bringing the Missus up to Molineux to view the fare on offer. The start of a whole new era, we hope, as the manager Mr Shi wanted all along finally gets the chance to begin to prove what all the fuss has been about all this time.
Big pressure on Senor Lopetegui and his team though to get it right first time. We are in deep do-do’s!
3-0 to the boys in Old Gold.
De tenebris lux oritur as they say in whitmore reans
Or “clarior e tenebris” as my school had it.
We had our own unofficial motto – “noli illigitimi carborundum esse” – “don’t let the b…..ds grind you down”
COYW
COJ
God Bless Terry Hall……..I was 13 when The Specials hit the scene…….every kid in my class loved them and had monkey boots and Harrington jacket.
I managed to see them live……once the 30th Anniversary gig filmed at the civic hall Wolverhampton.
It’s funny but I little bit of me…..has died to massive part of my youth growing up there message has even greater significance in these worrying times.
I still have a pair of monkey boots and a Harrington…….thanks for the music…. Terry and some brilliant memories growing up.
R..I.P
I seem to remember Minnie Driver’s character listening to the Specials in that great movie, Gross Pointe Blank. Whole lot of shooting going on in that film! Unlike Molineux tonight. But a win is a win and a banana skin avoided is a banana skin avoided. Ask Brentford about Gillingham’s banana skins.
A win is a win is a win. The entire Gillingham team were in their own half behind the ball. There is parking the bus and parking the bus. But they are league 2 and it was a hard watch tonight. They have been playing during the world cup. We haven’t played for 38 days. We have only just got the WC boys back. We looked better with Raul Hwang and Nunes on as subs and got the goals. We move on. Draw for next round is on 22nd Dec after the Citeh game. 2 wins from Wem ber ley !!