I found that game maddening even before Semedo’s horror show.
We played like the away side, allowing Villa to dictate the play and just sat in waiting to break.
On another day, yes, Fabio’s effort goes in off the post or one of Dendoncker’s finds a way past Martinez, but a narrow win instead of a narrow defeat wouldn’t have changed my view on the performance.
If we’re going to play with one less body in defence, we have to see more of the ball further forward and be more proactive in our attacking play.
I know Nuno believes you can control a game without the ball, but I felt we were stretched too many times by Villa and a moment would always arrive.
Typically it came via the last kick of the game, with our Barcelona full-back getting the wrong side and stupidly piling into McGinn.
I wanted to believe Semedo would improve but you’re increasingly watching his performances behind your hands, waiting for that moment of implosion.
Surely now is the time to giver Hoever a run in the side?
Much like Coady’s brain fart last week, we simply can’t keep giving teams presents when our own Goals For column is so laughably sub-par.
And why were we defending so desperately anyway?
With Villa down to 10 they were just lobbing diagonals into the corners as gold shirts repeatedly failed to clear.
The initial foul by Coady to allow them up the pitch and build to the penalty incident was idiotic, barging into Watkins with him pinned to the touchline.
It’s all these fine margins that the players just aren’t quite getting right.
Fabio was a positive for me, who showed enough in his overall play to suggest he can be a useful player.
Will he replace what Raul gives us? Absolutely not.
But there’s movement and tenacity that suggests he could get a few goals to ease us through a difficult moment.
And it’s going to get very difficult this month with a series of horrid looking fixtures.
We need to buckle-up and get ready, because I fear it’s getting worse before it gets better.
Missed the game as the wife has been really poorly but doesn’t sound like we were at the starting post let alone the races.
Still keeping the faith
Utw
Buying Semedo and Silva for a combined 60-70 million is a complete sham. Mendez sold Wolves down the river, and Nuno made a huge error of judgement.
We have needed a dominant centre midfielder and genuine centre forward to compete/support and play with Raul. Players have been out there BUT not in Mendez’s books.
I disagree. Silva should be a once in a generation player. I think Semedo is an upgrade on Doc.
Please explain how Semedo is an upgrade. To my eyes, he can’t defend as well and he’s certainly not anywhere near as much of a goal threat. Doherty ‘s link up play with the forwards was excellent while Semedo has yet to develop a similar understanding.
Ben
I’ve been pilloried as a turncoat for saying the same as-you get 7 upvotes for. In a minority of about one but I quite like Semedo but not as a conventional RB. Sold down the river 100% over Jota and to add insult to injury undersold – £40 million was daylight robbery.
JM has done us a lot of good but now it’s payback time-and we were warned. It’s long overdue for Wolves to loosen the ties they have with Mendes and Gestitute but that’s up to Fosun to sort out if they want to.
I remember reading Barcelona fans views in Semedo. Very much mixed feedback, but most did say he was prone for glaring errors.
When Jonny is fit all will be well if he plays right back, and will show how poor Semedo is. It’s hard to believe a player bought from Barcelona can be so unconvincing.
You are right about Fosun’s relationship with Mendez, a relationship that needs re-balancing. A difficult proposition, given Mendez can unveil some gems (eg Neto).
Finally….the penny dropped.Ben been saying that for months glad other fans are finally….seeing the truth.
Sorry Thomas just can’t agree about Fabio. He’s much too lightweight and has yet to learn when to make decisive runs inside the box. Example that early opportunity when he missed out on anticipating Neto’s cross and hid behind the defender instead. He needs time and that’s something that we can’t afford to give at the moment.
Maybe we didn’t deserve to lose but you certainly can’t say that we deserved to win. Midfield again was anonymous and we really did need three bodies in the middle of the park.
Semedo reminds me of Saiss earlier in the season, ie an accident waiting to happen.
It’s going to be a long hard winter without what I see as two necessary acquisitions in January, ie a midfielder who can exert some control on the game ( and score) and a centre forward who can bully central defenders (and score).
The game needs breaking down into its constituent parts. Nobody really had a bad game. Despite his major cock-up at the end Semedo looked pretty good too.
Silva is going to be a class act but despite showing some promise he’s no Raul. At his age and physique he’s too lightweight to lead the line week in week out at this level. To challenge for the top six this season which is still a possibility we will need a proven number 9 in January.
Defensively overall we were pretty good as were Dendonker and Moutinho. The three supporting attackers played there parts too, we just lacked that something special that Raul adds.
You can argue all day about formations but it’s players that ultimately win games and today we were lacking a game changer.
The team that looked great … mostly …had Jimenez, Jota , Jonny and Doherty
We should not b surprised to see our current struggles
That said Nuno needs to fix the issues not least the lack of goals
OODCL I hope
I guess I’m on an island here. But, I think Semedo has been pretty good for us…especially going forward.
He’s supposed to be a defender first and foremost though, Lou.
He did make a good headed clearance at the far post but also let Grealish waltz round him in the first half. Basically he’s just not solid and many hours on the training ground are going to be necessary to iron out his deficiencies. Not something that we should be saying about a £25m plus defender in his mid twenties. At least Fabio is a raw youngster still learning the game.
See…I thought he quietly handled Grealish very well.
I’m not panicking. I think this squad is an upgrade over last year all in all .
I think the side we had today was perfect. – at least for the players we have. Though, I’m not in the camp that thinks Moutinho and Neves shouldn’t play together – especially when we have an AM on the field.
I think things will come together. We obviously need goals. But, the players we have in forward positions are creating opportunities…just need to finish.
Question. Is he being played because he cost so much that it would be an embarrassment to leave him out and admit to a huge error ? Or is he in because he`s Portuguese. ?
Either way, it seems to me that its time to let him cool his heels on the sidelines . The key necessity of a defender has to be the ability to defend adequately and consistently. This guy can`t defend. Period.
Surely its time to give the Dutch guy his chance.
Two average sides ! SIlva a lightweight, a boy playing a mans game ! Feel sorr
Feel sorry forNuno probs feels has to play him at that cost 35m a joke !
It’s all about taking your chances, fine margins granted. But we had chances and I think if we have had Jeminez on the pitch he would’ve got on the score sheet, Keeper did play well and you’ve gotta give him credit for that he kept them in the game.
I still think we need at least 3 players to come in January. Attacking midfielder , Striker, c/back.
Think we could struggle to get a win unless we beat Burnley, tough ask at the mo. Gutted.
We’re not getting three players in January.
And, I’m going to get crap for this…I know. I thought Silva was a lively player. Gets more involved than Jimenez. There have been a couple of games this year where Raul couldn’t be found all game (but, scored a goal…which is kind of important).
If we give up on Silva, he’ll be a superstar somewhere else
There was a good number of shots on goal, but if you kick at the keeper don’t be surprised if he saves. Just one of those strikes away from centre could have gone in – shooting 1 0 1.
That wasn’t me, I use the correct turnimology an spellin.
I thought that the comments seemed rather sensible.
Well then it obviously wasn’t me!!
Well for what it is worth, I thought Podence and Neto both had great games and are really embedded in this team now. Not sure that Dendonker is producing the power that is needed though. All of his efforts of late, and not just today, I have found to be a bit “weak”. I am sure that his efforts have been a lot stronger before though so do not know what the problem is, if indeed there is one.
The young man Silva, is progressing well too.
So a last minute penalty gives Villa the win. I am not too upset …… really!!
Bring on Chelsea.
I’m with you Brompton. But, of course, we’ve defeated Trump – so, it will be difficult to put me in a bad mood
Why Nuno wants a small squad i do not understand again its come back to bite us no striker on the bench to call on. No midfielder who can get the ball drive forward and maybe score whitch Neves Dendonker or Motihino never seem to do. The chances we had if Jiminez was on we would have won no bother but that’s the problem having only one striker.
Can’t agree Dek. He’s got loads of players but they aren’t good enough. Campana, Jordao, Mir, Bonatini, Miranda, Cutrone come to mind immediately and any number of U23 players (you can make that list yourself). Some really useful purchases in that lot.
Jordao and Mir seem to be doing well.
Nuno doesn’t seem to want an attacking midfielder who attacks because he has two who seem to be at the same level as Fabio but won’t use them that way.
Tim
Off the top of my head a list of players who have been bought as first team candidates that Nuno doesn’t seem to consider “suitable”,
Jordao, Campana, Miranda, Cuitrone, Dashidov, Mir. Bonatini (hero 2017). Mathison, Vinagre, Vitinha. – c £50 million.
Several more have fallen by the wayside.
Did he ever want them?
Matheson? For goodness sake,
give Nuno a chance to play him. He’s even younger than Fabio!
And the rest?
Agreed, apart from Vitinha. Too early to say what Nuno thinks of him.
HS
Yep, will give you Matheson and Vitinha and desperately hope that they-both make it (and stay long enough to repay the faith if they do).
Very disappointing result but if we had won which we should we would not be moaning so much
Give Nuno his due he is trying to change things up so we are not so predictable it going to take time and I do think it will get worse before it gets better but that’s ok because everybody knows how to play against us now so we need to change all of the best teams do it
Silva had a good game I thought if that effort had gone in we would have won and he would have been the hero give him time for me Semedo looks poor maybe low on confidence? But seems to do something crazy each game and we cannot carry players especially when we don’t score many
Who else thinks we would have won if Raul was playing? Unfortunately Nuno has placed too much reliance on him and now we look lost going forward without him maybe he won’t play again this season and we need to find another solution because we won’t beat many teams with out a cutting edge
It was though better than last week!
In Nuno we trust!he will get it right
I said in the pre-match comments that Dondonker must put time in practicing headers (and shooting) and today was a perfect example of the problem. Three times in this game he headed/shot straight at the goalkeeper. We desperately need goals from midfield and the Donks has to come better.
Thought Fabio has a reasonable game, but he is no Rual, but no one else is there, so give a run to January. The problem is the scheduled games for us are mostly against top six, so we won’t be doing much attacking!
And another defensive mistake again,— we really should have won this game!
Back the three for Chelsea game for me
Back in the day 3 points from Arsenal away Liverpool away and Villa home would have been ok. So I ay gonna get too up or too down. It’s fine margins and it wasn’t going our way today. I just had a feeling they would nick it. And what a bunch of diving scrotes. Laughable moment of the day when was when Greasy accused Adama of diving and told him to get up. Penalty for that anyone? But we are Wolves and we dont get them do we. Dust ourselves down and get on with it. Should we go back to 3 at the back ? Nuno has built the whole club system on 343 352. Don’t know. Just putting it out there.
Here’s another laughable moment. Synchronized diving brought to the Premier League.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1337806016679981059
Thought I’d turned bbc1 on and stumbled on strictly c#cks diving
What a pair of girls
Good God, that was dreadful. Feel as flat as a pint of Greenall Whitley. Never mind, Chelsea next…
Keep the faith.
A quick summing up of the game.
Two bang average sides refereed by someone who should never be allowed to put a whistle to his lips again.
Mike Dean – the Jasper Carrot of referees – but without the laughs.
He got one decision spot on – the penalty. But it came as a consequence of an earlier break by Podence where he gave away a free kick for nearly having his head pulled off by Mings.
Apart from that, he seemed more interested in dishing out yellow and red cards. (Some justified).
A proud moment for him this afternoon when he issued his 3000th booking.
On the plus side, Neto and Podence were very good, Moutinho worked his socks off and Silva gave a good account of himself.
The Villa ‘keeper got Glenn Hoddle’s vote as man of the match but, apart from one very good stop, clinical strikers would have buried at least three of those chances.
We just don’t look like we are going to score.
And I’m getting a bit concerned.
C of D, “clinical strikers would have buried at least three of those chances”. You mean a striker who doesn’t shoot at the keeper?
Clinical strikers like Jota,
Yes. he’s gone and he hasn’t been replaced and that is not how you should run a progressive football club if you want continue to progress.
Let’s all hope the striker crisis is addressed properly in Jan.
Yes.
Not me again.
Tim, bugger off.
You made the point I was trying to make about Dendonker and others! Clinical finishing would have easily won us this game!! Very frustrating!
This season was the wrong time to try to change players and system .
An exhausting last season mentally and physically with virtually no time off for the players before this one started together with virtually no pre season at all and significant players leaving and coming in .Then the failure to have a proper back up for Jiminez comes home to roost .
It looks like a very transitional season but to what next season who knows .
The problem is not the system. It’s the players in the system. Podence and Neto played well up front and Silva did ok too but lacks physicality and of course, experience, for an 18 year old. Marcal and saiss also did ok. Coady looks better in a back 3 but also didn’t do too much wrong. Please don’t get me started on Semedo- anyone who thinks he is worth 35m must be smoking crack!. Midfield is also not cutting it – moutinho, neves and dendoncker all look like they’ve forgotten how to score.
Probably didn’t deserve to lose, but didn’t deserve to win either. A goalless draw would have befitted 2 very average sides whatever misapprehensions Villa supporters have about their false position. And I’ve always tried to keep an open mind about Grealish but all the accusations are right, HE IS A CHEAT.
As for our own performance – impotent again,
Encouraged by Fabio but he’s never worth over 75% of Jota’s value.
Apparently Traore has 0 goals / assists this season and Costa was pilloried for far better stats. He doesn’t look as if he wants to be here.
Like Thomas and others I’m really starting to worry about Semedo.. He does have class but it’s currently outweighed by his liability status.
Podence looks the part but still feel flatters to deceive.
Positives –
Neto plyed another blinder.
Marcal looks solid.
Patricio, Moutinho as ever
And yes Fabio.
Last word has to be for the consistently worst referee ever to “grace” English football with his presence.
Unless we can start scoring a lot more goals soon it’s going to be a long hard season folks.
Worst way to lose a game. I can’t remember (and I’ve got a long memory) the last time we won with a last minute penalty. Mike Dean has now given four last minute penalties against us in his usual theatrical style, admittedly Semedo made it easy for him. As did Saiss against City so the solution has to be the same, sit on the bench, watch and learn, wait for your chance to come round.
Even the optimists in the ranks can’t say we were robbed, Silva is not Raul either physically or mentally and it’s unfair to expect him to be an automatic replacement. We all think we’re expert coaches but Nuno has to go back to basics in my opinion, starting with a back three, Boly , Coady, Saiss. That’s our base for keeping a clean sheet and see what Santa Jorge can bring us in January.
Even before the penalty it was clear that Samedo was a weak link and constantly out of position defensively. Too many times Connor was pulled over to the touchline to cover for him. Nowhere near as good as Doherty. Someone tell me why we sold him and Jota?
Fabio too lightweight, too slow to see the spaces and make the runs .
This was a dire match by 2 poorish sides, make no mistake unless we get a like for like Raul replacement 1st January we are going to struggle this season.
And when did we start conceding last minute goals?
Rant over.
when we signed him my mate who’s been involved around the game for years said ‘that man is not very good and terrible defender ‘
I think we got carried away with where he came from.
I’d push him further forward.
Could be a better fit somewhere else.
Don’t anyway the albion lol
My take is that ours is a club which has embarked upon a transfer policy which simply does not work. The obsession with ” ones for tomorrow “, while ignoring the pressing requirements of today, is just plain stupid.
The truth is that that for the vast proportion of ” Tomorrows boys ” the future never actually comes. They are not able to make the transition from potential to the reality of life with the big boys, and they duly disappear anonymously.
Our need is now. A team which doesn`t score goals does not win football games. The facts speak for themselves.
For far too long we have gambled that our only forward with a genuine striker`s scoring instinct will avoid serious injury. But now our bluff has been called. We have no one to replace him, other that yet another of Tomorrows hopefuls. The young guy clearly has potential, but as of now is simply not ready for inclusion in our team in such a crucial position.
So Nuno and Mr Shi, its surely time to own up to past mistakes, and get to the core of the problem in the coming transfer window. Failure to do so could easily undo the huge progress that we, as a Club have made these past three years. Do you really want to take that chance ?
Spot on Mike, but many on this blog and elsewhere refuse to see it. And to make it worse I think one or two of our stalwarts can see it too (Neves, Coady, Boly) and the concept of the pack is quickly dissipating.
Watershed time Fosun.
Mike, how can you say it hasn’t worked when you look at the last 3 years?
Hi Prawny. I say it isn`t working because by far the majority of those hopefuls we bring in, never make a break through.
Think of the odd million here and there that has proven to be a complete waste. Several of our bloggers have already highlighted names of notable failures, so no need for me to repeat. But apart from these, think back over the past few years to the great publicity accorded to our young signings who are claimed to be to be the next big thing, and then we see or hear nothing more of them.
My point is that we need a far better balance in our approach to transfers. It will be disaster if we continue to ignore the pressing needs of today. Our beloved team urgently needs added quality now in several key positions. . Incoming proven guys who can help us next week not next year or in five years time.
Yes, future planning is surely desirable. But not at the expense of seeing us having to struggle unsuccessfully week after week against moderate opposition such as Aston Villa
Mike I have a slightly different take on signings. Whilst agreeing our 1st team squad does- and will always need strengthening, I believe Fosun have looked at the model set by the likes of Chelsea and aim to run a parallel business in buying promising talent who may or may not make the first team squad but will be nurtured into better players and their resale value will increase whether or not we ever see them.
I wouldn’t expect every player brought in to improve the first 11. I think there’s stock being built for this secondary business.
Totally and utterly disheartening. This is what happens when you concentrate on the future.
I said but got ridiculed we or should I say the powers that be are obsessed with future plans 10 years and all and future profits from players they have totally neglected the first team and the here and now.
In the most important areas of the team attack and defence we have spent a small fortune although peanuts to FOSUN on untried young ones for the future .
We have brought poorly in players ie Semedo that are supposed to be top draw. I would like to know who scouted him if anyone at all because he is know where near Premier League standard he would struggle in the Championsip…..shocking recruitment and it has been for awhile Menedz is making millions and mugs out of Wolves.
And all we have in reserve is………..kids…..laughable if it wasn’t so true.
Paul
You know you won’t find much disagreement from me. It’s been coming for a couple of years. We are only replacing ins and outs on a roughly like for like basis and spending a fortune on kids who so far are showing no sign of making PL status (Cuitrone, Jordao, Campana etc and the jury still out on the latest batch). That’s not making progress and certainly won’t get us near the avowed objective of CL qualification – or was it just a pipedream.
I want to shop where greaseball gets his strip.
The stuff he wears is bulletproof.
At least four times in first half he went down, mortally shot by unseen sniper fire, only to rise miraculously almost instantaneously.
As my mate Stu put it, what bollocks, rugby players would be loffin’ their socks off.
And then, as Stilton above points out, he has the balls to accuse Traore of diving!
And why do people STILL keep banging on about “if Raul was playing”?
You might as well ask if we would have won if Bully was playing, or The Doog, or Waggy.
Two bang average sides, with not much clue between then, and the worst ref in the history of mankind.
Villa played the usual lower table anti football, and were shit, and we followed them down to that level, and were shittier.
If we don’t come up with a plan to score at least one per game, we are gonna be Captain Mainwaringed…….doomed.
There was no fight or ambition or real desire from anyone, except Pedro and Daniel.
Traore looks totally disinterested, let Klopp have him.
Once again, The Big bad Wolves, for all their huffin’ and puffin’ couldn’t blow over the little pigs from Witton.
ANother couple of piss poor performances like this, and we are in a new year relegation battle.
Fuck me, can 2020 get any worse??!!
Clive, I’ve got you down as an extreme optimist. (I’m a cynic, btw.) But this is the most honest, realist comment I’ve read from you. It must have been hard for you to write this.
Mate, it’s no disservice to say it like it is. We just have to face up to it. Whatever our hopes and expectations were for this season, we’re not going to pull up any trees. We have a good number of points accumulated from the lesser teams. Today’s bottom three or four are destined for relegation. not us.
Nobody likes the truth when it shatters their illusion. Nobody likes that truth, they’d rather have a delusion. This season I’m resigned to a few great results every now and then, like an away win at Arsenal. Looks like it’ll be mid table for us. But next season …. just watch us go.
Bang on right Clive. For now, ours is not a Club seeking to go forward. We are in effect just trying to mark time.
It`s O.K for now looking at the bottom of the table, and feeling comfortable because of the crap that lies there. But if we don`t act positively and find a way to start scoring goals it ain`t rocket science to conclude that shortly we may find ourselves down there with them.
Nuno keeps banging the drum about needing to be ‘more clinical ‘. If only it was so easy. To be clinical you need to have a couple of guys who are adept at somehow sticking the bag of wind into the net. Nothing fancy. Any old how would do. But we have no one. Chance would be fine thing.
Fair point on the need to keep ourselves clear of danger. Once your points total is around equal or below games played you are certainly in a relegation scrap. But I’m not going there yet. Just thought today the Gods were against us. A couple of mm the other way and Fabio has a goal instead of inside of the post. There would be no meltdown had we pulled off a scruffy 1-0 like they did. Its football. It’s the premier league. It’s fine margins. And its f**king Mike Dean once again giving an injury time penalty against us.
Brilliant Clive great to see you angry shows me how much you care despite your tough exterior.
It’s no fun as the Iggy Pop songs goes Chalk and cheese compared to last season and your right we could end up in a relegation battle…….God Forbid.
I get accused of being negative but I would argue pragmatic or realistic – I try not to view through purely gold coloured glasses because I want to see us improve and win . And we aren’t doing so. But even I don’t foresee a relegation battle for 2 reasons.
1. There are at least 4 very poor teams at the bottom.
2. Our defence will see us to the 40 point mark (I hope) as long as someone starts scoring just a few goals.
I do however see Nuno starting to come under pressure – not from us but Fosun. It’s a cliche but it’s a results driven business Nuno and we aren’t getting them.
Neither side deserved to win in my opinion. Game spoilt by Mike Dean wanting to be centre of attention. Worryingly we are looking very pedestrian. Thought Fabio, for an 18 year old didn’t too bad, yeah he is not a Raul replacement… But, in fairness, since Bully we have not a centre forward of the likes of Raul, in my opinion.
Frustrated, disappointed and deflated think best sums up my feelings for Wolverhampton Wanderers FC at the moment. Oh, Chelsea next too.
Podence played a very good game today, Neto worked his socks off, Podence gets pulled downwards by the Oesophagus and gets booked.
Mike Dean should be paid higher by these opposing teams, whatever they’re paying him, it’s not enough he’s great at helping teams he favours.
To blame Semedo for that today, is an indication Wolves fans are desperate for a scapegoat.
Villa must take the trophy now for Anti football, it was like watching Cardiff back in the day.
Message to Nuno.
Put Semedo alongside Neves / Moutinho, Dendonker at RWB.
Viola.
This one is hard to take, but it’s confined to history and Chelsea next.
Of course we can blame Semedo. Who else got out of position again and brought down their man in the box in a 0-0 game where at that point we had a man advantage.? I’m happy to give the guy a chance in a midfield role as you suggested previously but to say he has not cost us the game is ridiculous
SCw
Suggest we try Hoever or get Doc back from Spurs reserves in Jan. Mind you we do have Jonny to come back as a potential RB. And yes, try Semedo as a box to box midfielder because we don’t have one and he can’t do so much damage further forward (to us).
Good suggestions. Anyone in defence other than Semedo he is a mistake waiting to happen
SCW.
I’m not going to go there mate. You have your opinion, I have mine. Our problem is not individuals.
You may as well blame the guy who lost the ball in the first place in the Villa half when w were pressing forwards with an extra man.
Everyone is entitled to their view. We will leave it there. Your view is as valid as mine
Thank you, I agree mate.
It’s just a game of football, disappointing as the result is.
Is that a bowed Viola or a plucked Viola? Good summary, I don’t like a blame culture in a team and if the missed chances had gone in, Semedos slip would be forgiven. Keeping the faith.
I see no other option but to smash the transfer record to bits in jan for a superstar no. 9.
Raul isn’t coming back anytime soon and we have to face that fact.
Fabio will take years to come to fruition not a few weeks which it seems is unfairly expected of him.
And while your at it get a midfielder who can score please.
Nuno is changing everything it would seem and because of this i think we can write this season off from a top six point of view.
Semedo is not a full back and never will be so where does he fit in ?
Need to get back to basics and hunker down over the next few weeks or we could be in for an embarrassing christmas.
Me ….. well i now have to hide until the vile get slaughtered by their next opponent .
happy christmas nuno !
Almost expect us to lose now! Although to be fair we were unfortunate to get nil points out of this game. Hit the post, some good stops by the keeper. Only naivety in the end by Samedo sunk the team.
How long before Samedo is rested because the number of times he gets the wrong side of his opponent is embarrassing. He’s also not great going forward.
Hard to take that especially v the Villa. But with the weakness we currently have on the right side of defence we are never too far away from conceding.
Yes it may be unfair to scapegoat one player but on the evidence so far Samedo needs quite a way to go for me as a right back in a new system of 4 at the back.
Has Nuno got solutions? Onwards and upwards to beat Chelsea I hope. But very frustrating and disappointing this afternoon.
Yes, Allen,it is unfair to scapegoat one player, but then I don’t see Semedo as a right back, bore an attacking half back, which he does quite well.
I liked the way we played, and would be quite happy to see the same team on Tuesday.
On another day we could have beaten the Villa, and on Tuesday we could well beat Chelsea .
Wrong to scapegoat yes but also wrong to persist with inconsistency. Samedo must take the blame for that penalty & rightly dropped for the next few games. He is simply not good enough.
A disappointing result . We deserved a point. Villa did not deserve three.
Their ‘keeper was much busier that Patricio with our superior number of shots on goal.
Two points I want to make. Several contributors here have commented positively
on Fabio Silva’s first full game. I agree with them. This young man looks a very bright prospect and is destined to become a quality player for us. However, I feel it is unfair, although perhaps understandable, to compare him with Raul Jiminez. There is ten years of experience between them. I doubt if any of us saw Raul play in a top level league at 20. It is hardly the fault of Silva that Wolves do not choose to reclaim any of the centre forwards on their books.
My second point is consistent with my last contribution on this site in regard to Adama Traore. He just does not appear to be happy in his work. Is he interested?
Surely he has license to seek out the ball and engage with game.
I’m not sure I’ve calmed down enough yet to put a polite comment on here. I’m still seething.
I’m not convinced Semedo is worth what we’ve paid for him. As others are saying let’s try him elsewhere & see how he goes. Stick Hoever in & give him a shot. Jonny should hopefully be back in the new year so that frees Marcal for the back 3 & yes let’s go back to the old system that worked!
Silva did ok for being thrown in but we need a decent CF come Jan as a priority. Plus as others are saying an attacking MF who can find the net, plus a couple of others.
We need to up our game now to start to get results. Personally I think the team will respond better with fans in but who knows when that’ll happen.
I will refrain from putting my opinion of Mr Dean or Greasel in as it wouldn’t be polite!!
For the last 3 years the way we’ve played has worked. As others have said, if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. I have to say I agree.
BW
Much merit in what you say.
BUT
It HAD stopped working; I don’t know whether we are stale or have ben found out or a bit of both but we haven’t played well since last Christmas and can barely score a goal to save our lives.
With the exception of Neto I’m not sure that the incomers are as good as Costa and Cav tbh. Podence is not that convincing and Traore has shot his bolt and looks as if he wants to be elsewhere anyway. Semedo v Doc? Cuitrone. v anyone?
And my views on the sale of Jota are well documented and it’s a decision that looks worse as every week goes by.
For what it’s worth I agree with you 110% over the sale of Jota. I was furious when it happened & im still mad now. I think we should have kept Cav as well.
As you say we need to score more goals. My own opinion was that Cutrone should have been given more time but the reports were he didn’t like it here.
Let’s hope they’ve got ideas ready for the January window & sort it fast rather than a last minute panic!
It’s just frustrating when we’ve players on the pitch that you know can do better.
Looks as if Cuitrone is going to be a malcontent wherever he goes if it’s not AC Milan. But I agree that several of our senior players are under performing
Traore to me has his mind elsewhere so let him go.
But I just get the feeling that the likes of Neves, Coady, Boly. Dendonker and and co .may be becoming a bit disheartened that “the project” seems to be stalling. Maybe Nuno too.
And we definitely agree on Jota and Cav.
PJB,
There’s some merit in what you say about the project stalling and if you watch Nuno press conference s pre: match he does not look a happy bunny his body language says to me he is a bit fed up.
Now wether that’s with life at Wolves in general or the way FOSUN are running the club.
He used to be happy smiling character now he seems down in the dumps all the time.
I honestly believe Jeff , Mendez and FOSUN are to close .
When we use Mendez FOSUN get a proportion of there money back because they are shareholders in his company it a way of clawing there money back it’s like buying from yourself.
Paul
I too have noticed Nuno’s rather hangdog shoulders slumped body language and feel that his change of psyche and the loss of form of 3/4 of his generals is no coincidence.
As for the rest of it we know we’re on the same page and probably the same paragraph!
I’ll save my opinion on the game until I’ve had time to reflect.
But for those people on and off this site who found Wolves v Villa boring check out the 1st half of Manchester derby
“Carpe diem”. “Carpe fukcing diem”. Is anybody going to “carpe diem”?
Certainly, there is some player who will take this unfortunate injury to Raul and use it as an opportunity to become a first-team regular. (Neto and Podence were already first-team regulars so they don’t count).
Note: I don’t want to say too much because I don’t want my sources to be found out but I think this will happen soon enough.
Tim
Hope your sources are right and that they don’t involve Cuitrone.
So who is going to step up? Can’t see anyone on the books as all “the ones for the future” are still for the future.
I like the look of Fabio but I don.t think he’s the immediate answer. Ronaldo? Wouldn’t be a bad stop gap if Raul is ever coming back.
The Neto Podence Traore combination works only intermittently. Don’t think Traore will ever be a consistent performer at this level. Time to cash in on him while we can.
Fair to say we are currently playing at the next level- unfortunately, it’s not the next upward level.
Agree – 3 wingers doesn’t work.
An on Traore I don’t think he wants to be here; he could be in for a shock as I think he has his sights on Anfield.
Ive noticed Wolves fans on here being nonchalant about giving away matches and loosing as it (used to be )in our DNA..
However the Chinese do not agree with this and things will have to change that’s why I loved their involvement.
I think Nuno will be on the line if we continue this half hearted casual not sure what to do approach with no acknowledgement to our goals against and our inability to score.
The ecstasy of being with the best and beating them is fading into the distance a bit..
The West Hams and Villa’s are teams we should just brush aside
Do we accept our current standard or do we have to realise
our manager is not up to our expectations?
I’m almost still celebrating our status from misery a few years ago but we have to be pragmatic regarding our current seasons results…
The game ..should of just scraped it…..fopars are us…
Losing not loosing. You never did listen and that is probably why you are never right. Are you mates with PJB and that AD guy?
Taking time out guys. Hope to catch up with a few of you in the New Year.
Stay safe.
Stevie boy,
If your’e down seeing your brother, come and bubble with us for a cuppa.
Take care mate.
Where are you off to mate?
Don’t wander too far will you?
Stay safe yourself mr brompton
And have a great Xmas
Utw
From what I’m reading, Cutrone will have opportunities in Serie A. He has a decent reputation there from his break-out year at AC Milan and I still think he just needs a coach and a system that suits his style. Remember that he did so well, he got a senior team call up for Italy. Claudio Ranieri’s Sampdoria is one of the teams who may have an interest in him. As well as Bologna and Torino.
I think we could have very easily have won this game. I thought we outplayed them.
I would like to see that penalty from a different angle because I don’t trust referees these days.
Cutrone is Italian for Adobe I think!
Utw
Good thing is the 14000 ‘fans’ who appeared on the scene in 2018 will probably now bugger off again. Which is good because I will be able to get a ticket for an away match again. Be it in the championship, league 1 or whatever. Wolves Ay We.
Lol. Hear, hear Cheesy. Me too.
92 clubs visited home and away in the dark ages, season ticket for 31 years and now, can’t but a ticket for away games.
Don’t know what you two are bleeting on about, Iv’e supported them for 59 years, I can’t even get a ticket for home games at the moment. 🙂
Crystal ball gazing, Cheese? None of us have been to any sort of game for 9 months. Please let us know when we’ll be going en mass again. This season looks to be a write off for starters.
Thanks for the comments chaps. You have to take in to account I had a long session on the beer yesterday. Initially thought I’d just have a couple whilst match was on early doors. But you know. Once you get the taste ………
Interesting to see that the Villa fans are feeling the same as us about Mike Dean. Whinging by the dozen on his prima donna performance.
Even my Villa loving Brother in law phoned straight after the final whistle to say “we woz wobbed”
Stu. The voice of reason. The amount of negativity truly makes me angry. It’s a game of football. In truth we should have had a point at least. It didn’t go for us. That’s it. A true reflection of Arsenal away. Liverpool away and Villa home would have been 4 points. That would have been a good return. Some fans need to get a grip. Any way I am cheering my self up with some happy poppy tunes……. Yes. Joy Division. The Peel Sessions 1979. Not played for years. You can tell I’ve had a few beers all day. Soz folks.
That’s unlike you, Stilton Old Chap.
Are you feeling ok?
Just a FEW beers?
The breweries are gonna go bankrupt if you only have a few.
Stay safe, you old bugger.
Well Clive yo am a Black Country bloke and a ‘ few’ can mean anything from 5 or 6 to summat considerably above . But yeah. Sound mate. Wolves ay we.
Having watched the game again last night, whilst I suspect I might be alone, I thought Mike Dean had a decent game. He rightly booked the Villa players for deliberate holding back attackers when breaking, carded Luis for leading with an elbow, Jaoa’s was due to frustration. He rightly ignored the ‘handballs’ in our box which earlier this season would have been subject to VAR. He did make mistakes, namely the challenge by Mings on Podence leading to the goal, but the match was a niggly local derby, We must not look to him as a scapegoat for losing a game we would have won comfortably last season with the chances we made. Villa goalie MOTM?Semedo made one mistake and gets pilloried, Grealish was kept pretty quiet, and he supports the attack and had a good effort on goal. The Donk needs a rest, his confidence is low and it is asking a lot to be our chief water carrier and finish 2/3 half chances per match. I thought we played quite well, just hope Fabio gets a goal soon and we will see him blossom. Just my thoughts having let the disappointment of a loss go.
I was going to put my tuppenceworth about this game, but after reading a lot of the above comments (where apparantley Silva played well) I now realise I must have watched the wrong game. You see the game I watched had me drooling over the skills of Podence and Neto, the bargain that is Marcal and mostly swearing at the incompetence of Silva and Mike Dean!
What I saw from Silva was a lot of endless, futile chasing of the ball with eventually one shot at goal that came off the post. He did not win a single header and was slow to be in position for crosses from Traore and Neto.
I believe we have two decent wingbacks in Semedo and Marcal, but are not being used to their full extent. I said it before and say it again, three at the back will allow these wingbacks more freedom going forward. I think we now all agree that Semedo lacks defensive qualities but is a very useful attacker.
The way Podence was controlling the game, I believe he would be an ideal midfield replacement for Mautinho whenever he decides to hang up his boots.
Now let me go and see if I can find a replay of the game where Silva played very well.
Sorry folks Donk is a liability can’t tackle head a ball or score! I can run alongside people all day long like him brings nothing to the team whatsoever and do not mention he has a good engine…. He delegates us us to 10 men every game!
Someone recently posted a link about the relationship between Forsan and Mendez with leaked documents. It clearly showed that Forson (through Mendez) were convinced that the real money in football was in the transfer of players and not making money from the club. That is why the transfers for “ones for the future” are the way they are, and not club progression. Do not underestimate Forson’s project to make money first, and the team’s success a secondary by product of these transfers!!!
Mind you, far better than Steve Morgan and others! But profit before progress!!
Progress and profit don’t need to be binary options St Kitts.
I had a dream last night in which I was trying to force a square peg into a round hole.
And then the square peg suddenly morphed into Nelson Semedo.
And the round hole turned into the right back position.
Just next to it was a hole which was exactly the correct size for Nelson.
It was mid field.
I had a similar dream a few years back when we bought Conor Coady, but the positions were reversed.
Funny things, dreams!
PS. Some of the facts might have been slightly changed to create dramatic effect – but, bearing in mind his performances to date, it’s a thought isn’t it.
Didn’t read anything on here after the Liverpool game, had a feeling who would be dominating and what they would be saying.
Wish I hadn’t bothered this week.
Can’t deny the result or the lack of goals. I was gutted when Jota left, but he wasn’t the solution to our goals problem.
The issue was the lack of players in the opposition box. Nuno knew it, and he is clearly trying everything to change it.
I have had arguments with fans who claim Nuno has favourites. Well there goes Boly. Only Raul Rui and the captain have been spared being dropped. Three at the back has gone and he knows that two in the middle meant Villa would own the middle of the park, but we would have the chances.
I was very sorry to see Doc go, but one of his last contributions was to ‘give away’ (?) a last minute penalty (thanks again Mr Dean) that ended our European dream. Doc (bless him) was no full back either for us or Ireland. Semedo is no full back.
Wonder how Vinicius is feeling with his lack of game time at Spurs as Kane’s never playing under-study. Is he happy counting his money and enjoying life in the West End or is he doing a Cutrone dragging his satchel and kicking a can on his way to training. It ain’t easy keeping everyone happy and as the Fleetwood Raincoat observed, “players only love you when they’re playing”.
Really really wish that shot of Fabio’s had bounced the other way. But the gods have determined that yesterday was Villa’s day.
Tough times, strong nerves needed. But personally I would rather be relegated than have my team’s main attacking strategy be to pinch a dodgy penalty.
Fabio did great for me, and can’t wait to see him paired with Raul. Neto, Traore and Podence were like impressive fireflies, dancing around but eventually fizzling out. Overall, not really gelling as a team, and unfortunately prone to game changing errors. Much work on the training pitch and tactics required Nuno.
As regards the Silva effort. The way he latched on to that loose ball was purely natural and a thing of beauty.
He needs to get on the front foot for those Neto low crosses. But his main supply approach has to be the balls slid through to him, Podence, Neves Moutinho and Neto can do that all day.
Fabio is a Lineker not a Raul. Traore may be kicking his heels till Raul comes back, unless the Donk gets his act together.
Have now watched the game and match of the day twice .
I watched motd twice because they condensed the good bits into a few minutes.
Shearer who does know his stuff hit the nail on the head when saying silva has very big boots to fill in replacing raul. That’s an understatement of epic proportions .
He also showed where he was too slow to come to crosses and this is down to a complete lack of experience but he had an average game….. debate .
I said in a previous post that we will have to smash the transfer record for a striker in january and after watching that i am now even more convinced.
Fabio needs time and he has been unfairly chucked in at the deep end when he has barely learnt to swim so its not his fault its the clubs fault for not having an oven ready replacement for raul.
Let’s face it they have had oodles of time to get someone and have dragged their feet coming up with “one for the future” in Fabio.
Virtually everyone who has half a brain could see we were walking a tightrope with raul but to be fair it’s about the only goolie that has been dropped oh! and please don’t start on about doc and diogo.. both wanted out both have gone and if you really think we wanted to sell diogo you must be off your rocker .
And as for this cobblers about selling our players as the only way to make a profit well why don’t we sell them all and start again !
It was said and i read it that guangchang stated there was big money in buying and selling players. You don’t need to be a rocket scientist to work that one out .
He DIDN’T say it was the only way and he DIDN’T say that was the way they are running wolves you lot who are on that bandwagon are just surmising that’s what he meant and because jota and doc have gone and we made a profit ( yippee)you are now raising your eyebrows and assuming we will do it with every player we have who we can turn a profit on.
Players come and go from all clubs all the while everyone is looking for a bigger pay day that’s the name of the game the days of john richards and steve bull have long gone no one is hanging around being loyal anymore…. get real !
Let’s face it we are in a bit of mess on the pitch at the moment and this adjustment in playing styles is taking time to adapt to but saying that we really should have had at least two if not three goals yesterday and on another day we will.
Chelsea were dealt a blow by superb tactics from a resolute everton defence and midfield . Everton have been through a sticky patch of late but have solidified and come out on top
That’s what we have to do starting Tuesday night !
Good to see a little reality being introduced regarding Fosun ‘s business/sporting plan. Thank you Spikey.
This was an awful result, but could so easily with a little more luck, have been a straightforward win. MOM was our old friend, Martinez, who kept Villa in the game, fair play to them.
I thought Semedo was having a decent game until he was involved in the incident. Funny thing was that he had cleverly avoided two similar situations earlier in the match. But, it’s not going well for him and this situation, with opposition teams playing on his defensive frailties, should not continue; great going forward, but… Boly needed to `have a rest` in my opinion and Saiss did well; Kilman is unlucky to not be in the team .
I still think we need to go two up front, but the personnel is not there for the Jimenez role as Fabio is a number ten at present as I see it. Maturity and growing strength may change this in the future but we badly need an out and out striker or two in the next month.
I would like us to use the three at the back with two up front, one lying a little deeper, at present until the one or two outstanding problems regarding available players is resolved; I think we are not up to the system we want to play but are only a couple of tweeks away from getting it right.
Our confidence may be under some pressure until we can start scoring more readily and stop making careless costly errors. Need to get to Tier two; is that likely?
Everton boss Carlo Ancelotti said 2,000 returning fans made “a total difference” as his side ended Chelsea’s 17-game unbeaten run with victory at Goodison Park.
He’s right, of course.
That was certainly the case at Liverpool. Their 2,000 fans sounded like 20,000.
So we start with a disadvantage every time we take to the pitch at the moment.
And will do for some time yet.
But still better than the sandwell shadow dwellers, who have started every game in their history disadvantaged, just because of their club name!!
FOwb
Not necessarily as, come Wednesday, the whole country may be in tier 3 and that should sort out the scallywags.
Or a new level of tier 4. Except London which will be reduced to tier 1, but only The City and The City of Westminster. Outer boroughs also all tier 4.
Unfortunately?? unable to watch the game but my first comment on seeing that Mike (look at me) Dean was the ref was that we had little or no chance of wining.
I accept that we obviously played crap that is something Nuno will have to sort out and bloody quickly.
But it is beyond belief that a so call top class ref has to hand out so many yellow and two red cards in a game that never got out of hand, or was it that he was desperate to get to his 3000 card of his career.
Hope we play a lot better on Tuesday or we will get a real hammering.
The ironic thing was that the one time that it did get to ‘Handbags at dawn’, Jasper was nowhere to be seen. He just stood back and watched.
I think he was waiting for someone to throw a punch so he could send them off.
So I finally get a prime time Saturday night 8.30 kickoff but have to go to a Xmas function.
I get home around the 90 min mark , put the game on a and the first thing I see is the penalty awarded, ya cudnt mekit up .
Pissed off , I went to bed and had another Xmas get together Sunday mid morning so still haven’t watched anymore than the highlights.
Maybe I can keep getting drunk until the 4 am Wednesday morning kickoff and just pretend it didn’t happen but social media is in meltdown so here are my thoughts.
We should have won ,
With mautino out , let’s start with vithina or ottosawi ( spelling!!)against Chelsea
Law of averages say we have to get a penalty soon in this season of endless penalties and neves will be up and running.
We will finish comfortably above villa at season end .
Finally, I don’t agree with the theories of us being a club who buy young to sell for a quick profit, I just think we are being creative in order to avoid ffp rules that stifle us, otherwise, why haven’t we sold neves, Boly Coady Johnny etc
Keep the faith people
Come on you mighty wolves
Read an interesting piece in the news this am (2am to be exact due to Covid lockdown disturbing my sleeping pattern)
Wolves may go back in for Zinchenko who can play RWB or LWB, end of two problems, a good RWB to release Semedo to go forwards into his obviously best position AMF. Then have Jonny back January February time (optimistic) .
Then buy TWO World class established strikers to rotate around Jimmy when he comes back in January.
Not trying to sell Semedo, just read this piece and thought it would be a winner all round and solve a load of problems.
Over to you Nuno……
I like this Stu. We’ve been linked with both Hulk and Maxi Gomez. There are two with experience. Apparently Hulk would be happy to play EPL for £40k a week, as aged 34, he currently gets around £380k a week! He’s probably got two years in him. Gomez needs to be released for club revenue reason. Two more swarthy, evil looking characters you’d be pleased to avoid on a dark night. They’d make Rondon seem like Softie Walter. Forget Zinchenko but it might be worth asking if Maitland-Niles has had second or third thoughts. We could use Hulk for his bulk and Gomez for his goals.
Can’t forget Zinchenko, I love watching him play and once said to Jen de Wolf, “we should get him and drop Doherty as Zinchenko is definitely an upgrade” he is everything Nuno wants from his RWB/LWB and more.
Hulk,
Nuno stated two days ago, “Hulk is too old, to expensive and we won’t be going for him” like you, I think he would do the job in the interim, at least he knows where the net is.
Dreaming is for free.
Personally can’t see that Zinchenko would add anything different and as for Semedo operating in a different position, I don’t think so. On the right side but further up front he’d be a poor man’s version of Traore ( even in his current moody state) as he is less pacey (even greaseball left him for dead) and struggles to beat a man.
What we need is a top striker ( Bellotti for me if he can be persuaded to leave his beloved Turin) and midfielder with bite who carries a goal threat.
Having had time to reflect on yesterday’s disappointing result here are a few thoughts.
Whilst Semedo was ultimately responsible for the penalty a lot happened before that moment, this is a team game after all. And where was the cover and support he was entitled to expect? In some quarters there is a momentum to make Semedo the scapegoat for all Wolves failures. Scapegoating in my view is a close relation of bullying. He made one mistake and had dealt well with Grealish’s main trick – drawing a penalty.
Much has been made of there being no ready made replacement for Jiminez. Many clubs have had similar problems. Some of whom you would have expected to rely on expensively assembled squads. Even Man City have struggled without Aguero.
And talking of expensively assembled squads Everton have for years been throwing money at trying to build a team capable of competing at the top, including the recruitment of a top level coach, and still have n’t succeeded. They are about to chick another £250 mil at it.
We lost a messy game(thank you Mr. Dean) going up against a very well organised defence, built on tactical fouling, backed by MOTM, Martinez.
Sorry to have rambled, thank you sticking to the end.
Some wise words there happy..
This position we are in will shortly show the fans exactly how good or great our Nuno truly is…I believe the latter.
A bit of pressure and stress will reveal the metal of the man.
UTW forever
I’m predicting that over the next month and a half, we will be hearing a lot of rumours about Wolves being interested in this striker and Wolves being interested in that striker.
People will be saying they must all be made up because Wolves can’t possibly be interested in so many strikers.
What I think they will do is show an interest in many strikers and look for the best deal to get a striker that can somewhat cover for Raul until he comes back.
I’m thinking that they will not get the best striker they can, it will be down to the best deal they can get because, hopefully, he will only be needed for a few games after he gets here.
So look for a late in the window signing of someone who is almost out of contract and is a backup at his current team.
Note: I have no inside information on this. Just going by how Wolves seem to do business, as I see it.
From,
Our man in Houston, Tx
Keep the faith boys & Girls.
Bloody nora..they’ve even got a flecking Hastings in southern Canada
Get it right, Canada is a North Houston suburb!
OK OK calm down calm down…though you had black country coal for blood lol
I class American folks as southern Canadians as they get proper rattled.
Piece from the London papers on David Luis and Arsenals handling of his “Head wound against Wolves”. I say again, “they were more concerned about points than their player”
Arsenal have issued an update about David Luiz whom they allowed to play on for a significant amount of time after his sickening clash of heads with Raul Jimenez that left the Wolves’ man with a fractured skull.
Even up until the game against Spurs, Arsenal were still insisting that Luiz had only suffered a bad cut to his head and that was the reason he was missing. They were keen to stress that it absolutely, positively wasn’t a concussion.
In fact, the last update I wrote, live as they reported it on Sky Sports, was just before the Spurs match: “6/12/20 Sky Sports confirmed David Luiz was not included vs Spurs because of the cut on his head and were keen to stress that Arsenal had stressed it was absolutely, definitely not because of a concussion, so it is probably a concussion.”
Previous updates stated:
2/12/20 Mikel Arteta – David Luiz should be fit for Sunday “if the scar is healing properly & he’s comfortable heading the ball.”
29/11/20 Mikel Arteta – “It was a really tense situation because the collision was surprising and straightaway you could see the reaction of the players, asking for the doctors to come on the field, which is never a good reaction. Then I just had news from David that the doc made all the tests and followed all the protocols to make sure that he was fine. He responded really well to all of them, but it was a nasty cut. David wanted to continue and he continued, but at half-time we decided to take him out because he was uncomfortable heading the ball.”
No mention, as you can see, of concussion, and TV broadcasters reported a number of times that the club said it wasn’t concussion.
However, Arsenal’s latest update on Luiz says, “Head. David sustained a deep laceration to the head during Wolves (h) on November 29. Due to the significant impact, David has continued to be closely monitored for a concussion and has followed all protocols. David is now back in training and his fitness will continue to be assessed ahead of Sunday’s match.”
It was clear at the time of the incident that concussion was going to be an issue. The head that sends another head to hospital cannot escape damage itself and I think Arsenal know they made a mistake leaving the defender on the pitch as they did.
Mid table at best this year. Yes Silva is young but this is not the league to be
blooding young talent , which I don’t think he has. Who ever sanctioned this
signing is a fool, I see nothing in him ,the chance he had fell to him and was not of his making.He did not win one header or trouble the VIlla defence. As with Vinagre another terrible signing Silva could turn out to be the worst signing in the clubs history ! It has put Nuno in a tricky position as that huge cost will make him
feel he should play him but on merit he should not.
Lower Penn Wolf.
I would think Nuno sanctioned the signing, and although he may be many things, a fool he is definitely not.
Whomsoever you are, you are entitled to your opinions, just DON’T be insulting, or you will feel the full force of the blog wrath!!
Stop using my name!!
Grrrrrrrrr cough cough!
Whomsoever you are I was in no way insulting just observations we are all entitled to.
Fuckin hell. We lose 1-0 to villa and this. What a load of bollocks.
As Cheesy said, ‘small margins’.
Had Silva’s shot gone in off the post I see us winning yesterday as they were never really hurting us. A properly built wall against Newcastle and thats another 2 points. A deserved point at Leicester (who also didn’t hurt us) would have meant 6 more points in total, putting us on 23 points and in 4th place.
Small margins can make huge differences, especially to people’s perceptions. Yes, we are not playing particularly well, struggling for goals and generally looking a lot less impressive than this time last year. But put a few small details right, get the run of the ball and suddenly we’re CL contenders.
I’m no ‘Happy Clapper’ but from reading some comments you would think we were back in the days of the Bhatti’s. There’s not much wrong with us and what is wrong can and will be fixed.
With new year approaching it is time to get out the crystal ball. Not sure how many people actually own a crystal ball but I certainly do. I got mine from the Lower Gornal crystal ball shop. Me and next door neighbours cat have gazed in to it and confidently predict the following. The rule for going in a pub in Tier 2 will be modified so that you can only have food if you have TEN pints of lager first. Neil Warnock’s face will be subject to a viewers warning “this report contains images that viewers may find distressing ” Wayne Rooney will probably realise that having a £35 grand hair transplant then STILL shaving it off grade 1 is a waste of
money. Mike Dean will flourish a red card at a pigeon which shit on his head. The Queen will address the nation on Xmas Day and announce that West Bromwich is to be annexed and deported to a small island off Chile and Terrence Trent-Darby will blow his kitchen up whilst attempting to install a set of cabinets. All of this has been confirmed by Derek the psychic slug who lives in the front garden. Oh and WWFC will FINISH ABOVE VILLA.
This is more promising, the comments are settling on a more even keel and some perspective is being realised. No one will be more disappointed than young Nelson, he will carry a burden in front of his team mates, he will know his mistake cost his team a point (Yes it was 0-0 at the time). So I ask , was there a single player who didn’t make a mistake? Someone who should have made a better cross or pass or shot for the corner rather than give the keeper a chance to save? Other than Rui the answer is no. It’s a team game. I was more angry about the dodgy wall v Newcastle which I’ve seen under 13s build better and that cost us two points. No one will be more frustrated than Nuno and his staff, they know the problem better than any of us and will probably working on the solution right now.
If Mick had the same kind of funding that Nuno has, would he have kept us in the Premier League all along?
What place would he have been able to achieve? Top half? 11-15th on a regular basis? 15-17th?
Yes Tim I’m sure he would.
Mick did our club proud and was ultimately let down by Morgan and Moxey and then ironically his mediocre favourites Henry and Ward who stabbed him in the back.
And when he started he had a load of kids who played decent football, he didn’t just play hoofball.
Who gives a shit what McDickwadhead would have done?
He dodn’t.
It’s history.
Get past it.
Jeeeez!!
I preferred it when you emulated John Cleese, Tim.
Mate, this bird wouldn’t “voom” if you put four million volts through it!
A disappointing result goes without saying BUT through the depressive mist that many with low pressure barometers are bringing to the blog… we should realise that we’ve been the benefactor of late goals during the past years (West Ham away springs to mind)… we only have ourselves to blame.
Not scoring from countless good opportunities leaves us open to a moment of madness and whooosh there goes 3 points.
I thought we were certainly deserving of a draw but history will show that we lost 0-1… let’s just move on to Tuesday…
I remember not so long ago that a midweek game v Chelsea turned our season back into the right direction with. 2-1 win…..
Let’s go again on Tuesday….
I’m with Amazon Prime…. so a free view for me….
Let’s not get too down…
Would it not be lovely to see Arsenal get relegated along with sandwell and one other?
The only team to have been in the top flight non stop since the second world war. (Remember that, Twixxy?)
The way they are going it’s a real possibility.
Ho frickin’ ho
Thought it was the Ist World War. Just ask Clive – he”‘ll remember.
Name the Rod Stewart song that line is from…….
Came a knock on the door, thought it was the First World War
Also,
How do you think the unthinkable?
With an ithberg!!
Many thanks Cliveyboy…..
I was born post WW2 and my conception was down to the severe winter that followed ….
Just seen on another forum. Never seen so much negative whingeing miserable knobheads in my life. They have the audacity to call true fans happy clappers. Sorry negative shit heads but the happy clappers are the glory hunters. The wins over Man City . Chelsea. Spurs. The trips to Europe. The trip to Wembley for the FA cup semi final. YOU are the happy clappers. See you there back in League 1 ? I f**kin doubt it.
Easy Tiger..
Tell them so then (you probably have) then stick to the best forum.
Fully agree with your analysis Thomas. Everything seems to be going wrong at the moment and we’re making stupid mistakes through lack of confidence. I’d rather Semedo hadn’t fouled McGinn. A penalty is almost a certain goal, but not fouling McGinn would not necessarily have led to an almost certain goal. The Saiss unnecessary penalty against Man City comes to mind. Can we please stop fouling at all in and around the penalty area? Not fouling is almost always the lesser of two evils. So what if someone gets past a defender? A foul can be a double-whammy: a free kick or a penalty PLUS the possibility of a card.
As Thomas says, we were playing on the break like like an away side. This fell into Villa’s hands as they simply dragged a player down when a break was on. Don’t we ever get in the opposing penalty area? How many time s did the Villa keeper spill a Wolves pot shot, but nobody was there to tap into the net? Astonishing.
I was heartened by the display of Silva but we must keep a sense of proportion. If we’d signed a promising lad from the Championship would he have looked worse than Silva? I remain very concerned that we have been fitted up in recent transfer acquisitions. Maybe payback time? We made stunning buys in the Championship that made people sit up and take notice. Do we owe favours to Mendes now?
Here we go again….yawn…. conspiracy theories……yawn…. fosun and mendes ripping off the club…..yawn yawn f#####g yawn !!!