Before our latest Molineux endurance session, the Wolves press office were trawling through the archives, hastily cutting some clips and adding a seven word strapline like a profound Hollywood tearjerker.
‘Tough times don’t last, tough people do.’
With six points from our last 30, four home wins from 16 and more importantly, a relegation place separated by goal difference, I’d beg to differ.
Hats off to the PR team…
…Concocting a bigger insult in one sentence than the entire season put together takes some doing.
Not content with serving up the most blundering, bungled concoction of misery – both on and off the pitch – we’re all subtly reminded to keep coughing up or be labelled feeble weaklings forever.
Forget the war chest promise; we don’t have to sell our best players; we can get in the top five clubs in England; we won’t do an Albion; we won’t appoint a novice; an £18 million empty North Bank.
Forget it all. Airbrush it from your minds and keep diverting your cash to the very people who will keep wasting it. Or whatever the hell they do with it.
Going on a straw poll conducted around the weathered souls beside me, with hundreds of years of fanatism between them, I can conjure a far more appropriate soundbite to describe this mess.
‘Weak people last. Good people have had enough.’
Jez Moxey has lasted 13 years. Ward, Berra, Foley, Doyle, SEB have lasted 1,000 games between them, but the supporters who remember 1949 and Stan Cullis are driven away. Without a club to relate to anymore, they have nothing left to give.
Bad enough that they’ll never come back, but even worse that they leave with a flea in their ears from the very people who divorced them in the first place.
At least we didn’t lose against Leeds, thanks to a player we’ve all been screaming out for in place of either Johnson or Berra, the latter who doesn’t even want to play for us.
But as is always the case, the same old losers let us down.
The weak ones who outlive the good ones.
Ward, for the millionth time in his career went AWOL, resulting in Sako clumsily covering an entire left flank which resulted in a dubious penalty.
This made it 2-1 to Leeds after our main goalscoring threat did the damage – an opposing player – to break the deadlock.
Varney scored a belter to make it 1-1 before another the impotent Kevin Doyle failed yet again, this time missing the target from 4 yards following a saved Batth header.
The game was a scrappy, unsightly battle from start to finish. Batth was the one bright spot and deserved to be man-of-the-match.
The rest, bar Sako, looked what they were – the fourth worst squad in Premier League history minus its three Premier League performers.
Jez Moxey still insists they should be doing better.
The league table, like those early bird sales, says he’s having a laugh.
No looking good I know but we have to keep hoping!! I believe that if Ben removed that photo of Blake from the top of this home page we will start winning again. The smile on his face makes me puke every time I see, a waste of space along with a good majority of the rest!!!
What the F@!CK is Saunders playing at I was sitting in the Stan Cullis stand I had to turn to my brother and ask ” are we at home today or away ” is this the Molinuxe or Elland Road and the reason I thought the Twilight Zone had descended on me was the fact I could not believe we were playing 1 STRIKER, yes I’ll say it again 1SOLITARY STRIKER at home in the mere and Saunders thinks this is the way to get us out of the SHIT. Make no mistake we ARE GOING DOWN IF SAUNDERS CONTINUES TO ADOPT THESES NEGATIVE TATICES. As for the match it’s self the first half Leeds bossed us of the ball O ‘Hara was doing a Stevie G impression attempting to spray defence splitting passes from our six yard box, Doyle was doing his usual lay backs the emphasis on back in fact he was anonymous drifting in from the right to the middle and back again dreaming of playing Champions League football with Celtic judging by his body language throwing his hands up in the air every time one of his passes went straight back to a Leeds player which was most of them. UBanks was up front on his own balls were being belted up to him and through no falt of his own the Leeds center half was lapping them up when he did get the ball to his feet he. Had no support, no movement there was no wingers so most moves started at the back from Ward who when closed down would just kick the ball against the Leeds player for a throw in. The second half was better we only got the equaliser after Cassidy came on and we went to a 4, 4, 2 . Cassidy played 10 minutes yesterday and made more of an impact than Doyle did all game. The only silver lining was Batth great tackle and block in the first half in our penalty area he got his head to every thing that came his was looked hungry and up for it, if he gets dropped for Johnson to return ill never step foot in the place again while Saunders is in charge. I have a theory why Saunders keeps playing Doyle, Johnson, Ward, Bera and so on because Morgan has told him to, I have vision of Morgan saying to Deano ” im not paying those lazy bastards £25,000 a week to sit at home or on the bench, play them” that can be the only logical, unlogical reason why Deno keeps picking them. MONEY but make no mistake we are going DOWN without a fight play 1 LONE STRIKER. 10 minutes he gave Cassidy just think what he could have done in 90 we had 3 corners in succession after he came on.
Would like to say a special hello to pezza, sgt Walsall ( your old team ) here we come at least it’s only 2 mile down the road be home in time for tea !
Paul, I don’t know if the view from our state of the art multi-million pound north bank is slightly obscured but Cassidy didn’t get on the pitch mate! I agree with your point about us persisting with the same old overpaid tripe week in week out but disagree about the formation. We’ve played by far our best football with one up front, an extra man in midfield and attacking wide players rather than a flat 442, whether fatty blake is the man to play that role is another question. Another case of DS not getting the best out of the players at his disposal for me.
If it wasn’t Cassidy it must of been Sigi my point is who ever came on we were more of a threat than UBanks on his own
Agreed. I think my Gran would have been more of a threat than Blake. But why 5 mins to go before bringing Siggy on? And what the fuck has Cassidy got to do to get another chance? He wasn’t that bad when he played him in that first game. Certainly no worse than Blake and Doyle have been for weeks/months.
Totally agree mate as I’ve said give him a decent run he did it with Batth and he was immense yesterday scored a great goal as well I really think if we give them a chance they will repay us ten fold what have got to lose now, nothing for fuck sake we going down if not
looks very bad at moment with other teams winning but we must stick together in times like this and hope we pull through then have a complete clear out ,which i am sure deano will do at end of season, after listening to him after game quoting that this defence has got 3 managers the sack and i dont intend to be the 4th . hope deano as some money for loan players which we need very badly even if we have to pay over the odds it will be more than worth it to stay n championship. how, morgan moxey, hope you learn this time about all the mistakes you keep making and get the fans back on your side, then we can all be united again and take this great f.c. were it belongs OLDGOLD.
There was no one playing wide as far as I could see unless Doyle was tasked with that job, how many attempts on goal did we have with just EBanks up front on his own he’s not the quickest I grant you but Doyle didn’t fair much better when he was up front on his own. The midfield was to congested, O’Hara was playing far to deep to have an effect, so you agree with Deno 1 STRICKER up front is going to get us out of the mere, your living in cuckoo land mate, god help us !
Playing one through the middle doesn’t mean playing negatively in the modern game mate. Ask Barcelona, Madrid, Arsenal, Spurs, Man Utd on occasions, etc. Not saying we’re anything like in their league but the formation becomes 433 if you’re dominating the game, as is the plan by having an extra man in midfield. We’ve tried playing a flat 442 for bloody ages with this shite group of players and we look terrible in doing so. We just don’t have the personnel to play it. 4231/451/433, whichever way you want to look at it best suits this bunch of eegits. I know one thing, as soon as I see a team sheet that’s got both Blake and Doyle’s names on it I feel like walking out and going down the pub!
We ant Barca, Man United open yours eyes how can we expect to play the same system as them, we don’t have a Messi or Rooney wake up mate, play like Madrid are you serious, ok who do you suggest is Ranaldo I despair Madrid, jesus
No, but playing 5 in midfield should strengthen our team defensively. That’s the thought behind it. And if we’d done a clean sheet we would have won 2-0. And we changed to 4-4-2 during the game, so I believe it was a sensible approach. Of course we need the right players to succeed.
You just confirmed my point it’s to defensive, draws are no good to us now we need wins I rather win 2 And lose 2 than draw 4. Even if we draw every game we would still be relegated playing defensively is how we got in this mess, MCCarthy tried it TC tried it and so did Stale. There’s an old saying ” the best form of defence is attack “
Do you go to our games mate? If you thought Cassidy played yesterday maybe not! Have you watched us painfully try to play 442 for about the last 3 seasons under 4 different managers and fail miserably? Just because we’d be playing 2 up front doesn’t mean we’re automatically more attacking, it just doesn’t work like that! Unless you can dominate the midfield and create chances for them you can have 6 up front if you want and we still won’t score! We play our best football in a 451/433/4231 formation. And no you don’t have to be Barcelona to play like that, many teams do it successfully now in modern football, and play good attacking football in the process. And if you’re looking for our attacking flair player of the Bale/Messi/Ronaldo mould, (Relative to the shit division we’re playing in of course-I’m not fuckin stupid!) then look no further than Sako. When we get him on the ball, he can piss all over defences so DS should be looking at getting more out of him and not pinning him down to the left wing and asking him to chase back, cover shit defenders and give penalties away!
Yes, but I don’t have x ray vision and at the time I was taking a leak. My point was we where more of a threat with 2 strikers than 1 on his own. And thinking Saunders would give him a go naturally thought he had put Cassidy on. Why he doesn’t play is beyond me.
McCarthy played Doyle up front on his own for the best part of the last Premier season as did TC and Stale did, we haven’t had a settled pairing of strikers since we went into the Premier League or even tried to get a settled partnership up front. It either been Doyle on his own most the time or as like yesterday EBanks or Flecther, who was occasionally pair with one of the other two.
I’d still maintain that we’ve consistently looked better with one through the middle and trying to give our wide midfielders a bit more licence. This also lets us play 3 in the middle and protect our shit back 4 slightly more, fuck knows they need it! I do think this could work with Sako and Siggy out wide, as it did at Leicester. The noticeable factor there was that Doyle wasn’t in the team! Maybe you’re right and it’s just that we haven’t hit on the right front 2, mainly cos we haven’t been trying very hard. If I see Blake and Doyle up front together in a 442 again I shall fuckin scream! Totally agree with you about Cassidy, if I were him I’d be asking to go back to Tranmere. If he doesn’t even bring him on with 10 mins left when we’re losing at home, when on earth is he ever gonna use him?! Apologies for previous comment, was just a bit peeved at a couple of your previous replies!
He meant Ziggy but then both Ziggy and Cassidy should be starting as our strikers.
Instead we play two men so used to losing they don’t know how to win anymore.
Certainly not in a Wolves shirt.
Something is terribly wrong.
I think we are going down unless the losers are dropped.
Your right why not , give them a go what have we got to lose at least they want to do well, I carnt see how Saunders can justify sticking with Doyle, I’d try the pair of them together. We are in the last chance saloon.if we are going down lets go down fighting and I believe the Batth, Cassidy, and Sigi are up for the fight.
What a great performance ,,,energy verve, skill and commitment. The new signings have kept the boys on their toes and lets face it losing Johnson, Berra,ward and foley was always going to help freshen things up, competition is everything in footy. I do think what if when I hear Doyle is scoring 1 in 3 for Celtic but think its best he’s gone…lets push on to the premiership again now…and hey if we fail there is always the FA cup and I’d bet my house this new vibrant team built on the academy boys and hungry fast paced young footballers will get us where we want ASAP, the mix f experienced defenders to complement the likes of bathe really seems tomwork. forever wolves
FAO Edward Shotton – still think this is the fans fault?
Another weak performance against one of the worst teams in the country away from home. I give up. Stopped caring, don’t even bother checking the other scores now, they are irrelevant we are certainly going down. We are going to get overtaken by the manager we could have had O’Driscoll and we already been left for dead by the managers we did have MM and Dave Jones. I’m getting depressed just writing. Moxey and Morgan need to go and soon. Is it too soon to start worrying about 3 consecutive relegation’s?
Boycott the new stand next year if you want Morgan and Moxey out, the campaign starts here.
When wolves have been relegated the whole ground will be empty not just the new one.
And no it’s not to early to worry about a third relegation. This looks and feels just like the last time it happened.
sadly i think you are right…one word fits-LEMMINGS!
I have always maintained that bellowing our support from the terraces even louder will not make one jot of difference to the predicament we are in, it is not a case of more fervent support resulting in better results, life and football in particular seldom works like that. The true problem at the club lies with the owner and his bonus seeking lacky. I totally agree with you Thomas, I was split between feelings of anger and amusement over the latest PR crap, the pathetic call to arms of the very people that they are blatantly and shamelessly fleecing.
I will not be sucumbing to the rather shabby early bird discount and no amount of empty gestures on the clubs part will change that, I doubt even half price would tempt me.
It has been muted that a protest be organised for the Cardiff game, a demonstration starting at Morgan’s new Compton development and making its way to the ground. Sounds like a plan to me, one that I would happily participate in, I would of course not be going into the ground, that would defeat the object. Anyone else out there seen this or have any thoughts of the way forward, the time has come for action and to show just how “tough” we really are.
Fifteen games to go…..
Form guide…………………..
Number of points from the last 10 league matches, for the bottom 9 Clubs (listed in descending points order):
B’ham 14
Bolton 12
Udders 8
Sheff Wed 21
Tractors 12
WOLVES 6 (six)
Barnsley 16
Bristols 13
Posh 17
It is to the top of the pyramid one must look for answers.
Unfortunately the 2Ms would appear to be concerned only with their own ££££s and, as far as the football club is concerned, many would conclude those two know not whether they want a sh1t or a haircut.
“(listed in descending points order):”
ie in current league position after 31 games (for most of them).
He’s here, he’s there ………. he’s building everwhere …… f**k the fans
This week marks 20 years since the release of Groundhog Day.
For those of you who haven’t seen it (shame on you) the film centers on Phil Connors (Bill Murray), a weatherman who finds himself living the same day over and over again.
Things aren’t quite that bad for us, we’re just having to re-live the same Saturday once a fortnight.
20,000 Phil Connors occupying the same seats, watching the same players make the same excruciating errors.
It’s everything that the movie encapsulates; tragic, depressing, inevitable, but ultimately so utterly ridiculous it becomes funny.
As you rightly point out mate, the ‘tough people’ video was nothing more than propaganda. An insult to the intelligence.
If you haven’t seen it yet, don’t waste your time. Watch this instead. It’s much more appropriate:
Haha. So true. I would actually prefer to watch worse players than Berra and Ward (are they out there?) just for the sake of it – I know what they are going to do before they do. Familiarity really does breed contempt.
Its not just groundhog day for us , it’s groundhog years. The Bhatti years all over again
Nice analogy Thomas.
Which one of SM and JM is Punxsutawney Phil?
And I would still like to boff Andie McDowell!!
When are we going to win!? At the end of last season, I was kinda happy that we got relegated because I believed (how wrong) that we would win many more matches yet we keep losing? Yes the performance has improved but not the results. It’s embarrassing now. Who would have thought to say you suppport wolves is embarrassing!
The best reason for wanting Wolves to be in the premier was that you could only go down to the Championship… but once there.. you can drop further and further…..right to Tamworth in the Blue square.
If we drop to league one, expect Morgan and Moxey to disappear
ben mate-once again a fantastically well worded piece…im feeling beyond sad now beyond pessimistic beyond any chink of hope that tried to bring a glimmer of hope from the thick fog that is the wolves. mr morgan thankyou for singlehandedly destroying my club by your greed and inneptitude..thankyou fat mr moxey for robbing the club i have supported since the mid 70s . you with your greed and stubbornness have totally robbed us of success or at the least premier league football for the working man and woman ….enjoy your money at our expense.wolverhampton doesnt want you!!!!!!! sorry for rambling guys – just so fed up
The nearest I’ve come to playing football is on public parks. The nearest I’ve come to coaching a team is turning a 6-0 loss for my son’s primary school team into a 4-0 win against the same school when the teacher in charge asked me to help. Yes, I’ve played Football Manager. Yes,. I’ve taken Wolves to the Champion’s League. But really, I’m just an observer who, when about 5 years old, devoted himself to the most romantically named team in the country who happened, at that time, also to be the best. About five years ago I muttered to my wife (who foolishly was in the same room as me when Wolves were on TV) asking why no-one at the club seemed to realise that if you didn’t let any goals in you couldn’t lose. Every now and then you might accidentally score a goal in which case you got three points rather than one. But, as a rank amateur when it comes to anything to do with football, I have wondered ever since why Wolves didn’t invest from the back forwards. Perhaps, secretly, I thought the professionals knew better. Or should know better.
And then I read this comment on the BBC from DS:
“If you can’t defend goal-kicks, long throws and free-kicks then you will concede goals and I have got to do something about it. Three managers have got the sack because the team have been conceding goals and I won’t be the fourth. I have been trying for three weeks to get things done but have not been able to get anyone in that we can afford. It is a necessity now.”
Bloody hell, I thought, has the light actually dawned? Admittedly several years too late. But why has it taken an ex-centre forward to realise that our major and long term problem has been at the back? Have not the owner and CEO and previous managers looked at the stats of goals conceded over the past five years and thought, bloody hell, we should do something about that. And so, now, after the transfer window has shut, the manager determines it is time to do something about this obvious and repeated problem. Too little? Too late?
I have a horrible feeling….
My thoughts on Morgan and Moxey are the same as the vast majority of other folk on here so I’ll leave the latest round of deserved constructive hatred towards them for somebody else. As for the game yesterday, once again my opinion that the tit they have appointed to get us out of this mess may not be up to the task has only strengthened. Yes, I heard his comments afterwards that certainly imply that he’s thoroughly pissed off at not been backed in January and I feel for him because of this. However, yesterday was another example of him not utilising what he has available well enough. When we saw the starting 11 we were trying to debate who would be playing where. When the game started, it took a good 20 mins for us to settle into any kind of pattern of play to establish what in fact was happening. Unless I’m majorly wrong, O’Hara played the first 5 mins on the right hand side! We did improve a bit then but yet again DS used his substitutes later in the game appallingly. The world and his wife could see the game slipping away from us in the 2nd half and Doumbia becoming more and more anonymous. Unlike Solbakken had at any point in his reign, DS has players at his disposal capable of coming on and effecting a game but consistently fails to use them until it is to late. He left Doumbia on until after they had scored their second which had been coming from the moment they equalised. Then he left his next change until 2 minutes to go. Why no Cassidy? I’d be banging on his door in the morning asking to go out on loan again if I were him! And going back to his interview afterwards, while rightly bemoaning the lack of funds to bring in defensive re-enforcements, he also describes us as playing some of the best attacking football in the league! What planet is the man on?! If Sako gets injured we’ll finish bottom by 20 points! Rotten to the core.
I can’t make up my mind whether Saunders is inept or just inexperienced but either way I can’t help thinking, Come back Stalle all is forgiven.
More alarmingly, in an interview with him the other day he revealed that he’s taking regular advice from Ron Atkinson, Grahame Souness and Arthur Cox. Forward thinking and inspiring eh!
God help us – nobody else will.
I gree, everyone around me and I suspect in the home areas were screaming fo the subs to come on 10 minutes into secound half and what does he do 10 minutes plus added on time and he acts it’s a credit to those players that in that time they made a difference whoever they were
Ward did not make a decent pass all afternoon and as Ben pointed out , went missing at the time of the penalty. Doyle, should not be on the pitch, his one shot on goal was pathetic, I have never seen a striker so short on confidence, his contribution was minimal. Ebanks the same, Doumbia the same, OHara having to play so deep to get the ball was not a threat .
Tactically humping long balls up the park , few players having the nounce or confidence to get it on the ground and pass the bloody thing.
What a mess, we are truely in the shit , I hope when Saunders states he is going to do something about the defence he is talking about the left back position. In midfield surely Davies contributes more to our game than Doumbia. Upfront give the kids a chance like Cassidy, if the big names are not producing – they cant do any worse.
It’s the mantra repeated by all the managers: the players are low in confidence, they don’t believe in them selves. It’s not positive at all. The positive is that we don’t lose. We are a tougher team to play against. And if we had attackers that could challenge the oppositions defence on their own, or at least strikers that could create chances by having a strong presence in the box (making a bit of a havoc), we would win matches again.
“I was shocked how poor Wolves were for a side only relegated from the Premier League last season. They look seriously in trouble of relegation…” From Vital Leeds … says it all
when i saw wolves thrash Bristol city back in December, i thought these two teams are in totally different leagues, how wrong i was, now only 2 points separate us from one of the worst sides in the division…what has happened since that fine away win?
Contrasting boardroom decisions.
How long you got??? It could take a five hour yomp around Tintern to talk you through the shambles:)
Now DS has come out and said something we’ve all been saying for ages,
(I NEED NEW PLAYERS)
We need to bring players in.IMO. We need a big striker,left back ,quick and pacey midfielder,left sided centre back,then we may have a chance of staying up.Mistakes were made and they are still happening,ie players being picked to play when they are shite, Doyle, ebanks, henry, ward, berra, changes needed STRAIGHT AWAY .
A QUIET BUT VISIBLE PROTEST
As the infamous Wolves v Leeds of 1972 was my first match, I thought it appropriate that yesterday should mark my departure, leaving seats empty at the front of the upper Stan Cullis may have gone unnoticed but I cannot stand to watch yet another set of away supporters celebrating under my nose.
my sympathy leds mate …i rarely walk out early but cant even bring myself to go any more..total crap!!!
Get rid of this numpty and use a psychologist – Deja vu a looming. Saving money are Numbty and Dumbty fucking mental. We can’t defend mediocre attackers and we can’t score without assistance. At least Solbakken had a plan. That porky money muncher takes half our annual nett profit as what? I apologise to you all for the anger in my fingers
Same old same old. The result was as predictable as the team sheet. Four managers have persevered with Doyle. We need goals and he’s never going to get them. When the club gleefully announced that the chairman himself has intervened to persuade him to stay, I surely can’t have been alone in thinking that cretinous scouse git is just rubbing our noses in it now?
This week’s crumbs of comfort: 1) Batth comes in, plays well and scores. 2) After a month of towing the party line and reciting the well-rehearsed lines of Moxey’s PR man (e.g. “…we won’t be held to ransom…”) Deano finally broke cover to reveal he needs to sign ‘players we can afford’. For me that statement sum up the problems at this club. We’ve got a team full of has proven failures that have insufficient ability and certainly no intention of taking us anywhere near the Premier League again. We have millions in the bank and yet we sign no-one. The club and even Deano himself have been trying to spin the transfer window as footballing decisions made by the manager. It’s clearly not true. Deano had targets, Morgan wouldn’t pay.
So the transfer window has come and gone and we’re warching familiar faces churning out familiar dross with all too familiar results. It’s painfully obvious to anyone watching that we need new blood to freshen up the whole attitude of the team. Deano, please don’t be crippled by the favoritism that saw McCarthy off. Henry, Ward, Doyle, Berra, Foley: I don’t don’t that they are fine professionals that turn up for training on time, stick to their diet plans and send flowers to their Moms on Mothers Day. The problem is, I’m looking at the pitch and seeing repeated failures achieving repeated failure and I’m sick of the sight of them. If Morgan won’t pay for better, play the kids for god’s sake.
I bet Batth doesn’t play in the Barnsley game.
He should replace Berra when Johnson is back
This club is doomed. Relegation is not a possibility it is a certainty. The teams below have changed things and have begun to win games. I doubt if Wolves will win more than 3 games in 2013.. and that includes being relegated.
The defensive problem is half solved now. Just drop Berra and play Margreitter. Oh and tell Sako that he must not enter his own penalty area under any circumstances. Sako was chasing the guy because Berra had gone missing and Ward was covering for him. Sako can’t tackle. Berra is useless… doesn’t make the left full back job any easier. Just for the record the last good left back we had was Naylor and all the fans got on his back too.
The attacking problem, Play Sigurdsson in the middle. Batth showed what a tall guy can do for our crosses. Play Pezsko on the right to provide crosses. Play mcalinden alongside Sigurdsson. The lads a goal machine. Ohara and Henry in central midfield. Henry to win the ball. Ohara to continually spread play wide. Job Done.
In terms of wanting to win most of this team have given up. They won’t be here next season when the club plays in Div 1.
Supporters stay; players move away.
One last thought, I wonder if Saunders will walk away before the end of the week ?
Margreitter – Is he still on the books?
He was on the bench
after witnessing another feeble excuse for football if thats what suanders feels we should be watchin then get rid of him now,the opposition must be lookin forward to playin us as we are not gonna provide a threat to anyone with the team weve got,i saw aggression outside the ground before and after the match than anything during 90 minutes on it.we don,t need moxley or morgan ,suanders to tell us its the players fault we can work that out for ourselves.
the fix is simple that if their not doin thier job get rid and put someone who wants to give blood for the club a go.its so bad now that instead of looking forward to matchdays i dread them and are daft enough to pay to watch aswell
Agree completely…..
There were six players, Ward, Foley, Henry, Berra, Blake, Doyle who should never play again.
Siggy and Cassidy should play upfront.
The mentality of these six players when it comes to a football match is to not win.
They are used to it.
It is a habit and they should go.
We should play anyone instead of them.
Baath’s psychology is not used to losing, which is why he played well yesterday.
It’s the mentality, not the footballing ability, which makes us losers.
I agree with everything your saying, but did not think that Foley had that bad a game, alltough on the whole as not been good this season.
Well said Ben and others. How about two new full-backs, play Johnson and Batth in the centre, and play Sako up front to be our ‘Drogba’! Get rid of Henry, he’s a liability, play some in mid-field who have commitment without getting booked or sent off, and feed Sako in his new position!
As a “southerner”, for whatever reason I decided to support Wolves after attending a stirring 3-3 draw at West Ham in the late sixties. Even then we threw away a 1-3 lead.
I toughed it out thru the Bhatti Bros. I endured some pretty bleak outings to old third and fourth division grounds waiting for Graham Turner to take over and steer us back towards the promised land. But I’m sure supporters older than me have far better tales of dedication to the cause.
Why then do I now feel a burgeoning sense of emptiness whereby after all these years I care not whether we stay up or go down ? My heart goes out to those of you native to the region for whom “don’t care” is not a readily acceptable option.
I would settle for petro-dollars or no money at all over this debacle.
I suspect Hertford that you do care but you don’t see it as devastating as it was last time round. I believe that may be because even if you are in the premier and having a decent season, like the Albion, all you can look forward to is survival. Thats as good as it gets – you ain’t gonna win anything – you not even gonna qualify for Europe. So does it really matter what league you are in ?
Back in Bhatti days it was still possible for Villa, Forest and Blackburn to be champions and win European cups (not Blackburn). It won’t ever happen again for them and it won’t happen for us either.
I suspect you are right pferdepferde but in previous seasons I’ve always preferred a relegation scrap to the mid table wilderness. Surviving by goal difference feeling like a triumph with everything being relative, as you suggest. This more recent grieving is more akin to poking a cocktail stick into a sore gum. Using pain to combat pain. I occasionally flirt with the possibility of taking up with another team; perhaps one in Europe so as to lessen the degree of infidelity but as you know……..it’s never the same. Once you’ve committed you’re in for the long haul. Sadly that’s not the case for most players and seemingly most of the Board.
I started watching Real Madrid games regularly…. and they immediately started losing ! I can make anyone lose it seems.
I have adopted at least one team in each major European league but I have cursed them in a way similar to yourself. The obvious choice for the Bundesliga is Wolfsburg. They have at least won it once since being blighted by the burden of my support but normal service has been resumed of late.
Ben, i was going to write about the same thing – the motto, tough times dont last, tough people do. Are they having a laugh. For any wolves fan, that is still undecided whether morgan/moxey are pathetic, you just have to understand the hidden meaning of that phrase. Is it a co-incidence that it came out on early bird day. They are saying dig deep, be blinded by what you are actually witnessing as if you dont get your early bird, you are a weak and feeble person. You are not tough. It is one of, if not, the most disgraceful message to wolves ever. Defo up there with the pie and the pint saga. So, if i dont renew or get early bird, does that mean i dont love wolves. If i dont get it, it is because the money will not be spent on wolves first team squad. It will be spent on houses, musuems, stands and ither pointless “nice to haves”. Whoever authourised the use of that saying should be sacked. Having watched wolves for last 12 months, can anyone actually say the good times are round the corner. That if we sign one or two players the good times will return. The club is rotten and it will take many years to turn it around.
Yes its a typically shallow soundbite like so many others we’ve heard from our disingenuous ceo.
I bet he was patting himself on the back at this oh so glib Americanesque effort at re-writing “when the going gets tough”. And dont you think Jez is loving rubbing our noses in the subliminal message that he’s going nowhere? After all, he’s tough isnt he & we’re all weak, fickle, numpty fans.
Still it resonates perfectly with Moxeys DNA that yesterday saw no less than 8 Wolves mascots @£250 each, empty seats shrouded in BMW banners and the obscenity that is our once proud clubs commercial association with a payday loan company who wud be very pleased to lend us money to give to Jez @ c 3600%apr.
How can Poxey not have been sacked. If he had worked in any other place he would have had the heave-ho long ago. He takes ineptitude to a whole new level. Angry fingers again
Shaking my head in utter disbelief at the video. How wrong-headed, on every level, is that? Terry Connor in a starring role! Just to remind you how inept M&M truly are, in case you’d forgotten.
They deserve nothing more than to have all the fans voting with their feet.
At least Bill Murray is funny.
Amongst the spin Moxey gave to the ‘Birmingham Mail’ was the following quote;
‘I think I care more about Wolverhampton Wanderers than anybody else. I absolutely believe that’.
The man has been at the club for what, 12 years, and thinks he cares more about it than those of us who grew up as small kids wanting only to pull on the old gold shirt ? Those of us who have spent money we could ill afford to follow the club over decades ? Those of us who queued overnight in the cold for tickets for big matches ? Those of us who stood in the rain at a 90% empty Molineux as the club sank like a stone ? Those of us who drove huge distances to watch HOME matches ?
Does his contempt for the supporters know no bounds ? In one sense he is right, of course. He cares about the club because its the club which pays his obscene, bloated salary, (and no doubt he will care about it until he moves on to take on his next commercial post). But he cares about it for all the wrong reasons…
If Moxey really cared about the club he would walk away tomorrow, he has no shame and quite simply we have to get him and Morgan out of our club, the rebuilding process can only start once they are gone and the best way to get them out is to starve the club of income, let Moxey explain a wacking great loss to his adoring boss, lets see how much Morgan likes that.
‘The game was a scrappy, unsightly battle from start to finish.’
I actually thought that once we got into the game after 20 minutes or so that we played some decent football, and were certainly the better team for long periods of the game. What let us down, and what has plagued us for far too long, is not being good enough where it really matters: scoring enough goals and not being able to stop them going in the other end.
For all our midfield dominance for large spells, we didn’t do enough in the final third, and we are – as we have been for far too long – too easy to score against.
We’re certainly not playing the kind of agricultual hassle and harry football I feared we might under Saunders, and to those who are labelling DS Morgan’s ‘Yes man’; listen to his frustrated post-match comments to hear him throwing down the gauntlet to Morgan and the board for backing in the transfer market in an manner never witnessed so explicitly by messers McCarthy and Solbaken.
We need to start picking up points fast, and to do that we need a couple of experienced defenders, and a striker or two with a cutting edge in the next week.
DS has made clear what he wants and needs; so forget the usual rhetoric from Moxey (which in my opinion, still demonstrates an element of contempt towards us supporters) – and lets see what Morgan’s ambitions for this club really are … something that, once and for all, will be clear for all to see over the next week.
footballers are cun… at the best of times so i dont think giving them a 30 percent pay cut is a good idea they should have got rid off them all when we stayed up by the skin of our teeth in the prem, im pleased for batth it just shows our kids can play give them a chance because 4 managers have played the same team and i dont think they are good enough.
And what makes it worse is when they do win you get karl henry talking to the papers like he is ronaldo lol
What a mess, an absolute farce, the players are just not good enough, nor do they have fight. The management have made more mistakes than RBS. Even the most die hard wolves fans have now simply had enough (and I speak as a season ticket holder of the past 6 seasons) I’ve just had it with the wolves, I just don’t enjoy going to the games any more, in fact they have succeeded in completely ruining the pleasure of football for me. No more, I can’t stomach this unending nightmare any more – simple as!
Well, I really enjoyed it. That is the pint and pork bap in the Great Western beforehand. Then I went to the match.
Everybody’s said it all really. But to those who advocate playing kids, whenever Davis or Forde play, you all moan and say they’re not good enough. So who do we play? I was very pleased with the contribution of Batth, and I think Davis deserves an extended run in the team as Doumbia is proving so disappointing. We also ought to have a look at Doherty at right back. and maybe Ebanks-Landell, who’s on loan to Bury. Cassidy might make a good impact substitute, but give him 20 minutes, not 5.
Also I don’t think Saunders makes the best use of Stale’s signings, it’s ironic that he has more of them available than Stale ever did. Surely Sigurdarson is worth a start, and what about Peszko, who wasn’t even in the squad? And why, when the defence is so inadequate, isn’t Margreiter given a chance? If he’s fit enough to sit on the bench surely he could play a game of football. And I certainly hope Boukari will play when he’s fit.
The other day Saunders was bemoaning the number of right wingers in our squad, including Peszko, Boukari and, er, Siggy. So his answer yesterday was to drop them all and play without anyone on the right.Bizarre.
we desparately need a new manager. Warnock has had his day, the team just aren’t improving and he needs to go!!!
Like others have commented above, If the manager and everyone else who keeps harping on about the players “loosing mentality” and “Premiership relegation hangover”, why do they persist in playing those very same individuals.
The new signings and youngsters (ie. Batth) clearly show some fight and determination that the Wards and Doyles have clearly lacked for so long. They don’t show the head dropping acceptance of it all.
I am getting bored with saying it but why oh why oh why do we persist with Doylw when the youth,fulness energy, and willingness, passion and dare I say it skill, of Sigurdarson is warming the bench?
Why return a (albeit League 1) proven goalscorer to the squad and continue with a goal drought striker in Doyle.
It makes absolutely no sense to me what so ever.
And that is before even entering Left Back territory…….a weakness it seems that now 4 managers and several transfer windows have failed to tackle…….No punn intended!
I am at a loss. Devout almost of caring anymore.
Well, I really enjoyed it. That is the pint and pork bap in the Great Western beforehand.
AHHH Well said that man. It was my local Mon – Fri in the 1989 91 era. I was in there a few months back same old same old but no Bathams.
Oh it’s a football blog, never mind eh.
Oh dear. The trap door is creaking open. What a shambles – Doyle should never play for this club again. Every time the board went up for a sub I couldn’t believe Doyle was left on the pitch. As for the Pieman – what a crap player Ebanks Blake really is. Fat,useless, continually offside (he couldn’t time an egg let alone a run) and I have seen more control in a wet dream!
Saunders is way out of his depth and this team is going down make no mistake about it.
Morgan you should hang your head in shame.
Season ticket holder since 1979……. Moxey& Morgan out or times up for me. But all my WWFC tattoos will never NEVER change. WTID !!!!!!
Sorry I have just read the managers thoughts on the Wolves website. I should have read them before I posted my earlier message. Saunders said going forward we were as good as anyone in the league. Oh my god now I know we really are in the shit.
southbank season tivket holder,iv not been too last three home games i cant take any more,we are in freefall,and i won t return to moliineux til them two clowns are out of our club,they are killing it,those players have been flogged for last thrrec years and are stil there,solbakken was pushed out this club cos iw was obvious he wanted new players and theu wouldent back him,the only way to hit that club is too protest boycott the club,all of you fans out there we need to make a stance against thes two mupperts
EARTH CALLING CLIVE!!! are you awake oh scribe in a state within the states!
He’s lost for words
moxey out!! morgan out!!
Moxey must have 100% of the blame laid at his door, he is the one with the job responsibly solely to our beloved Wolves. Morgan is, however, captain of a larger combine and can only give a % of his time to us; He must rely heavily on Moxey to steer us in the right direction. It is with this in mind that I believe Morgan is either unaware how inherently bad things have become or that twat is lying to him.
Steve Morgan could do worse than read the excellent Celtic article in the Observer today. The team is made up of players from Africa,Australia,Scotland,England,Wales,Europe,Middle East,Central America and S America. Celtic have become experts in ‘shopping in undervalued markets’ and know they will only hold onto players for a few years.For a collective outlay of £10 million on players,they expect to reap a profit of five times that from sales. Their success is the culmination of a five-year plan based on ‘covering your risks and securing value for money on every transaction’. A good example being Gary Hooper,£2.4 million from Scunthorpe and now playing in the Champions League.They have already received a £9 million bid for him. All profits made are re-invested in the Club,be it state-of-the-art training campus,youth academy,sports science centre or a ‘Football Development Manager’. Their C E says ‘it’s all about building a sustainable long-term economic plan’. If Celtic can get it so right,how come Morgan can get it so wrong?
I was bored watching the match on Saturday so my attention was drawn to the Wolves players boots. Has anyone noticed what a bunch of prima donnas we have got here? Orange,pink,yellow, every colour under the sun – is this supposed to be some kind of statement? Like we have played in the premier league so we get to wear fancy boots. What a bunch of tossers!
Linden I noticed that too. Think it devalues the colors.
We should have won that game. Noticing DS’s body language, it said I am struggling with this lot.
If we don’t get some decent loaners in we are doomed. In reports DS sounding like SS. In other words what those lying bastards told me ain’t gonna happen.
It is essential DS loses whatever residual faith he has in the current crew ASAP. Only then can he look at the entire squad in a fresh light and ask himself questions like: ‘who is up for a fight and who is just treading water and waiting to go’. Let Doyle go to Celtic on loan and get him of the wage bill. Then pretty much anyone whose contract expires in the summer should be dropped. They will not care what the outcome of the season is as they will not be here after the end of the season. There are some who may want to fight for a new contract. Who knows Peszko may be daft enough to want to get a permanent offer. Daft is good. We need, assuming none of the youngsters are going to get a look in, a left back and a left sided central defender on loan tomorrow. A pair who can keep Sako out of our penalty area and, instead, tearing it up down the left wing. A front six of Sigurdarson and Cassidy, Sako and Peszko on the wings, Davis and O’Hara in the midfield. A back five of Ikeme, Foley, Batth, perhaps Johnson (though I am far from convinced) and two new faces. Fit, keen and hungry youngsters on the bench: Ismail, McAlinden, Doherty, Rekord. Kids you can throw on 20 minutes from the end after telling them you want them to crawl off the pitch with nothing left to give. Someone to die for the shirt – as all of us would do if we had any footballing talent and had a contract at the club we love (OK, and were 35 years younger in my case).
Personally I wouldn’t care too much if they made mistakes (cos they will) as long as they give 100% and play with pride, passion and ambition, both for the club and themselves. All those somewhat old-fashioned attributes Southampton showed when they embarrassed those overpaid tossers from Man City.
All those coloured boots was like watching a rainbow. Zippy and Bungle would be better full backs than our two and I bet Geoffrey wouldn’t get caught offside as much as the pieman!
A least a point is better than nothing. I still have a new theory. If we go down which at this point may happen, I think Morgan really wants to bankrupt the club. No one will come in and buy and unfortunately, our club could go into liquidation.
Club goes up for sale, no one buys. Property taxes etc are owed to the city of Wolverhampton. Deadline set, no one buys, the name Wolves goes away.
Morgan Scumbag Scouser as he is, somehow finds money (the mystery money in offshore bank accounts) makes a cheap offer to the city of Wolverhampton to buy the Molineux ground. City of Wolverhampton sells, construction starts by pulling down the grounds so he can build luxury condos or town-homes with mix use developments of shops, restaurants etc.
Morgan and Moxey become rich, they may even sell part of the land to ASDA so they can expand as well. Don’t put it past these pricks to be in on such a scheme. I DON’T TRUST EITHER ONE OF THEM…………………………………
You’ve just said the un-sayable! Please don’t go there. If that happens – I’ll be up for two counts of murder!
Not if I get in there first you won’t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Boardroom Howlers
The scene: Monday morning. Club owner – Navvy- stands looking at a series of majestic paintings in the board room when club CEO – Roxey- burst through the doors.
Roxey: Hi Boss! What you looking at?
Navvy: This painting Roxey! It a genuine Haddock, brilliantly capturing the day our glorious club won the champions league and was promoted to the premier league under manager Mick!
Roxey: (Cough) Ahhh.. the good old days… yer… anyway…what are these others paintings of?
Navvy: (pointing to the next painting) Well this one’s of Ilove-Flakes., scoring his 35h goal of the season…
Roxey: Er..um..
Navvy: (pointing to the next painting) And this one captures McWardy brilliantly passing a ball to a member of his own team member after masterly tackling an opposition striker.
Roxey: Er..um..
Navvy: (pointing to the next painting) This one’s of Snarl leaving the field, at the end of the game without being red carded and having successfullycompleted 30 tackles.
Roxey: Er boss…
Navvy: Yes Roxey?
Roxey: Except for the first painting…all the things in these other paintings never really happened!
Navvy: You bloody idiot Roxey!It’s called ARTISTIC LICENCE! Of course they never happened! But paying for these paintings is far cheaper than actually buying players…at least WE get to live the dream’!
Roxey: Brilliant idea boss – what a corporate master stroke!… Ah boss?
Navvy: Yes Roxey!
Roxey: Ah…then where’s the painting of moi being being presented with football’s CEO of the year by you and vice president Percy, surrounded by grateful and adoring club supporters??
Navvy: There’s a big difference between artistic licence and psychotic delusion Roxey!
Roxey: Things are going to get worse before they get better…aren’t they boss?
Navvy: …Never mind that Roxey…just notice how Haddock’s captured that glint in my eye as I pretend to give that bald scandinavian bloke a big cheque for loads of new players while sinking that knife in his back…
Roxey:…GULP!!
I just don’t understand why Doyle came back in and Pez disappeared (unless injured), I thought v Leicester we actually created some decent chances with Sako behind SEB and Pez at right wing. Ward has to be dropped – play Reckord at LB. Batth should keep his place, but drop who? Lumbering Johnson who gets us too deep or the wrestler? It;s not looking good boys, bottom place beckons this year. I can imagine an incensed SM declaring “The players got us into this, they can get us out” in successive seasons til we drop out the league. It’s bloody pathetic we can’t sign anyone.
BTW it made me laugh to read that SM had “personally” asked Doyle to stay and not go to Celtic. Talk about an Anti-Midas touch, everything SM does is the wrong move. Argh.
There are so many Wolves players that need dropping its a pity you need 7 to play a game.
15 games to go and I can’t see us picking up ten points, let alone the twenty or so that would guarantee safety.
And forget the prospect of someone joining on loan. Even if it happens (doubtful) when was the last loan signing that ever made a difference? Probably Dean Richards (RIP).
I can’t get the games on-line here, and to be honest I got a bit fed up of staying up ’til the wee early hours only to see us getting battered week after week last season (Prem games are redily available here in China).
So it’s to my chagrin that this happening again, but in the next league down.
I won’t presume to have the first hand experience of you regulars to Molineux, but I am dubious as to why we ‘faught’ to keep hold of players like Doyle, Ward & SEB (more arguable, at least he HAS scored) in January.
The real fire sale happened at the start of the season, and we supposedly have a crop of good youngsters, so why not sell the crappy ‘MM Era’ players and play some of the kids.
Could it really be worse?
These lads would, I’m sure, put in a shift, listen to Saunders without having too many of their own entrenched beliefs, and be proud to get their chance so early in their career, whereas players like Berra are on record as wanting out. It’s shameful that they don’t get a chance.
When I moved to Singapore last June, I was actually really pissed I wouldn’t get to see any games on TV. As sad as it sounds I’m quite pleased about it now, its bad enough just reading about it.
I wish players and managers alike stop talking and stating the obvious, and just start playing. If I want a lecture I’ll go to the Uni. These guys are paid to play football for their club and deliver to expectations of the fans who indirectly pay their wages.
Now, after the January window closed, the genius is pontificating about needing players? During the January window, he was going on about how he couldn’t find anyone better. Seriously! Nobody better than these donkeys? He couldn’t find a left-back better than Ward? Are you kidding me! Leeds seemed to have found Warnock … it’s just that our tight-fisted management didn’t want to pay, that’s all. And what about Frimpong? He really wasn’t any better than our midfield?
I’ve said over and over, the management team at Wolves have no ambition. If they did, we wouldn’t have Saunders and we wouldn’t have wasted the January window opportunity. Like others have said, they don’t care. Wolves is just another part of business for them. If it can generate revenue for them, great, if not, they won’t care.
I feel worse about our prospects today than I felt when we were in the old fourth division. At least then we had Bully and we had passion. Now we have Ward and Berra and a striker who can’t score from four yards. You think Bully would have missed that one!
If anyone last year would have suggested we could be here now, they would have been laughed at. Surely nobody could have screwed up their premier league status so badly to be in a div 1 relegation battle a year later? Our Morgan and Moxey could! And somehow I don’t think they’ve reached the peak of their capability yet.
There’s not much to say now really. The balls with Morgan. The current players can’t do it. Either pay up the wages for some good loan signings or we go down.
The fans have already made their opinions of playing in league one clear.
Early bird? You’re having a laugh.
Good new s we are after a Reading reserve w ho is 31 years old.
Dean I would walk if I were you. It’s about as much AMBITION as the sales staff trying to flog Early Birds.
Karl Henry says that if Saunders had been in place from the start of the season we’d be in top three or four. You couldn’t make it up !
please tell me why we still play the same player who have now been very poor for nearly 2 years
Saunders said that we keep leaking goals but we had the same back four other than the keeper for the last 2 years. we are just a joke the same rubbish is served up by each manager. when it not working you change the players we have a very large squad.siggy and
cassady should get a chance, ebank blake /dolye are not working, s you got to make changes.
before we re down and out.
Saunders likes to talk big but the reality he has inherited a poisoned dressing room and he doesnt have the balls to actually freeze players-out. The likes of Henry have seen off Mick, Terry and Stale and they will do Saunders as well. I am 100% certain we’ll be looking for our fifth manager in just over a year come this May. Just as well as Saunders is useless.
Don’t worry folks. Karl says we are too good to go down. Phew! That’s a relief then.
Anyone think Karl Henry is anything but an absolute disgrace? Not only is he one of the most limited footballers I have ever seen, he also happens to be an absolute w@nker.
Given the way he performed under Solbakken, I’m staggered he has got the gall to stick the boot in on him. He’s still got blood on his hands.
Morph is dead right, except there really is nothing to say.
Everytime they speak there is another excuse why we didnt aquire any players.
There are the same old excuses why we coulnt improve.
Dont thes guys realize they are condemning themselves with their own words.
Please explain how other clubs are managing to succeed where we fail. Some very small clubs above us now. The rules are the same for all of us.
Simple as this if over the past years with our resources, we cant do better then its managements fault no one elses.
Unless they are just plain stupid which i dodnt beleive then its really all going according to plan. And on the way another 23,000 loyal fans turned out on Sat.
Ward must have pictures of something.
And henry saying we are to big to go down is just vomit making. They said that about the Titanic. Right now players keep your traps shut. We are not to big to go down, right now we are a very very bad team, badly managed and continueing to play the same old crap.
I love Wolves but right now what is there to support.
I’ve just seen the ‘tough times’ video on the Insanitised website.
What the f**k??!!!!
A short video saying:-
“We have made a complete horlicks over the last two seasons, we apologise unreservedly and we plan to put it right by getting rid of the rubbish as soon as we can and getting in some players whose skills match the so-called ambitions of the club no matter what it costs – Oh yes and the fat man is on his bike”.
- would have been rather more appropriate.
doogy mate …i really have had enough now-i would rather go to the mol to demonstrate than to go to the game! cant take the two dickheads destroying the wolves anymore!!!!! i think we all need reminding of our history and what a laughing stock they have turned us into!!!
My dear wife hates football, but not as much as she now hates Moxey.
I showed her that video and she said just about exactly what you did Doog. That what is needed is an apology and a plan of how they are going to put it right.
Fat chance, fat git.
Just picked up the E&S and to see we are in the process of a loan deal for Gorkss who the f##king hell is he,i thought with all the money we have we could of picked up someone better.
Express and Star tonight….” Henry:we’re to good to take the drop ” Therein lies the root of the problem at Wolverhampton Wanderers. KH really does believe it. What possible answer is there to that ? Karl,why don’t you get together with Messrs Berra,Doyle,Foley,Ward,Hunt and Edwards and cart your arses somewhere else.Danny Ba’ath comes in and shows so-called ‘seasoned professionals’ how it should be done. You should all hang your heads in shame.
The worst part, I thought, about Henry’s piece in the E&S implying that it was all Sako’s fault the penalty.
Without Sako? – We would be well adrift at the bottom of this league.
Without Henry? – Maybe in less danger of relegation.
Henry is a waste of space and needs to fuck-off.
Good sentiments and a wonderful turn of phrase. F.O.H.+M.