The post-match Wolves website bore a headline of ‘Boss Rues Fine Margins’.
It certainly didn’t feel marginal as Forest’s impressive midfield counted down 5 minutes of injury time with some intricate one touch passing around a desperate Dave Edwards.
On a miserable grey cold afternoon by the Trent, the weather rather reflected our survival prospects.
And all this despite a first half in which we seemed to contain Forest’s attacking threat while creating chances of our own, with Edwards screwing a golden chance wide from 12 yards and Sako thundering a free kick against the bar (after thundering a similarly dangerous one against Gorkss’ backside just before).
Forest didn’t create any clear chances but sadly didn’t need to, as Guedioura teed up Lansbury to fire home from 20 yards with the kind of conviction the old gold could only dream of.
And it was in comparisons of the two sides’ midfields that the eventual comfort with which Forest won could be explained. Sako was as powerful and threatening as ever, and Dave Edwards had a good game, enhancing his usual workrate with some nice touches.
Yet while Guedioura, Lansbury and Reed moved the ball across the pitch with speed, accuracy and confidence, Henry and O’Hara were lethargic and totally unable to make any meaningful impact on proceedings. And as Forest introduced Guy Moussi, who repeatedly won the ball and put his side on the front foot, we could only summon Doumbia, who seemed unable to break out of a gentle jog, never mind impose himself on the match.
So while Doherty’s looping header from a Sako delivery offered brief euphoria, it was followed by the immediate concession of possession deep in our own half and a failure to get near Lansbury as he curled another effort past Ikeme from range.
A second comeback never looked likely as we offered only ponderous passing and tired punts forward. The protestations following Ward’s red for a very deliberate obstruction of Greg Halford while last man were baffling, and another Forest midfielder – Lewis McGugan – sealed the inevitable shortly after.
Given Forest’s rich form of late it is perhaps harsh to be too critical of Wolves.
As noted, Edwards had a decent game and Doherty’s obvious effort was rewarded with a goal. Gorkss and Johnson also did well and kept Simon Cox very quiet.
But trudging away from the ground afterwards and reflecting on a game decided in the middle of the park, it was hard to ignore the number of Forest fans wearing red shirts adorned with the name and number of a certain ex-midfielder of ours.
I won’t be getting carried away after losing to a side that is well above us in the table and hitting some really good form. The real test will be on Saturday when we face a side battling for the same thing we are.
I’m starting to worry about the emergence of these two or three loan signings. Is there really no one better than Henry or O’Hara that could come in and improve the squad? They constantly seem off the pace and only slow down attacks. It’s just a shame Dean hasn’t got many options but I think he should be prioritising this area first in terms of re-enforcements.
My interest in this season is, more or less, over.
Talking of reinforcements is ridiculous.
The only thing that has happened since Morgan took over is a rebuilt stand.
Redrow are the winners.
Board room decisions have been disastrous.
Directors, managers, players, non of them seem to care about Wolves.
‘Its all over now baby Wolves’, to paraphrase Bob Dylan.
Think we will go down as the bottom club.
Just hope that in the summer someone buys the club who cares about football and not laughing at Wolves fans, who pay their money so you can rip them off…
Disillusioned is an understatement.
Disillusioned too, but I don’t for a minute believe that there is some knight in shining armour out there ready to take Wolves off Morgans hands. It took Sir Jack years to sell, and if Steve Morgan was to sell I trust he would have the same integrity as Sir Jack – and not sell to some crook (with no real money or no real interest in the club) from Russia or the Middle East. We have been there before – remember the asset stripping Bhatti brothers, who’s only aim was too sell us down the river for what ever they could get?
Steve Morgan has really cocked it up – but to his credit he has admitted this. He now needs to learn from his mistakes, and prove that he has the backbone to sort it out. I am confident that he will, and we will be back where we belong sooner, rather than later… I’m still not renewing though!
Jez…..
Morgan has already proved, in my eyes, that he has not a grain of integrity, compared to Sir Jack.
He’s already admitted he’s made mistakes?
How come just two loanees since Saunders tenure?
All these arguments defending Morgan are ridiculous.
Results speaks for themselves…
Maybe there just isn’t anyone out there worth loaning at this point in time. Are Robinson and Gorkss any better than what we’ve already got? – I’m not really convinced. I’d have the young lads in the team – Batth at the back, Davis in for Henry. How many young strikers are there out there, available to loan to us better than Sigurdson and Cassidy? I’ll tell how many – none. It’s a waste of time loaning for the sake of it. I’m afraid Saunders has to spend his time sorting out a few key bad attitudes – the 20% who Solbaken complained about – it’s their bloody fault we are where we are. We need a clear out in the summer, and Morgan & Moxey may have to pay up a few expensive contracts to get rid of them – as no one else is going to pay them 30 grand a week for the rubbish they’ve served up this season!
Anyway chaps, the Cricket season starts next month – great! Something to distract us from what’s going on at Molineaux – come on Worcester!
HI Jez. Agree with the cricket! Come on you Pears! The Wolves speedway team will prove a welcome distraction too (a harmonious, talented Wolves team to support for a change)
But I don’t agree with there being no strikers better than Siggy and Cassidy…Wickham and Lita, currently on loan at Sheff Wed, are better than anything we have. Seems bizarre we didn’t / couldn’t go in for them yet a debt riddled club like the Owls did?
Even Sammi Ameobi from Newcastle would have been an improvement.
I am putting a blog together about League One and Two players too, having seen loads of it during my work with the JPT over the last 5 years…
…Francois Zoko, Clayton Donaldson, Robbie Simpson, are just three I’ve seen with my own eyes that are better than anything we have (and they’re probably not even the best strikers on their own training fields)
It seriously makes me wonder who / what teams our scouts actually watch
Quite how we have persisted with these players for so long is anyone’s guess.
The Bhatti brothers lost interest after the council would not give planning permission to build a supermarket as part of the redevelopment of molinuex which they made clear when they tock over wolves, in fact the council gave the go ahead in principle but changed its mind , ironic really only when council tock over wolves did it then give planning permission to the Galligher Brothers.
Yes he is called David Davis. He did more in 20 mins than O’Hara and Henry did in the whole game. I don’t know what DS sees in some of the players. We must have the weakest central midfield in the championship.
At least Ward is suspended to allow Jack Robinson to return. What a stupid challenge, the ball was running through to Ikeme anyway.
At least we have now played many of the top sides and have some winnable games coming up. We didnt play too badly and if we win on saturday we are still in with a fighting chance of beating the drop.
Agreed re. David Davis, meant to mention him in the short list of players who impressed yesterday. Got stuck in and got us on the front foot several times in his short appearance. I don’t know that he could have done much more to deserve a start against Bristol
It’s now at the stage where I don’t care how we get them, we just have to beg, borrow or pinch just enough points to survive. Anything less does not bear even thinking about.
Thanks for the report SKD.
Massive game next weekend now, massive. I don’t think we can recover from the damage another crippling home defeat would cause.
As for the midfield, getting rid of Guedioura and Milijas in the summer was as bad a decision as any.
But of equal disappointment is Doumbia’s fall from grace. You can pin point his decline as the moment the wheels started to fall off. Then of course there’s Boukari. That’s £6 million worth of disappointment.
Not so much a ‘getting rid of’ more than a ‘I want to leave and don’t want to play for Wolves’ .
Agree with you re Doumbia. Looked good now looks lost.
That might be true with Guedioura but they weren’t exactly falling over themselves to get him to stay.
Milijas was paid to leave don’t forget. Paid to leave.
I can’t begin to express how utterly disappointed I was at the exits of Guedioura and Milijas. Their departures were the final nails in the coffin of my belief that there was any quality leadership left in this club. How is it possible for men in top footballing jobs to be so utterly blind? Something is very, very wrong here and Morgen, Moxey and Saunders are not the men to fix it.
I really do worry about Bristol coming to town next week, they just seem to be getting a bit of form, if we lose that one the fat lady will be walking to the stage whilst clearing her throat!…I didn’t think we would get anything yesterday, so no surprises, saw the goals on tv and it just looked like we didn’t close them down quick enough, but they took them well….I do wonder whether DS is saying the same things to the team that he says to the press though, if he is telling them that they should have won all of these games we have lost by the odd goal then they must think either A) we just need to carry on doing what we are doing and it will all be ok or, for the more clued up B) this bloke hasn’t got a scooby doo and will be gone at the end of the season…I hope he is rollicking them and telling them to book there ideas up…but I doubt it?…anyway, lets try an stay positive, it’s Mothers Day and I have been called upon to do the cooking, so it could be worse, you could all be round here being forced to eat my dodgy roast!
UTW
I think we don’t stand a chance against Bristol.
Since O Driscoll took over, they have won more games than we have for six months!
As for talking about loan signings, forget it.
We are the laughing stock of the top two divisions.
We loan Robinson who brings some enthusiasm to the side, but drop him for Ward.
If you were a half decent midfielder/striker, would you come to the mess that Wolverhampton Wanderers has become?
Answer no….
“Let’s be realistic….” As the judge said to me some 30 years ago, while gaoling me for marijuana…..
I know I sound pessimistic and will continue, till I die, supporting Wolves, but I accept that Deano the Beano, Poxey Moxey and Moronic Morgan will not be stopping the rot before the end of the season….
Overall we were in the game even at 2-1 down, but the lack of creativity in midfield as again been our downfall.
It’s going to be a rollercoaster ride but a decent loan signing who can create might just make the difference.
There’s no point in re-treading old ground regarding the disgrace that was letting Guedioura go. But he’s showing exactly what we lack desperately in midfield…creativity, passing prowess, and the quality and confidence on the ball to keep possession.
Perhaps they were and are better than us, but when you’ve got back to 1-1 you should not be letting a goal in a minute and a half later. It is (as ever) the most basic errors we’re making. To be honest there’s no point going over it because it’s the same errors and the same horrible deficiencies we saw under McCarthy (in the later days), Connor and Solbakken that we’re still seeing under Saunders.
If we lose to Bristol City on Saturday, I’m afraid it may well be game over and we’ll be playing Coventry City and Stevenage Borough next season.
Whether we stay up or not, we need a wholesale clear out. I don’t think the players appreciate what is required by the fans of this club and that was made clear by Stephen Hunt’s comments after his appalling performance against Leeds. He needs to wise-up and realise this is Wolverhampton Wanderers, not Reading.
And if Saunders really wants a team of Stephen Hunts, I really do despair for the future.
Directed at Saunders but also at the “20%”…
A team of Hunts
You”re havin’ a laugh
A team of Hunts
You’re havin’ a laugh!
To use a certain cockey rhythm slang they are all a bunch of Stephen Hunts. I’m still trying too work out what happen th Cassidy any one know didnt even make his usual bench warming duties, should I call the police ?
Half expected this result, but had hoped for a draw, especially after the Milwall result. Saturday will be the benchmark of Wolves survival chances and ultimately the acid test for Saunders tenure, failure in this game does not bear thinking about.
Also agree with AJ Wolf, where are the three loan signings, Henry and OHara are being carried at the moment and we are desperate for a cutting edge up front.
COME ON ME BABIES
ive been siiting here for ages looking to bring something to the table..thing is im still sitting here. cant find anything inside the football part of my brain because its empty of all emotion , care , belief and worst of all hope. we are in freefall and have been for ages and the really troubling thing is this could continue way beyond this season. can someone explain to me why we bother?
We bother because we have to.
Because Wolves are part of our DNA and always will be.
Even when we’re in the Conference we will still be dreaming and hoping because we’re Wolves supporters.
Nothing ever will, or can, change this.
I’ve often thought of trying to support one of the top four clubs or, as someone suggested recently, a top Spanish or Italian team – but come on!
You can’t rip your Old Gold heart out and transplant one of a different colour.
No, whatever happens we will remain Wolves until we are long gone and up there with the Doog, Frankie Munro et al, looking down and cursing as Moxey minor and some other future money grabbing owner make another complete horlicks of running our football club.
That’s our fate – and we’re stuck with it!
Spot on. When I moved to the Isle Of Wight I assumed that as I was getting my footie fix at Southampton I would slowly but surely become a Saints man. It just doesn’t happen I am Old Gold and Black for life.
DOOgooder. Spot on mate. You just can’t go around and change your emotions, heart and passion we all have for our team to support something else. I’m also keeping optimistic that Moxey will be gone after this season regardless of the outcome. If not then Morgan has no passion either.
I would welcome your comments on the MM situation. Thx
Hello Andrew from Atlanta.
If you mean Morgan and Moxey, it’s difficult to know if they are both totally out of their depth running and owning a football club, or cynically ripping the heart out of it to line their own pockets.
It’s also hard to see if they are ‘good cop’ ‘bad cop’ and if so, which one is which.
On the face of it, Steve Morgan seems committed to trying to do the best for the club without spending any money or having any real idea of what to do and Moxey is a fat oaf who is only interested in making a profit to increase his bonus.
How Morgan can call Moxey the best CEO on the league is beyond me.
The one thing that is certain is that the club is in freefall.
They’ve tried changing the manager, they’ve attempted rather half heartedly to change the squad and it hasn’t worked.
That seems to leave one more thing to do.
Kick out the pieman and employ a Director of Football who knows the game and how to invest some money in decent players with potential so when we finally hit rock bottom there is the nucleus of a team that can start the long climb back to where a club of our history and stature belongs.
cheers doogy mate..cannot ever ever see myself following anyone other than wolves. believe me there have been times in the 80s ive wanted to. maybe i worded it wrong.. its footie as a whole i think that is destroying itself ; top six passionless fans . jonny come latelies , gold digging glory hunters. i think div3 will see some of the most loyal truest fans ….but none of these clubs can in my lifetime ever see premier success due to the greedy bastards making it too much of a risk let alone too impossible a dream . i wish the premier league never existed cos it is killing the game for everyone else. i want to return to the 70s cos THAT was real football at a real price with real men that really cared . or am i entrenched in a depressive fog created by the reminder of john barnwell in the e~+s
Hi old goldy.
I know from your contributions to this blog that you care as deeply as anyone about Wolves and what I wrote certainly wasn’t meant to insinuate anything different.
I agree that in lots of ways The Premier League has killed football as we knew it.
Going even further back, I think it was in 1983 when the rule came in that home teams could keep all their gate money.
Before that, gate receipts were shared and there really was a level playing field in that a club with very small home gates could compete equally with the likes of Manchester Utd with their 60,000+ crowds.
Also, TV money was originally shared equally among all the league clubs.
Then we had the Bosman ruling which took all the power away from the clubs and handed it to the players who went very quickly from being downtrodden and exploited to the spoiled, over paid prima donnas that we see today.
It also spelled the end of club loyalty so now 99% of footballers are mercenaries who will go anywhere for the big bucks.
All these things have combined to make the players rich and (in many cases) lazy and drive a wedge between the few big clubs and the many who struggle to survive.
Depressing, yes – but it’s not going to change back to the good old days and the lower Wolves sink, the more difficult it will be to get back to the top table.
It is worrying that DS seems to always think we were nearly good enough. I pointed out a few games ago now that it’s not the left back that costs you a game , it’s the midfield. Although I keep seeing calls to loan a creative midfielder on here , I see no names. Who is likely to have a god mid. player that they don’t need ?
I don’t remember there being that many protests when Guedioura left either. Milijas maybe but not Guedioura.
No, We won’t get another signing so this squad has to produce the goods. Was 4 wins from 10; now 4 from 9. lets hope it doesn’t end up 1 from 1 !!
Re Guedioura cannot comment on opinion mooted on this blog, but the company of Wolves that I keep were aghast when we let him go. I mean we keep a hold of so much tripe through injury setback after injury setback but let this obvious talent slip through our net. Shocking decision! Another example showing that Moxey has not got much more than a pea sized footballing brain! Fucking cunt!
I have always been a fan of passing football but it just always seems a struggle for Wolves and i cant see it changing. If we lose next week its goodnight all.
Not sure we can change either. We tried it with Staale and gave it up after 6 months . . . . . for this!
I would hate us to get relegated to Division 1 but if we do manage to stay up Dean will be hailed as a hero, for getting us out of a position he at least partially helped get us into, and will remain in place as manager. If we get relegated I think he will probably still keep his job but there is a slim chance he might resign or get the sack.
Even though the players are mainly to blame for our present predicament, I personally don’t think Dean is the man for the job. We seem to have reverted to the same type of football we played under Mick and have failed with for the last few years. Hit and Hope, putting in a shift and so on. This didn’t work in the Premier under Mick and hasn’t worked in the Championship under Dean. If we were to continue with Dean at the helm I think we will stay in the wilderness of the championship, at best, for some time to come. We need to change to compete and the management of the club don’t seem prepared to do that.
Already Dean is looking to extend the contract of Edwards and SEB and has stated publicly that he wants a team of Steve Hunts. These guys will put in a shift and may help get us out of division one if we get relegated but they have shown they may not be good enough to keep us in the championship and certainly couldn’t keep us in the premiership. I hate to think where we would be without Sako and Siggy this year.
I wouldn’t like it but I could handle relegation if we had a plan – because we all know it will take a couple of transfer windows to get rid of the old guard – the guys who can’t adapt. The problem is that Dean appears to want to keep a number of them. I’m worried that little will change and Lord knows, it needs to.
I think it is possible to play your way out of the lower divisions. Swansea did it and so did Wigan. Hoof and hope doesn’t cut it in the premier any more – I’m not sure how effective it is in the championship these days – it’s certainly not working for us.
What I want is someone in charge with a plan, someone with a vision who knows what he wants and what is needed and can change our playing style to one that can see us move forward to eventually become established in the top division once more. While we’ll all have our different opinions about whom this might be, one thing is for certain – he will need more than the 6 months that Staale was given.
UTW
well now the dust has settled on another defeat as were used to by now ,we hear saunders say that were good enough and should have got something from the game.the only bright note being we,ll lose stephen ward for a few games.i know we won at millwall who are also in freefall but with one eye on the cup tie so yesterday just shows how good we are.its seems that neither saunders or any off the players can create any motivation.only need to look at what billy davies and shawn o driscoll have done with their teams .well done morgan and moxley for sailing us down the river
The report sums up the match perfectly, Forest were slick and incisive in midfield whereas we were laboured. To think we could have had a central midfield of Guedioura and Milijas who would have tore up this league. Massive game next week, probably make or break.
It seems to me these players have to stand up and be counted they have seen off good old MM,then nice but dim TC,new kid SS and now they are not doing it for novice DS. They need a strong character who will come in and kick some ass,get rid of the dead wood and there is a lot of it,who will get like minded players in to get us back where we should be. Is there anyone who matches this description besides Ferguson,Mourinho,Moyes…………….HELP!
Has anyone else just watched the hits v hearts derby , and heard the the commentator compare the Griffith free kick to that of bale or ronaldo . And I read that wolves have no regrets not playing him at wolves . I’m no football expert as boxing has always been my sport. But I know a mistake when I see it . Why can’t they just admit it eh ?
You have to bear in mind that Hearts and Hibs wouldn’t survive in the Championship any more than we will.
The strikers aren’t missing many chances – we’re not creating enough.
Griffiths free kick was no better than Sako’s.
I think you are missing the point.We have been missing a decent target man all season.Someone to hold the ball up,someone to win the ball in the opponents area ,someone to win knock downs and flick ons and someone to who can put the ball in the back of the net. Such a player is essential in the Championship.The Palace Leeds game was a perfect example,two strikers on both sides who lead the line and scored a couple of goals each. We have been lacking that .A base to build your attack upon and even our midfielders would be able to creat something then.It is nothing short of a disgrace that the club have not signed a decent striker after selling Fletcher for £12m.
It was a decent strike and he scored a decent one the other week, but after his outburst on twitter, do you really want him at the club? I for certain don’t.
Nice to see Steve Morgan at Anfield today, perhaps he is there trying to pick up a couple more loan signings from his mates??….you never know, he might be there asking if they can let DS go there for some work experience before the start of next seasons assault on the 3rd division??
Once a red always a red,would like to think he’s there to pick up player’s rather asking for work experience for DS.even though imo its needed and he needs to take those rose tinted glasses off now and wake up to reality and recognize we need player’s in NOW ,Midfielder,Striker, and anyone who can pass a ball would do.
And as i’ve said get rid of ward ,henry, johnson,doyle and alike.then we will turn the corner.
Really big game now Bristol we need to beat ALL the teams around us or else its Div 1.
forgot to say SACK THE FAT MAN POXEY.Its his fault to why we’re in this mess selling the crown jewels,we should have kept them instead of selling.another one of moxey’s bollocks trying to do it on the cheap as usual….If we go down i’m not renewing fuck the £30 quid.
Hey Banbury … Got to ask about that picture mate ?!
You like it London??…the legend himself, playing in Speedo’s and Old Gold, and probably still better than the current lot we have!!
watching yesterday’s chmpionship matches on TV highlight’s the huge differences in quality between our bunch and the rest. To think that we were thought (by us) to be better than Wigan last season -and look at them now – with a proper manager, playing Everton off the park.
Our novice manager seems to want to keep players we know are not good enough – we’ve been watching them for years and he’s just arrived. Then he tinkers about with formations and won’t play a proper right winger. Our management don’t really seem to have any ambtion, selling our quality players and buying or loaning second raters.
We’ll need a lot of luck and other teams to drop points to survive.
Sack the fat man…lets get behind them next week , can’t believe I’m saying but it’s a massive game
Forest fan in peace. Am I imagining things or did Wolves start last season in the Premiership quite well? What on earth has happened since then? Always been one of my second team due to family ties with the area but yesterday, barring 20 minutes in the second half when you huffed and puffed, I dont think I have seen a team set up quite so strangely at the City Ground this season. From your goal kicks, O’Hara and Henry were practically on your 18 yard line, we won nearly every goal kick and you were immediately under pressure due to being so deep. (This against our ‘creative’ rather than ‘combative’ midfield. Similar bizarre set up from our goal kicks. Blake looked bulky however I did like the look of Sako but he received very little support and seemed to lose interest as the game went on.
You even made Moussi look good and I never thought I’d see Halford outpace anyone!
I have deep sympathies as we were in a similar position under Megson and Kinnear. Players who couldn’t give a toss- Impey, Rodgers, Taylor, King to name but a few- and the team was not as good as the sum of its parts and we drifted down to league one without a fight. Hopefully you’ll find some fight and most importantly teamwork but I see worrying similarities between that Forest side and the Wolves one I saw yesterday.
Why oh why you didn’t go in for O’Driscoll, a man who had discussed his affinity to Wolves when we played you earlier this season, I do not know. He could have refined SS’s game and would have brought some good players in to boot whilst dropping any under-performers.
All the best for the rest of the season, hope you do us a favour and beat anyone you have left in the top 10!
Cheers.
Cheers for your sympathy Redman.
Hull, Bolton and Middlesborough are the ones we have to beat for you.
We’ll do it if we can borrow your team for a couple of weeks.
Just about to Early Bird but cannot quite convince myself to do it, It’s not a case of being a ‘fair weather’ supporter, I really am wondering if the product is still worth the considerable cost; if it was just me, I wouldn’t think twice but when you’re paying for family members too, it’s an expensive decision to make.
The Molineux experience is not what it used to be……
Someone help me make my mind up please
Make them wait until the summer, the price won’t go up much,since they will be desperate to sell more tickets then.Bottom line is ,do the people running our club deserve our unquestioning patronage? Why didn’t they strengthen the team in Jan? etc etc
Keep your money in your bank, not theirs. Why let that fat bastard have interest on a product six months before you get to see it?
There will be cut price season tickets aplenty in the close season.
Until then, keep your money safe.
Try putting it under something heavy and not easily moved.
Ebanks Blake, O’Hara or Ward should do.
Keep your money.Go and watch Non-League…it’s brilliant.
Thanks Redman, cant disagree with anything you say, truly depressing times at the mo. All the best to you guys.
Henry needs help , if he is to play, but O’Hara isn’t the man to give it. O’Hara appears to be a off and knows it and is probably only playing on Morgan’s instructions, so that his value is held up for the summer sale. Everything is done at this club with an eye to making money or not losing money. That is probably the reason Solbakken would have been sent packing, he put football ahead of these issues, and Dean Saunders will be kept as long as he tows the line on financial matters.
Me and my dad watched henry and o hara very closely in the last match. Henry was doing all the running, closing down that o hara should have been doing. O hara was more direct with the ball, looking forward, but his hollywood passes were not good. Henry on the ball was very negative, sideways and back, never forward, slowing any momentum wolves had. Next game, watch o hara closely. He is going through the motions. Either he is not fit or doesnt give a fuck or both. For a central midfielder he is very very lazy.
O’Hara can’t run and Henry has no brain therefore both should be dropped.
O’Hara will be off in the close season. Waste of money.
I guess the result was to be expected but I’ve noted a few of us now realising that our midfield is weak and at times laboured. I’ve thought long and hard about next season and should I renew but the biggest worry is that when we go down we will sell our best players. SAKO and Siggy. I’m struggling big time with this one. Any suggestions urgently required…
It would only to be expected that Sako and Siggy – and the other SS signings, would not want to play in the 1st division with Saunders, when they came as part of a completely different scenario. I don’t think many of the old lags would either, but would they find new clubs ? – probably, in the Championship, and we would let them go to save their wages.
We will have quite a different team next season……
If we go down the team will consist of Cassidy, Davies, Doherty, Bathh, Ismail and their peers. I’d imagine Henry might stay being a local lad and captain but I bet the rest will be a mass exodus.
Strangely enough, contemplating that team seemd quite attractive. I can just imaging cheering on a youndg and hungry team, without any of those overpaid non-triers. Even if we should avoid relegation and stay in this div I’d rather start next season with them than with the journeymen.
my grandson loves the wolves so i will renew with aasinking feeling of doom must get the doc togive me anti depression pills
I got the score right at 3-1, unfortunately I got the wrong winners. No great surprise I`m afraid.
The biggest joke though was reading that Ward got sent off as he brought down Greg Halford who was outpacing him. Exactly how crap can Ward get before he`s given a free transfer and shown the door. Being emabarrassed by Halford, just how low has my team sunk. Far enough for me to laugh at an early bird, we are an absolute joke and disgrace. F^^k off Moxey & Morgan.
If i remember right, we turned down £300,000 for Ward in the transfer window from, er, Notts Forest.
Martin… You’re right!
We’ve turned down bids for SEB and Doyle also and DS is the one demanding to keep them all, and he almost rebranded them as new signings with somthing like “they are better than what’s availible for sale”. DS started his appointment with claiming Wolves needed to get rid of players, as there were too many of them.
So his tactics for planning selling and buying players are as good as his tactics on the field. Makes it up as he go. DS’s out on deep water for sure.
As any new manager had a worse win ratio than Dean Saunders? I ve been trying to find stats but can’t find them. Every other championship club who replaced their manager have done fantastic! Trust wolves. Mr morgan does some good things ie acadamey, but footballing decisions!!! Mates rates again i assume. We need to win 5 more. At current win conversion, it would take 50 plus gsmes, not 9. We are down, lets get someone serious in to rebuild from the bottom so we can do well in league one. At the moment i would not trust deano not to get us relegated in tomlesgue 2!!!
Why can’t we do what that lot down the road have done under their chairman and when the opportunity presents itself to replace your manager with someone who is available and with a proven track record, ala Hodgson in for Di Matteo, be more cutthroat and just get on and do it.
Nigel Adkins is still currently out of a job (correct me if I’m wrong), why are we not talking to him??
I take it you mean mr r plant ? The club doesn’t deserve people like him , or people like us for that matter . U T W
Once again, all the prayers on here are assuming morgan gives a shit.
Get it through your heads once and for all, HE DOESNT.
All the talk of new manager, getting rid of greasel, the fat bastard, paying off crap players contracts, etc etc is pie in the sky.
Morgan does not care about the footballing side of things, he just wants as much fithy lucre as he can get his red sticky fingers on, and bollocks to everything else.
As soon as greasel has wrung the last ounce of blood from the Molineux corpse, morgan will fuck him off as well.
Why do y’all think there has been no activity in the transfer/loan windows?
Money!
It would cost, therefore he wont do anything, ever.
I repeat
MORGAN DOES NOT GIVE A SHIT.
Can no one rid us of this pestilence?
Honestly, when was the last time Henry played a decent game and made a difference?
He is just bullocks on pitch and even worse off pitch. DS talks the bullocks talk, but Henry is by far even worse. He is the cancer cell in the group and responsible for sacking all the managers by poisoning the dressing room and afterwards telling it to Moxey – who has been convinced that the manager is the problem, and the players are way better than the results. It had happened time after time now. Henry is good at talking shit. That’s why he is the captain. It’s certainly not for his footballing skills. The last match we won Henry couldn’t prevent our goals. The goals were nice reaction goals not a result from a build up from the mid field. Everything going through Henry will most often be poisened. It’s so bad that you might start think not only that he don’t mind being relegated. It’s so bad now, combined with all his off pitch nonsense, that one might start think it’s his masterplan for retirement – a 40 oddser for relegation.
Best way to not get relegated is to cut the cancer cell for the rest of the season and appoint a new captain. A captain also has responsibility for poor results, but never heard a word of that. Henry promised us (and Moxey),gold as soon as SS was sacked, but we only got shite. Henry out and for god’s sake strip his captaincy.
To Twixfix If wolves are your team try and stay with them. it will be all change and most of the old guard will be gone. As for Sako and Siggy we have them now and we still on a downward spiral. I have to agree with you about the midfield they are so slow and no creativity. The strikers have to feed on scraps. It is no coincidence the amount of goals we concede from outside the box we do not close people down. Not sure when the tide will turn but turn it will. All you fans can do Is get behind the team. I fear it will be div. 1 next season though.
Hiya Pattaya Wolf .. Wolves have been my only team since I was a little lad. the problem with me is that I’ve had enough of the “Jam tomorrow” promises off Moxey and Morgan. The blind shelling out of £1000 each season is frankly in need of serious scrutiny. If I could see the future holding something better then yes but certainly over the past 4 seasons the football is rubbish, the player development is rubbish, the club management is worse than rubbish and what will be served up next year will be more of the same. At todays prices I reckon I have shelled out £75000 in the last twenty years .. DO ANYONE WONDER WHY I’M SEROIUSLY PONDERING RENEWING !
Thanks for your kind thoughts though.
Plus the same again in Twixes!
Yeah, but only half that if you hadnt scoffed them for years!!
I reckon I feed half the Billy Quiet upper tier with Twix’s. In fact I’m getting some shares in Nestle/Rowntrees soon to keep them afloat. The figs dont include the cost of the said treats and all I get from Scooped is a reminder to bring some for each home game..
ccfi : Scooped .. see you on Sat.
You only have to look at where we are to realise who really cares.
Morgan has run club on a shoestring aided by Moxey.
The whole ethos at the club is to squeeze as much cash out of each fan as possible.
M and M have taken us for granted for two long and we are using the only weapon
we have, our cash.
Chickens are home to roost. What’s the betting Moxey will slide out of the door at the end of the season
leaving the mess around the contracts to somebody else to clear up.
Here’s hoping he slides out the door too ( bet there’s a slimy trail following him )
This is really starting to piss me off. The attitude on this site that Moxey and Morgan are just out for profit and care nothing for the football.
Don’t get me wrong. It’s entirely Morgan and Moxey’s fault that we’re in the position we are. That is a cold hard truth.
However, it is not right to demonise them and compare them to the Batti Brothers. Morgans not looking to dismantle the club and auction the parts to the highest bidder. He’s one thing. And one thing only.
Inept.
That’s the reason we are where we are. Mind bogglingly poor decisions made by someone ignorant of the football. I’d bet that the money from the fletcher and Jarvis sales has gone into floating the (albeit decreased) wage bill in lieu of the sky funding that we get from being in the premier league. This keeps the club in the black sure, but in retrospect I’m sure we can all look back and state the money needed to be spent on the team. But to arrogantly state that the money went into Morgan’s pockets I think is unfounded.
Show me any evidence to the contrary and I’ll change my position immediately but to me, we’re in the position we’re in due to rampant ineptitude rather than greed.
That’s my opinion anyway, which is what this good ol’ blog is for
The receipt for avoiding relegation this year:
Bench Henry rest of the season – Sako for captain. Any opposing mischiefers out – replaced by ANY young Wolves players with hunger.
I am writing this on behalf of Martin, a patient of mine and regular contributor on this site, who is too unwell to write at present.
Although previously very fit and healthy, Martin’s health has deteriorated significantly over the past 2 to 3 years.
Visits to my surgery have increased alarmingly; indeed i can hardly remember a Monday morning when i haven’t see him.
His mental state appears particularly fragile and he exhibits classic symptoms of depression, melancholy, general despair and loss of hope.
His behaviour has also become increasingly strange and unpredictable, displaying many of the symptoms of tourettes syndrome. For no reason and quite without warning, he will leap to his feet, his face crimson and distorted with rage. Staring into the distance and shaking his fist, he will unleash a tirade of completely incomprehensible abuse. Insults such as,
“You f***ing useless big- nosed c**t and
“Stick those f***ing pies up your arse you slimey fat lump of sh*te.
Further examination has revealed Martin is a life long Wolves supporter and, quite frankly, his health just can’t take any more. Supporting Wolves has always involved a certain health risk but under the present management regime, i have deemed the risks far too great.
I now realise my tourettes prognosis was wrong (Martin assures me Moxey IS a c**t and he DOES want him to f**k off).
I have told Martin he is not to go to matches until i give him the all clear( to his credit he assures me he’ll “never go again until that fat, overpaid, two-faced lump of s**t is f***ed off”). I’ve also recommended he take a complete break from thinking or writing about the Wolves. I just hope he takes my advice. The trouble is, it’s a very difficult habit to kick.
I’m so sorry to hear about Martin’s troubles.
The same sort of thing seems to have affected my dear husband.
He keeps waking in the middle of the night and shouting “On me ‘ead Waggy!” or “Johnny Richards, I want your love child”.
And lately I’ve woken to find him rubbing me down with a mixture of embrocation and dubbin. (Although I quite enjoyed that).
It came to a head when he woke up screaming “I’ve got the silver bullets, garlic and stake, let’s get the fat bastard before it gets light”.
Perhaps you could take a look at him and see what you could do to help.
Kind regards
The present Mrs DOOGooder.
PS. That was brilliant Martin! You had me going for a moment.
The present Mrs. Martin says she’ll pass on your good wishes when she goes to visit him tonight.
brilliant!! spoken on behalf of all of us!:)
You little blighter Martin. I was genuinely concerned reading the first 3 pars of that! very funny! #blogfamily
Not laughed so much since Deano picked Hunt in front of Pzesko.
Hi Twixfix.
I think the best thing for you todo is to wait until the start of next season. See which division we are competing in. If every fan does this they. The would have make some concession if there are few sales on season tickets. Or just pick your games to suit (a) your budget. (b) team winning games. I have supported the club since I was 6 years and I went home and away for many years when I was of working age up until I left the UK to live here in Thailand. I remember the Bhattis and as bad as things are now nowhere near as bad as it was then, support the team through the bad times and you will appreciate the good times. It will take time to get rid of some of the deadwood I think they will just run their contracts down.
The thing that makes it worse for all us fans is the stripey lot down the road are showing us how a well run club can develop, but hindsight is a wonderful thing. Not many fans would have thought at the time O’Hara and Johonson were purchased they would be such a disaster for the club, to name just two. Best of luck everyone for the rest of the season.
I’m sitting here now dithering what to do about renewing my season ticket, iv’e been a season ticket holder with my son for over twenty years,my sons already done his.really don’t know what to do,weighing up the pro’s and con’s never been so indecisive about renewing.
Help needed,got until 12 midnight,
Don’t do it !!! there’s a huge betting scam going on, word has it, by a bunch of greedy, lazy, slow, talentless fuckwitts who bet HUGE amounts to lose every week. I’d waste, spend my money on croquet.
Seriously J, sign up go with you’re son, time stops for no man i should know losing my Father last year to Alzheimer’s, I have distant memories myself standing in the cavernous southbank as a kid, with more recent one’s in the Steve Bull, watching my Dad lost in the croud. Up the Wolves Johnok.
Yeh’ your right,Chester Wolf, done it,Didn’t take much persuading.
Chester .. Well said ! Could nt agree more . Lost my dad New Year’s Eve . He took me to wolves , his dad took him . Now and again my boy comes with me . It means a lot to remember those times .
Bemused by Morgan’s strategy as pointed out above there are some very good out of work managers and other championship clubs have also picked up very good players on loan. But Morgan seems to prefer to use money to fund a tour of division one. Perhaps Clive ( incidently an old word for a type of druid ) is right and he doesnt give a fuck or maybe he is just plain bonkers.
Thanks Chester and London, you’ve helped me to decide about early bird as well.
My old man was a villa supporter but fortunately my God father was a Wolf and he introduced me to Molineux in 1972 – Wolves v Leeds, what a game, it induced a lifelong attachment with WW.
Nowadays I attend every match with my son and on one occasion we both took our God fathers, four Wolves supporters; precious times that unfortunately cannot be repeated.
Cannot foresee any more good times in the short term but we must live in hope or four decades of commitment to the old gold will have been in vain.
It is great to have these memories, as a kid I always wondered what he meant about Wolves being the team in Europe, of course that’s something I just read about. I’d love my two boys to watch the occasional game at the Mol but at 17 and 18 they know what they want, I’m just thankful they don’ follow any of the usual top five coz they win things.
I see Saunders wants to damage Bristol City. Be careful what you wish for Dean.
I would rather hear nothing or a bland statement about”preparing for the game”,
rather than pointless bluster.
This bloke is very inexperienced and I am beginning to be alarmed at how basic are his
way of managing.
For the record I did not renew this year, I felt things were not going to go well.
My old man was and most of my family are Baggies.
I will only get a season ticket when we get a set up that works and that buys or develops
players that actually want to play for the club
Doesn’t stop me going to the game and I don’t feel a lesser supporter for it.
Incidentally have supported this club since 1959.
Well put Alf .. similar to myself .. if I could sense a strategy that would work I’d be much keener to follow them .. Now if somebody said Moxey was off .. I’d be there like a shot ..
Like you Alfwhite,i have been supporting the wolves since 1959,through thick and thin but
never been so disheartened by whats happened to our club in the past couple of seasons.
It took a lot of soul serching and persuading from fellow wolves blogger’s to get me to renew
last night at 9pm. and by all accounts there’s only about 4,000 taken the carrot so far.
so what ever you decide.UTW.
What a result for the kids last night, with 10 men for most of the match, against a strong United side. What a fc*k*ng result. Well done, bucked me up no end.
I think we should pack the team with our promising youth in Div 1 next season, with a couple of experienced heads we hopefully could rise like Southampton did in a couple of years
its such a shame that it has come to this – wondering whether to renew or not.. how have things been allowed to disintigrate like they have?
Renewed my early bird with my son. It will give us some tear jerking moments in many years time (hopefully if I live that long) when we fondly recall those days out at Walsall and Stevenage. Oh what fun we had on our journey down to the Blue Square. And as my grandchildren sit wide eyed I can regale them with stories of how me and their dad were there at the very beginning when a useless bunch of overpaid tossers took us from the premier league to oblivion in world record time presided over by a hideous scouse monster and his faithful fat troll.
We were joint bottom when I checked 10 mins ago…Leeds drawing 1-1 with Peterborough and Barnsley beating Brighton 1-0…it never rains….
UTW
Results went against us tonight.
Lose on Saturday and we are bottom of the table.
I bet Henry and his mates are already planning how to lose and by how many..
Saunders is a dead man walking, He is totally out of his depth and should be gone if we lose on sat.
How Can he still be in a job when Adkins and McDermott are available.
Walsall won again and could well be passing us as we go down.
Don’t renew yet, I believe Morgan will offer to rent out the Molineux to Walsall if they go up next season, and we play at the bescot….
You really couldn’t make this stuff up could you.
The 5-1 defeat to the Shit seems a long time ago..
and losing 5-1 to them seems not such a bad result now does it as much as it galls us.. would be a bloodwhy great result now
We’re equal bottom now. Barnsley are two points ahead and have a game in hand and are winning a few – mind you – so are Bristol and the Posh.
Its really looking a bit grim now with barnsley winning and posh drawing all we can do now is beat Bristol i’m afraid its in our own hands or feet to get us out of this mess we’ve put our selves in,lets hope we can respond the same way as barnsley have..UTW.
Nige, agree that Saunders is a dead man walking, but can’t see much point in manoeuvring managerially at this late stage…we’ve surely learned from that mistake after last season. If Saunders can’t get a victory against Bristol City, I think its the end for us…accept the relegation, sack Saunders, start again, get rid of the deadwood players who aren’t happy to give 100% for this club. Employ a manager who can take us on a new journey (like Adkins with Soton and Lambert with Norwich) and leave the last 24 months behind us. UTW
I have already accepted Relegation Georgeyboy.
Even if we beat Bristol I cannot see us staying up.
If we have learned from the mistake of last year its to sack the Manager Now and get a decent replacement (assuming he would come) before the end of the season.
Last year the mistake was appointing Conner, instead of accepting relegation and getting a manager in for the last 13 matches who could start to prepare for the championship.
Morgan is blindly hanging on to the thought that we might stay up.
Same mistake as last year…
Sack Saunders now bring in a replacement before he is snapped up by other clubs in the summer. Tell him to prepare for life in League 1.
The problem with this club over the last 3 years is there is no planning ahead.. No plan going forward. It consists of knee jerk reactions all the time and is compounding the problem.
I’ve accepted it too Nige, I just think Bristol City could be the nail in the coffin. Itll make little difference searching for a ‘league 1′ ready manager now and telling him to prepare now. You either sack saunders and bring in a manager who can save us in under 10 games (near impossible for anyone, let alone Morgan) or make the appointment post-relegation..giving the manager a fresh start, a blank cheque (however far that goes I league 1) and a chance to build from the bottom again. Appointing the right man for that specific job with the advice to ‘prepare for league one’ could only backfire, setting an even poorer run of results and starting the manager off on the wrong foot, causing yet more unrest in the dressing room. A friend of mine quipped that ‘wolves need a lie down in league 1 to sort themselves out.’ I couldn’t agree more. Best thing to do is to see this season out with Saunders..if we go down, get rid of DS and start from scratch. If he keeps us up, sack him still (as its still been a relegation worthy season) and still start from scratch, but hopefully with a better calibre of manager (McDermott, Adkins etc.)
IF they do beat us…how smug would mc cindoe be ? but maybe he is a prophet:)
Morgan doesn’t have vision to go for Adkins or McDermott. We need a football man on th board – been saying it for ages. Mind you who in their right mind would come here?
As we say in the Blackk Country ” They have queered the pich” I know exactly what it means but have no idea where the saying comes from. Just seems an appropriate (Proper) reply.
I’ll get me coat !!!!!!
Morgan kept mccarthy too long. Morgan gave connor too long, morgan got rid of stale as soon as he had a bad run. Morgan will stick with saunders until the summer. Very strange as the one manager who had the vision and style for the future good of the club, morgan got rid of asap. Shows morgan knows nothing about football and the club is lurching from on mess to another. Joint bottom of table. We deserve to be where we are.
It looks a bloody awful decision now doesn’t it? Six months to carry out a long term plan – didn’t even have time to get rid of the crap.
Bring in Stale again, and sack Henry and the other mutineer deadwood from the team.
It’s not to late for M&M to admit they took the wrong desicion – in retrospect all can see it. There was impressive results under Stale before the injuries.
Cut Henry and bring in Staale NOW and we might save the season. Staale is the only availible manager apart from DS to have assessed the players and know whom to play. Other managers will need to start again – we don’t have the time. If Stale don’t succed, sack him then. If he succeed – give him full resources next season.
I wish. If only we could turn back time huh!
M&M aren’t big enough to admit they got it wrong.
They’ll stick with Deano and God help us.
Thing is M&M might have big egos, and mistakes can be hard to admit – but there is a big financial penalty for riding their egos here.
I hope they care more for their wallet than their sense of pride.
Moxey admitted that Stale quote “had an astonishing fotballing brain” but problem was he has like quote “oil and water” with the team. They didn’t mix well Moxey said. (We know Henry hated SS, all the time he claimed Wolves would have been top four without Stale).
Well, tile has lapsed since those infamous words from Henry.
We see that the oil and water analogy is really Henry being the water, and Stale being the oil.
M&M should get rid of the water now and get the oil back.
Stick with DS and get relegated. DS is a nice guy, but not good enough strategically with this team.
Step 1:
Change the ‘regime’.
I have never known a farce such as this. M and M couldn’t make a decision to save themselves.
Yesterday get an e-mail saying Early Bird extra-time. Am I stupid, no!
Now we are entering an even more dangerous phase.
These two are desperate for cash. It’s their heroin.
IF Morgan makes any decision in the next few weeks we all know it will just be another cock-up.
Heaven help us. Off to Pompey to see my son. That’s a thought, the fans are buying that club.
I would be up for it but not at any valuation The Two Ronnies come up with.
Fearful of Saturday.
1-5 against The Shit should have been the moment we found some resolve.
Instead we roll over and die. Pathetic.
As a side note, I think its pathetic for anyone to not renew their season ticket purely on the basis of league position/impending relegation. It grinds my gears more than any of the dire performances I’ve seen at Molineux or on my television screens this last 12 months. I was unable to renew for this season as I moved away from the midlands to study in Newcastle but have attended every game since I’v been at home. But more importantly, I would have renewed following our relegation from the PL and I wouldn’t blink about renewing for a season in League One. When it comes to WATCHING our team play, it doesn’t matter what division we are in! These blog threads should be about discussing where we’ve gone wrong/whether M&M need to go/managerial appointments/tactical selections etc. Not people coming to tell us they’re unsure of whether they will be renewing in light of our (ever-growingly) imminent relegation. Financial issues, fine. Family issues, fine. Obviously. We win and lose together at this club, and that is that. Get those season tickets renewed. And if the only reason you won’t is because it will be a League One season ticket, then I question how much you really love this club. I really do.