Defensive football isn’t in fashion but if it was, Wolves would be a designer label.
In back-to-back games against arguably the two best attacking sides in the world, we’ve surrendered exactly one last minute scuffer and one stodgy looking penalty.
The Goals For column needs some serious attention, but at least we’ve got a rock solid platform to build.
Had Raul not gone temporarily insane, we may have been able to do that today, but once he went down the tunnel it was nothing more than a turkey shoot.
City did everything but score prior to John Moss doing most of the work for them, so you can’t begrudge them the result too much, but even so, the pill tastes bitter.
A cross into the arm pit is not a penalty and no contorted explanation of the VAR process will convince me otherwise.
Peter Walton in the BT Studio actually said VAR isn’t there to re-referee the game. Funny that, because I thought that was it’s precise purpose?
At the very least, the referee on the pitch should have been told to take a second look. If he’d seen the replays we all saw and still had the brass tacs to give it, I would have felt a bit better about things.
As it is, we feel beaten by technology, not the champions of England.
Max Kilman nearly rescued a point at the finish and had he done so it would have capped one of the finest performances I’ve seen from a Wolves defender in a good while.
Heroic is a suitable adjective for his efforts, particularly after smashing his noggin against Ruben’s headband.
He’ll be feeling sore tomorrow, as will most of his team mates and the true cost of this defeat may well not be realised until Wednesday at Brighton.
But if we compete as we did today, we certainly won’t go too far wrong.
It just seems to me that 95% of VAR decisions always go against us. And if VAR goes with the Ref on the field like today why did it chalk off our penalty at palace? That was neither a clear or obvious error so what is going on ? Today was much more obviously wrong and yet it gets given. I make that 4 penalties given against us this season. Three of them dodgy. And NO penalties given to us. Liverpool and City could should have been 2 points. We got none.
You ve got to ask yourself why do these decisions constantly go against us
Is football RIGGED ?
I think it is . The money involved makes me believe that the status quo on the monopolising clubs is such that there is a long game of rigging going on
If it was blatantly done it would be noticed but little V A R issues over a long period of time keeps the Cartels in tact and the status qui prevails
What other explanation can be given for wrong video evidence??
A totally one sided affair, spoilt by an over weight travesty of a ref, with var pathetically wimping out, rolling over and agreeing with a roly poly who cannot keep up with play.
And City didn’t play badly either.
They have almost perfected the dark art of diving, whining and generally trying to win free kicks illegally.
Only the afore mentioned roly poly’s lack of play keeping upism stopped them gaining even more advantage.
Playing with 11 against 12 is bad enough, but 10 against 13?
Never gonna win.
Absolute farce of a result, but now our lack of scoring, only 1 in 6 games is gonna start becoming a problem.
Over to you, Mr Shi
If I’d written that last line Clive you would have given me some stick. But you are of course right.
Who, Moi?
Never!!
Why take Traore off ?
He was our only hope with a ball played over the top
Thought he would have taken Moutinho off
Ultimate defeat makes you wish we had played 3 up from the start
Agree entirely bash
Might be something to do with being knackered.
I see your point about taking Traore off – even if he isn’t doing anything, there is the threat he will. But while he was on in the second half nearly the whole game was played in our box and he wasn’t defending space or a player a lot of the time. It was basically 11 on 9 in and around our goal box. And with so much play in our box, they were going to find a reason to give City a penalty sooner of later. When he went off they still attacked a lot, but the game got pushed upfield a bit – much less threatening. Problem was there was no actual threat on goal… With him on we were more likely to score but MUCH more likely to concede IMHO.
If that is a penalty I will stop watching football because the likes of MU MC LP Che you never get a decision in your favour. But what a defensive performance even with the ref against us and we had chances but as normal you get nowt Coady saiss and kilman were brill pity about the ref and var. 2 of the top teams Liverpool and MC can only beat us 1-0 and both .very lucky. As for Raul sending of god he has to know he can not do that now Wed againSt Brighjon with out a striker and we don’t score goals anyway its going to be hard.
What chances Dek I blinked twice and clearly missed them ?
Ten men don’t have much chance against twelve. No wonder Nuno said he hoped Jon Moss would never referee a Wolves game again. Lawro reckoned a 4-0 hammering was in store. Most teams would have shut up shop against Citeh in the second half and chucked defenders on. Bruno did the opposite!
We should take heart from the last two results in particular. Two of maybe the top four teams in the world could only score once against us. Bruno has practically made us the meanest defence in the PL. Jeff has to step up and give Bruno what he needs in January. If he does, a very good second half of the season may be in prospect. If he doesn’t, Bruno may be courted by other clubs.
How can one take heart, our two latest matches played in our own half as have other games such as Leeds. We have a truly great defence but what of scoring, an inabilty throughout last season too. Raul has played 1,350 minutes up until today scoring 3 goals, thats one every 450 minutes. So he scores once every 7 and a half hours . Oh yeh add todays 45 mins to that total. Yet Fabiolous gets 34 minutes of PL football, over the same period when he could have done no worse by being used more.. Not enjoying this football drudgery now its not top 6 as the performance chasm between us and the top has shown.
Defence comes first. Bruno has done wonders. We are hard to beat. The second half of the season will see the lack of goals rectified as long as Bruno is backed in the January window. An attacking midfielder is a priority. Football drudgery? We actually played some great football today at times. Kilman’s superb header deserved a goal. He should have been MOTM.
Kilman or Coady MOM for me.
It would have hit the crossbar.
Think it was Lee Mason who Nuno wrote a report on saying he can’t control a game in the Prem and that he didn’t want him in charge at future Wolves games. Funnily enough I have to say I haven’t seen him for a while officiating.
Gladiolah’s comments pissed me off, Wolves didn’t come to play football!
Well what were Citeh players doing when they were consistently bringing down Traore? Was that football? Maybe those professional fouls or plain thuggery were stopping Wolves playing football!
I’d like to see more attacking intent though from Wolves. The nil goals column is not good, somehow he has to get Podence in the starting line up because he seems the one man who can pick a pass that leads to goals.
But it’s frustrating at the moment. Ultimately it’s not the ref’s fault, yes they’re pretty poor and the accusation that they’re biased can stand. But our shortcomings in the goal scoring department needs serious attention from Mr Lage.
Sa, Semedo, Kilman, Coady, Saiss, Ait-Nouri.
Step forward and collect your Solid Gold DOOGooder Crosses for valour in the face of continuous enemy fire.
Absolutely brilliant!
And the rest of the team, barring one obvious exception, deserve medals of honour for their grit and determination against all the odds (and portly whistle blowers and VAR).
Raul will not get any sweets and be banished to the naughty step for the rest of the weekend.
What WAS going on in his head?
And a special mention to our away fans for keeping up their constant support. Who was the home team?
I said in my pre match comment that, never mind the result, I will be happy if we replicate the sort of performance we gave against Liverpool.
We did.
I’m not happy because, once again, we’ve been cheated out of a point.
But I am immensely proud.
“portly”
Why do you always choose the best word?
Love it
Best form of defense……well it’s not sitting back letting your opponent pour all over you
Same against Liverpool…….where the fight and attacking football we saw on the first three games at least we had a go and lost and not just waited for the inevitable defeat.
Bruno needs to let the players off there leash…….shades of Nuno the last 2 games.
Get a grip. Two fortunate goals and a rather ridiculous sending off prevented us getting at least two points against possibly the best two attacking teams in Europe. Even with 10 men, Max could and maybe should have got an equaliser close to the end.
Oh yes, you are correct. We should have gone hell for leather and come away with a couple of four goal defeats.
Did we loss 4.0 against Spurs and Utd……We lost by the same scoreline as today and against Liverpool …….. difference being we put up a fight … Not park the bus and hope to get a draw.
Get a grip.
Spurs and Man Utd are nowhere near the same standard as Liverpool and Man City. If you disagree take a look at the league table. Get a grip.
You are right they are not and I didn’t say they were……but we should have beaten both of them we were very unlucky……but we had a go and on another day could have come away with all 3 points
Ever heard of the saying ” fortune favours the brave ” or ” you make your own luck ” well we just set up to defend in the hope…. yes hope that we would survive to get a point.
Villa beat Liverpool because they had ago and so did West Ham and Palace. .and there was no reason we couldn’t do the same… except Bruno hadn’t the balls
From your user name, you loved the Kenny Miller goal and result v Man U. From memory, we parked the bus and scored with our only attack that day!
Yeah we did in fact that was Micks tatics c most of that season………….and where did it get us……Relegated…….negative approaches to anything never ends with a positive out come.
Dave Jones’ tactics . Mick was later.
Spot on m8 today was a depressing bottom of the league team performance set up to draw as with the Liverpool game. Brilliant defence but nothing ahead of them to be excited by.
Perhaps I’m missing something, but what has the Glasgow to Edinburgh motorway got to do with this particular discussion? Maybe you are looking to pick up Kenny Miller, Alex Rae and Colin Cameron so that they can add a new dimension to the team?
Kilman yet again absolutely top drawer defender. The heroics of all of the defence get top marks from me.
Raul in the heat of the moment put us more on the back foot than we already were, you feel for him but he should have taken himself away from the situation.
I hate us playing so much on the back foot and I’m desperate to see a goal, you’ve got to hope we can work hard in all areas of the pitch on Wednesday and get 3 points. It’s becoming a hard watch but maybe that’s because we’ve played two of the best sides. But then Norwich and Burnley added to the mix, is there a bigger issue?
Be interesting to see if Lage trusts Silva to lead the line v Brighton. If he doesn’t play then what are we going to do with him?
He clearly didn’t see him as an answer today. Disappointed today, It should be a fascinating watch on Wednesday night. I expect nothing less than a convincing win, they should take confidence from the spirit they’ve shown in the last two games. Maybe we will get a decision or two and a goal or three.
Here’s to a change in fortunes, got to happen soon has it not?
Genuinely don’t understand the decision to tke Adama off for Hwang. The man had already got 2 city defenders booked, carried the ball forward several times, can hold up the ball better than Hwang and is far more of a physical presence.
We were left in a hole because of Rauls red but Adama looked, to me at least, like the only way we’d hurt the city defence. Bringing him off straight after the penalty that never was was a mistake in my opinion.
I agree, he was our only chance of getting the playing field back to level numbers as he had already drawn 2 bookings because City know he is the main threat but even with ten men our best chance of of pulling one back against the run of play would have been a solo run from Traore.
RAUL you are a pillock.
Ref you are as fat and slow as me.
Kilman, Cody, Saiss and Ait Nouri you are all strong.
Sterling you are a prat.
Shi you are required to buy.
5 out of 5.
Plus 5 bonus points for item no 5.
COINCIDENCE OR CONSPIRACY? City. Liverpool. Chelsea. The top 3. All winning their games with dodgy penalties. None of which overturned by VAR. Is that penalty today given in tge City box ? If it is VAR will rule it out. No doubt. No doubt at all.
And now Manure are given one as well with Ronaldo already falling over looking for it. The corrupt Ref duly obliges. Shocking. Beginning to wish we were back in division 3. This just stinks.
Ronaldo sort of JUMPED backwards when he felt contact. Should have had a yellow for reverse diving.
Is it now mandatory that only one Wolves player can wear an head bandage?
Sterling is a dirty, diving has-been.
Citeh know many dark arts and the fat ref was easily conned.
During the second half a citeh player stood in front of a Wolves free kick, why was he not sent off or booked for this infringement?
For those who were obliged to watch it in the telly……. Sterling MOTM ?
He was alright but why the compunction to give it to the winning side ?
Coady, Kilman, Sa, Ait Noury were all more worthy of the award, imo.
Oh, I just remembered.
“I don’t like Wolves….”
None of us can argue with our wonderful team spirit, nor the brilliance of our defense. Kilman has matured into magnificent very accomplished defender, and in Sa we have one of the best keepers in the Premiership.
Yes, the penalty decision against us was nothing less than ridiculous, yet again seeming to suggest that VAR is being deliberately manipulated in favor of the bigger teams. But the reality is we deserved to lose the game. From the outset we never played to win: only not to lose. Is this what we are really all about ?
The uncomfortable fact is that we`ve scored just one goal in the last six games, three of which were against modest opposition. It is surely the case that if this blatant shortcoming is not addressed very quickly, then we`re going to be in big trouble as the season develops.
Yes, Bruno, you have every right to expect Mr Shi to support you in January. But surely you also need to begin reassess your own tactics.
The 2 bore draws against Burnley and Norwich are starting to look very costly.
And 12 goals in 16 matches simply isn’t good enough. Only Norwich have scored less.
Two of the best teams in the world have only just scraped 1-0 wins but that’s why they are in that position, quality players in every position twice over, effective coaching and finding ways to turn over stubborn massed defences.
In recent years we have beaten Liverpool, Man City, Man Utd. and Chelsea by scoring more goals than them over 90 minutes but our squad doesn’t look strong enough now and the first XI can’t buy a goal at the moment. Scoring nil against Norwich and Burnley is the bigger issue than escaping with 0-1 against the top teams.
Kilman was outstanding again today, how could he not be MoTM?
Kilman can’t be MOTM ‘cos he doesn’t play for Citeh. Keep up!
Pep Guardiola’s derogatory remarks are annoying. Competitive football is about many things, attack and defence and Wolves defended admirably, restricting Man City to 1 goal.
In truth, no one can dispute that the best team won today, but that only tells a part of the story. The manner of the loss is frustrating. The penalty against Moutinho was dubious at best. It hit his torso, under his armpit. If that is now handball, then the rules need to be changed to reflect that. How else can it hit that part of the body if your arm is not raised. I’m sure had the boot been on the other foot, City would have been aggrieved had the decision gone against them.
Raul’s red card was foolish, and wholly avoidable but so so soft. The original yellow was questionable but every team in every game do the same thing to slow down the free kick. That said, Jimenez should not have done what he did. Not after receiving a yellow seconds earlier. Foolish, but he has so much credit in the bank for what he has achieved and what he has gone through, he should be forgiven in a heart beat.
After the red card it felt that the result was a forgone conclusion. Wolves should be proud of their resilience and defence and whilst zero points is no consolation, many pundits were predicting a thrashing. That didn’t materialise and says a lot about the strength of our defence.
However, our attack is toothless. No goals in four games and one of the lowest scoring teams in the league is a worry and a problem that requires solving urgently. It’s simply not good enough. Our attacking players need to step up and Bruno needs backing this January and in the Summer.
Most importantly, thank goodness neither Kilman, who was immense again, nor Neves were seriously hurt. Every time there is a clash of heads my thoughts go back to that November night last year at the Emirates.
Sort out the forward play and score more. The rest will come. There’s no shame in losing 1-0 against one of the best and most expensively assembled teams in the world, away from home.
UTW
So now mank utd win with a dubious penalty !!!!!
That is every so called top team today winning via a penalty !!!
If this system isn’t as bent as sept blatter then my uncle is my auntie …and he isn’t !!!
Corruption is hitting in the face and we as in the case of blatter havent a prayer of proving it .
I hope i live long enough to see it proven and the bent tv bastards who are ruining football are hung out to dry .
So blatant it’s time to call in the fraud squad.
Same with the application and interpretation of VAR. I still go back to the Neto goal against Liverpool when they took minutes to find a frame where Jonny’s toe offside and the eight minutes it took to find a “clear and obvious” reason to give Man City a penalty at Molineux. Both within a coupe of weeks.
Yes. And i believe we are bottom of the VAR league for a third consecutive season. It makes me wonder whats going on.
The decisions today were as corrupt as corruption could be…
Never a penalty… Rodri should’ve received a second yellow and been sent off…
Sterling is and always will be a diving little shit….. Sterling’s swipe at Saiss should have been Yellow verging in Red…
John Moss, Andre Mariner are truly corrupt and I hope they enjoy their Xmas after opening their lovely fat brown bung money envelopes…
I dislike Sterling as much as the next reasonably rational person but that was hardly a swipe at Saiss. It was more like our Romaine trying to get his own back for their touchline altercation just a few minutes before when Sterling did his Tom Daley impression.
Hope one noticed that the linesman, who was directly facing Moutinho didn’t blink an eyelid, raise his flag for a handball… nothing.
Yet Tubby, who is not in the best position does…..!!
And as for the dross given by the VAR lot that they couldn’t find a frame to justify overturning the original decision…. Unbelievable…
Man City awarded penalty and win.
Liverpool awarded penalty and win.
Man utd awarded penalty and win
Chelsea awarded 2 pens and win.
Now tell me the Prem league isn’t corrupt?
Now tell me the premier league is not corrupt, bias and darn right rigged.
We came to park the bus, which is sad, but that is down to our disinterested owners, we were 2nd best, but, what can you expect from a billionaire squad.
For me, today was 100 % why I hate the Premier league.
Travesty.
I didn’t bother to predict a score, before the game, as I knew Tom Daley (Sterling) and his coherts, plus any ref would do their best to ensure Shitty would win.
Peed off from Marnhull.
When you enter the temple of international corruption, you play by Twatihad rules. They know their stuff, bent refs, moving goalposts, VA fookin R. You gotta admire the brassuns on Pep as he boils the spirit of the game down to a few shekels and a bag of pork scratchings. Desperate stuff.
We’re not the only ones in the ‘aggrieved of the premier league’ club tho. So we have to take it on the chin and move along. It was always going to be tough day out.
Did some one seriously suggest we go after Deli Ali the other day? I just don’t get it. We’ll do well to hang on to Kilman let alone buy in quality upgrades on what we have. You can’t buy yourself a team. We can all play footy, but it’s the team that make it work. From the coach, the captain, groundstaff, up and down. Support is what we do.
Hey Santa, I want a goal. 1lv & COYW.
A superb backs to the wall performance, to a man, from Wolves.
So many things for them to overcome, including that horrible clash of heads. And then there was that penalty that never was.
I have no need to forgive Raul for his little aberration, as he has plenty of credit in the bank. My take on it is that he was so immersed in the moment, trying to defend from the front, that he wasn’t thinking logically. With hindsight, there should perhaps have been a cool head to momentarily pull him aside after that first booking.
January should be interesting in terms of reinforcements. The squad is threadbare and we desperately need another centre back and a striker. Maybe Fabio will be given another chance on Wednesday?
Do we really need another centre back? Surely, our middle three have proved just how effective they are in the last two games. Then we have big Willy, Mosquera and Dendoncker can fill in and so can Marcal who had a number of games for Lyon at centre half. A quality midfielder, who can chip in with goals is surely the priority. They don’t grow on trees however so I’m not holding my breath.
If I were a centre back, I wouldn’t be jumping at the chance to come to wolves with the competition here atm.
We also have hoever who plays there too.
Midfield is where we are stretched, not sure mgw is the answer but you never know!
I’d like two midfielders, one big nasty bastard who can carry the ball and intimidate opponents and I’d send trincoa back.
Utw
What a shitshow from all the refs of the corrupt six club.
Wolves fans were brilliant, we don’t need var intervention to confirm that, we won – simple.
Enter the young prince @ Brighton ( never a dull moment eh)
Utw
Big game wednesday, at the moment we are a midtable club, fosun must invest jan, if silva does not play wednesday, thats a sign bruno does not rate him, no sitting back , no disrepect its brighton, wolves aie we!
Just seen the penalty again on MOTD and im fuming even more. Incredulous. Can only mean they are actually corrupt. The ball is 6 inches away at least from the arm / hand. What is the point of VAR ? CORRUPTION.
Two 1.0 losses but clear we can defend exceptionally well and lady luck not with us at the moment. Please to hear Alan Shearer and Martin Keown on BBC both stating emphatically that the penalty should never have been awarded as footage clearly showed the ball hit Moutinho on the ribs! VAR dubiously claim the evidence was not clear enough to overrule a poor ref. Both pundits also clear that Raul should not have been booked (first yellow) for the challenge!
Interesting to see how we line up at Brighton without Raul suspended
The thought is that Raul should not have been booked for his tackle on crybaby, therefore the second yellow should have been his first, and not a sending off.
If this not appealled, then there are no balls in our management.
And yes, I did suggest Delli Alli might be a good fit.
A chance to resurrect his career, coz we know he can play a bit, and a fresh, post Nuno incomer.
Any potential recruit has to be sold on the club’s vision and ambition, just like wot Nuno and Mendes did with Neves, Boly, Jota, Moutinho, Patricio and Raul.
It can be done, and there must be others out there, chomping for more playing time, who would also relish a chance to play Prem footie regularly.
Hopefully whatever scouting system we have is doing it’s job properly, good players have been identified and brown envelopes., or white ones, stuffed with pictures of Her Maj, passed to the appropriate parties.
Like wot the referees boys club do.
I don’t think that the rules allow appeals against a sending off for two yellows so it will be nothing to do with the management having balls or not.
Deli Ali has failed to impress under several managers at Spurs, maybe if we got him on loan so we could send him back if/when he fails to fit but personally i think he’s a squad player at this level who lacks the consistency to play regularly. He hasn’t featured since the early Nuno days. Can we have Doc back though?
Might have known! The font of summit WWFC.
Hang on, I’m off to the restroom to resurrect an opinion.
I suppose Deli could give our Fabio tips on looking good centerfield, haidressers, mancare products, eau de cologne and how to warm a bench properly. Plus that truly appalling Tom Daley that won it for Spuds.
I wouldn’t swap you a Moutinho for 3 Deli’s. Plus he would cost us a Traore. I don’t think Conte wants a Traore so it would have to be $$$.
He would have to go through a rigourous effort assessment before we let him anywhere near the Mol.
Look Nuno built a top 7 Euro team, and arguably we are, bar the injuries to Jimi and Neto, the sale of Jota and some dodgy investment deals, still that team but struggling to get a post Nuno foot in. Granted it seems a long time ago. This season will tell us alot about the future and you know what it looks like when it goes down the pan. That could be it for another 30 years. Just ask the Addicts.
1 lv & COYW.
If Nuno got sacked for a bang average season last year, will they do the same to Bruno being as there hasn’t really been any improvement in our style of play from an entertaining perspective. We can build on a solid defence but only if we keep the players we have and add a couple of higher quality ones in midfield and attack but that would take investement and faith in the manager? They have already said we need to sell to buy and i’m not sure they will have faith in Bruno if we finish mid table playing this way.
Yes BHW. Its a tite rope.
The team has some good performances in it, but lacks a hammer to finish the job. What to do? Ride out the season, pray for better than being the next Burnley. We might get some good $$ offa the Magpies for Traore? 1 lv.
True dat Rasta. They’ll be desperate so will happily pay over the odds and give him the contract he wants. Not sure he’d go though knowing that there’s more than a high probability he’ll be playing in the Championship next season. Could he block the move?
Traore is just one of the frustrating elements about this transition phase at Wolves. Youm right, forgot the relegation battle they’ll be in and probs relegation to follow. But Eddie will be looking for something in Jan & that 4-0 at the foxes might tip it over the edge. Like everyone else down to 16th we are now desperate for a win and some points to keep us afloat. If you want to see what spending money and having no team looks like, ask the Toffees. 1 lv.
Not much more to add to what is already stated– the big three get through on very dubious penalties, and add Ronaldo’s pathetic soft penalty, what can we say? I tell you what, I have changed my mind, I now support the European super league and good f******g riddance, let “the big six” go and wallow in their self importance. Just go, you cheating bastards!
on a slightly different topic, I don’t mind defending with heart against Man C and Liverpool but after the Norwich and Burnley’s games, I for one will NOT accept a defensive effort against Brighton on Wednesday! We must revert to the plan of the first three games we certainly must be far more aggressive and attacking. No matter the opponents 1 goal in 6 games is relegation form, and to be honest very difficult to watch.
The next game is not a “must win” but it is very much a “must attack” or else Bruno AND Jeff Shi will certainly start to lose support.
On that point if Jeff Shi does not arrange a few transfers during the coming window, our main stars may very well push to leave in the summer as it will appear that the club has stagnated and has lost its ambition!
Spot Saint, spot on.
If a football team is a jigsaw then we are just a couple of pieces away from it being complete.
Liverpool and Man City are not normal teams so we shouldn’t judge ourselves against our performances against them. every other team in the league tries to hang in as best they can. We’re hanging in better than most.
VAR Is in nonsense. It only seems to apply when it suits the referee. Every week the rules governing its use appear to be adjusted which means when the bloke looking at the screen can’t be arsed to do his job properly. Why on earth the ref isn’t asked to walk to the side of the pitch to take another look when the decision is so obviously Contentious.
And don’t tell me it’s because it slows the game down because it’s not like it happens 10 times in a games. There were maybe a couples of instances today in total.
There is no shame in losing to Liverpool or Citeh but I can’t help feeling – we was robbed!
Like many others I have come to the conclusion that the Premier League is institutionally corrupt. Instruction sheets must be sent to very ref before the game detailing the result that they MUST make sure becomes fact.
Evidence
1. That sending off of Raul for two yellow cards. The first was barely a foul let alone a bookable offence.
2. That so called penalty nowhere near is hand/arm
3. Ronaldo’s back flip, worthy of Tom Daley. to cheat a penalty at Norwich.
I could go on but the blood pressure will only go through the roof.
I know we need reinforcements in January, and I am convinced we will get some. What is the point of Fosun’s investment if we don’t.
In the meantime I am bloody proud of my team, they are at least a team.
My first ever Wolves game was in 1949 – 50 season…We used to score goals in those day’s
Character
Guts
Sheer stubbornness.
Lage has exceeded what i expected from this squad. Just a couple of aggressive midfielders to take the pressure off the defence and we would have drawn yesterday if not have won.
Well done the boys!
I was livid about that penalty that shouldn’t have been.
Clear as blinking daylight and I reckon Moss just didn’t want to be proved wrong.
I also noticed poor Norwich lost by a penalty to Man U too… why am I so sceptical when it comes to referees and the top teams?
Our defence were heroes, the whole lot of them… and Kilman’s near chance at the other end, when we were strikerless, made him my man of the match without a doubt.
Ok, so I’m biased. One has to be in the face of adversity.
Wolverhampton forever…
Probably because the top x6 European league wannabes own the league.
Still rather be the Wolves every time.
Fantastic fans , loud and proud every game and a genuine football club ?
Great comment…..and an even better piccy.
Its my passport photo wolf
Note that I’m not smiling and its a neutral background..
Don’t understand why the nice Spanish policeman wanted me to undress..
As hard as it is, I have to admit I was wrong.
Prior to its introduction, I was actually in favour of VAR. Tired of frequent mistakes by refs being highlighted by the slo-mo cameras on TV. I was convinced by the argument that VAR would take away the injustice of the refs instant and sometimes incorrect judgement. Take away the failings of the mere human in black.
Within a few weeks of its introduction however, doubts were already setting in. I quickly found that my goal celebrations were being rammed down my throat by some dork taking minutes to decide the scorer’s bootlace had flopped into an offside position ten minutes previous. Seriously folks, I don’t celebrate our goals now, at all, until the game kicks off again. (not relevant lately, I know).
However, the problem now has morphed into the dark world of the blatantly corrupt. At least when the man in the middle made the call, you could convince yourself he’d made an honest mistake, like I had when I supported its introduction in the first place. But now, the corruption is there in plain sight. Clear for all to see. Irrefutable.Those denying it now can only be part of the same corrupt system.
It’s sickening what they’re doing to our beautiful game.
Raul was silly. Kilman is an absolute star. As are Ait Nouri, Coads……all of ’em really.
If we’d have taken them on at their own game, we’d have been panned. They play like they do because they buy who they want, irrespective of price, wages, FFP. Frankly,I’m glad we don’t do that. I probably took more pride in my team yesterday than yer average city fan ’cause I know my boys played out of their skins, against all the odds and were cheated out of their reward in the end.
While it was 0-0, or 1-0, we were in with a shout. I’ll take that against the massed ranks of the Premier Leagues vested interests.
Same here Stroker, i was in favour of it coming in for the same reasons, to correct the inevitable human error and redress the balance of the bigger teams getting most of the calls. All VAR has done is give a veneer of credibility to the biased refereeing. As you say, it’s corruption in plain sight. The fact that a murderous regime can now own a football club and is deemed fit and proper by the powers that be says all we need to know. Refs are relatively easy targets for blackmail and bribery when there is this much money at stake with such powerful corrupt people owning clubs.
Couldn’t have put it better mate.
It sometimes makes me think “Why do I bother watching football anymore when I know that any questionable decision will go the way of the so called Big Six?”
As you know only too well, it costs time and money to attend matches and, when you are constantly cheated by a corrupt system, it starts to seem like it’s time and money not well spent.
Yup and the prices just keep going up. The snake will eat it’s tail at some point.
Hear hear. Absolutely bang on mate.
Thanks buddy. I’m not angry. I’m too used to it for that.
Just depressed.
VAR again making sure the big 6 stay that way. I get that those teams will get more VAR decisions because of the gulf in resources that they will tend to be on the front foot in most games. But that’s not where the problem lies. It’s the fact that whenever there is a controversial decision / “mistake” it goes in favour of the big 6 side. Liverpool we’re always going to get loads of extra time last week and city we’re always going to get a penalty today. That was a horrendous decision but what recourse do wolves have. There needs to be an official complaints procedure against the ref and VAR official with a temporary ban from games for those found to be in the wrong.
I’m not a big Formula 1 fan, but I’ve just witnessed the biggest carve up since the last VAR decision went against us.
What the f**k was that all about?
Nor me Doog but blimey, Lewis Hamilton has just been shafted good and proper, how can a safety car wipe out an 11 second lead?
Answer, the same way VAR was introduced to stop clear and obvious errors and then doesn’t.
Very tough on Lewis.
He was winning 5-0 , then the Australian bloke who is in charge of the game said, ok, next goal wins
Farce !
I suppose the media mover and shakers just wanted the new guy to win .
Oh , and the cricket was shit too ! Roll on Brighton
Utw
And west ham who are no big draw on the tv pay per view circuit same as us have had a cast iron penalty denied against bloody burnley of all teams.
AND COMING UP ON THE RAILS (YET AGAIN) …..YES … ARSENAL .
Ready to take their rightful place in the top six .
Think back when wolves were pushing into the top six and were in danger of establishing themselves decision after decision went against us until low and behold after one of the worst seasons they had ever had in the premier league up popped arsenal to somehow finish in the top six and get european football.
Andre mariner must have had something to do with that mind blowing formula one decision what a complete joke and he specialises in those .
Bloke in the pub just showing a photo of Andre Marriner (VAR yesterday) in his Villa shirt in the Villa end at the play off final Wembley a couple of years ago. Doing the rounds on facebook.
While I hold no brief for referees, I do think that the present situation puts them at serious risk of accusations of corruption that could well trigger action through the courts. Ex-ref Chris Foy has explained that it was correct for the Moutinho penalty to stand because none of the views showed clearly enough that John Moss had been wrong. MOTD didn’t seem to have had the same problem. In other words VAR has double standards. For offside it looks for a FACT – was the player offside – and it pursues this end to ridiculous lengths, drawing lines and splitting hairs. “It may only have been your a millimetre, but he was offside”. For penalties they are giving an OPINION – was the decision clearly and obviously wrong. The aren’t even looking at the facts they are giving an opinion about the original decision and in this are surely leaving themselves wide open to a legal challenge if their input costs the club money – say if a bad VAR decision puts them out of the cup. If VAR is set up as an arbiter it surely has a duty to perform to a ‘reasonable’ standard and not to show bias. It can’t be too long before somebody makes a legal challenge about whether they are doing this.
IMO the F1 was a perfect example.58 laps and the result is entirely decided by a decision made by the officials. Neither driver could affect the result once the decision had been made. LH was either going to have a nice steady final lap or he was not going to be able to keep the lead. The result was decided by the officials and not either of the drivers. And we thought VAR was bad!!!
Have just noticed that on “Caught Offside” ex Ref Keith Hackett is advising Messrs Moss and Marriner to start picking up their pensions after their unacceptable decision.
VAR was introduced in 2019-2020 to ensure that a team like ( sneer) Leicester City will never again embarrass the established status quo.
EUFA (Platini, ha ha ha) introduced FFP to ensure only rich clubs can buy the best /expensive players.
So many sponsors now. Shirt -front, back, arm, number. Shorts. Socks?
Players want to win trophies so they have to join a big 6 club (Grealish, Kane-next).
Isn’t Kane supposedly at a big 6 club?
… Jota… mustn’t forget him.
Oh Raul….una neblina roja? My Spanish translator won’t do brainfart,,….but it does offer
el stupido…I’ll stay with red mist. No excuse, whatever the rights or wrongs of the first yellow. What was he thinking? Or mabe that was it ..he wasn’t and who knows what the second half could have been if he’d stayed on the pitch?
Meantime surely any VAR decision that takes longer than one minute ought to automatically require the referee to view the pitch side monitor? He was behind the play and couldn’t see the angle that TV pictures showed. Then again wasn’t Moss the ref that Nuno complained about being unfit to referee the PL?
So we must move on…. but without trying to score in a game we won’t score. So come back soon Neto and join Podence ( and a recalled MGW?) in creating better opportunities for our forwards than lofted crosses into the box.
Delighted to see the ever improving Kilman and Ait-Nouri becoming serious talents in the team.
Yes I’d take a new marauding midfielder who can tackle pass shoot and create,…..its on my list for Santa. Doubt we will uncover one in January however.
As for who leads the line vs Brighton? The Young Prince needs a run out…more on that later this week.
OODCL
VAR XMAS SPECIAL:
Leicester away ruled out ‘handball’ Boly
Leicester away (Kilman) ‘handball’ penalty
Leicester home offside goal ruled out Neto
Liverpool away VVD handball missed. Liverpool attacker given handball. VAR overturn. Goal.
Liverpool away. Neto goal. 10 mins spent analysis. Jonny ‘offside’ by a freckle
Man City home . City player goes down. No pen. VAR. Pen. Pen saved. VAR. Coady big toe in area. Encroachment. Pen re taken . Goal.
Shit home. Player tackle 6 inches outside box. Review. Penalty.
Shit defender plays basketball in 6 yard box. No VAR.
Arsenal away. TV shows Adama legit upended in box . Penalty. Ref BOOKS Adama for diving.
Palace away. Ait Nouri tripped inside box. VAR. No penalty.
Man City away. Pen against Moutinho. VAR fails to see it wasn’t.
Merry xmas and fuck off.
I think you missed a few (or more)!
I know you missed a hell of a lot more…. but here’s another …
Trincao wiped out v MAN U (h) …. at 0 v 0
What’s happened to punishing simulation…
James Maddison auditioning for Swan Lake…. Yesterday.
Maddison is a serial offender.
Please add Away to Burnley, leading 1-0, 94th minute, corner to Burnley. Chris Wood attempts overhead scissors kick. Misses ball. Doherty instinctively protects his face. Dean blows for the free kick to Wolves……No! What a minute…. Penalty to Burnley! Outcome? Wolves finish 7th behind Tottenham who qualify for Europa League.
Oh yes. Was it the Liverpool goalie who wiped Semedo out at Molineux ? Probably a penalty and a sending off but nothing. Once again Ref/VAR nowhere to be seen.
sterling up for SPOTY….
depends on the sport but against wolves he would have got 6.0/6.0/6.0 from me.
I remember the incident but can’t be sure it was the keeper..
Don’t matter, they’re all a bunch of low life, cheating, slime ball mo fo’s.
I bin drinkin’, like wot my mate Stilton does, on rare occasions.
Fowb