When all else fails, hire Steve Bruce.
That seems to be the mantra the two Ms are adopting in their quest to fill the manager’s parking space at Compton.
"You'll be back...they always come back!"
Yep, Brucie is the safe pair of hands Jez and Steve will turn to if all else fails.
There can be no other explanation.
If they wanted him, the deal would have been concluded by now.
Considering this, his arrival would be the most underwhelming announcement since the Early Bird propaganda once again dribbled onto the club’s website.
What kind of message does that send out?
“Sorry guys, but nobody we actually wanted was interested.”
If you believe what you read in the papers, Alan Curbishley was the preferred candidate but he turned it down.
Something to do with ‘vision’.
Poyet was mentioned and then forgotten about no sooner than his £2 million price-tag was made public.
Brian McDermott seemed a strong shout yesterday, particularly with Reading keeping schtum, but it now appears a better deal from the Mad Stad was enough to entice him into staying.
A sense of desperation is beginning to resonate from the Molineux hierarchy; a fact underlined by reports that M & M went back to Alan Curbishley for a second time last night, only to have the door slammed in their faces like bothersome Jehovah’s witnesses.
So what now?
Time is running out, the heat is well and truly on and despite vague assurances from our beloved CEO last weekend, it doesn’t appear that the much-heralded process has heralded any notable results.
If what we’re being fed in the papers is true, it would appear there are 3 distinct options:
1. Make concessions to entice Alan Curbishley.
2. Gamble on a left-field candidate in the Clark, Ince, Keane mould.
3. Hire Steve Bruce.
What’s your money on?
If I was a gambling man, I’d be going all-in on the fall back guy.
It all smells of desperation. We don’t have time to learn lessons, Mick,bless him maybe had run his course but everyone knows you should have an option available. Incompetence by the board.
Yes another balls up and im not refering to McCarthy style of play either . Im amazed Morgan has not pushed the boat out to get this sorted by now. Ive come to realise now with Morgan if it involves paying out or disagreeing with his view/vison he throws his rattle out the pram. Curbishly is by no meams my first pick that was O’Niel but compared to the rest at least he been there and thats what Jez ” SIX FIGURE SALARY ILL SAY WHAT EVER YOU WANT ME TO SAY STEVE ! LETS SELL AS MUCH CRAP TO THE FANS AS POSIBLE ” Moxey was telling all the world last weekend.
Morgan wants someone to keep wolves in the Prem: on championship wages who wont moan about transfer kitty, in fact he had that person but he sacked him last monday. Now Curbs does not fit that ” WOLVES DNA ” no he had the cheek to say i want this much ? transfer kitty if i keep Wolves up and i want to bring my own backroom team in and its going to cost you this much ? I believe Morgan is not used to his employees or should i posible employees making these sort of demands. For a Liverpool fan he has very little idea of how football works.
Ricky Tomlinson is available !
If and when they do appoint Steve Bruce the ” Dear Leader ” will insist he was always the No. 1 choice.
Ha, I was going to say that in the article actually. Whoever they hire will be referred to as their ‘preferred candidate’. I suppose you can’t blame for that, even if it is a flagrant lie.
Yes Bruce Amighty to the rescue i can see the headlines now in the Express & Star !
I’ll wager money on more amateurism. Perhaps the demand for a written test, followed a practical exam, before one more final interview at a local Regus office.
One last comment then im off to bed. Morgan sell and go and put your money into 2 up 2 down in the Wirral
Christ I’d even be surprised if Bruce wanted it now, knowing he is Plan Z.
I’d have rather we just signed him, made him boss and gave him plenty of time with the squad rather than all this dithering. Believe me I don’t want him but surely this is no good for anyone.
Surely the best thing we can do now is get some young exciting manager, Moxey to say he smashed the interview and convinced them of his ability and we will put our balls on the line with this decision. Rather than what will inevitably happen is that Bruce will come in on Friday as a last resort, we get smashed by Newcastle and we all end up hating Bruce and the 2 M’s.
No logic, no plan, no idea.
Yeah, the only good thing about the timing of the sacking is that we had a great chance of giving the new man 10/11 days to work with the players before his first game.
or maybe they knew that, from a standing start, it would take the full fortnight to stumble their way to an appointment
We need to be going for Ray Wilkins who is free to take over now. Give him till the end of the season then ofter it him or Ian Holloway
This is all going to plan B!!
They never had any intention of appointing a new manager, just having given McDickhead a big payoff.
They fully intended to keep clipboard until the bitter end, and find someone in the summer.
Makes perfect sense.
No new contract and hence no money to pony up for new manager or compensation to former club, no extra money to pay clipboard, he’s just happy to be in a job.
If he keeps us up, they can say how wonderful he is and how much faith they had in him, if we go down, they will say we made the right decision, and didn’t knee jerk.
Maybe it’s not such a bad idea!!
With all the smoke flying around, we must not forget we have a huge game coming up, and whatever we think of M&M and a lot of the players, we have got to give our team 100% support for this match, and the rest of the season.
We might just be surprised.
Let’s give the players and coaching staff the benefit of the doubt,and see how they can respond to the bollocks of the last 10 days,
As for tweedle dum and tweedle dee, they can go fuck themselves, which is probably what they’ve been doing in the now infamous London Hotel!!
And let’s not forget….FOWB
i thought nothing could surprise me anymore but arise Sir Clive of Useless, the voice of reason!
I think you may be right on the money Clive. After all, what can one expect a new manager to do at this stage without the opportunity to bring in any players? And quite honestly, I think I actually prefer this to bringing in any of the useless candidates being touted (other than Curbishley). I have no doubts that any of the candidates mentioned (again other than Curbs) will be a complete disaster – Bruce, Poyet, Wilkins, the lot of them. None of them are any better than Mick, and none of them will last long. So if you can’t bring in Curbs, bide the time … then if by some miracle we survive, see if you can pry Allardyce away from West Ham in summer.
Btw, on that “vision” thing that Curbs doesn’t share with Morgan … translate “vision” to “budget”. I think Morgan is being exposed as the real problem here, not MM. I think it is Morgan who is not willing to spend more to strengthen because he wants to build a new stadium. That is why I think Curbs is not interested because he doesn’t want to take a job without the right budget to strengthen.
The other theory is that there’s a plan to bring in a director of football in the not too distant…
So Curbishley turns us down again; so does McDermott and Poyet is out. No news on Wilkins. Its all pointing to that clown Bruce getting the job by default.
What a total, complete and utter shambles.
If it was Jose Mourinho who didn’t share Steve Morgan’s vision then fair enough.. but Alan Curbishley?
Of course, we don’t know the details.
He may have made outlandish demands for a £50m transfer kitty and a trebling of the wage bill.
Or maybe he listened as Morgan talked him through the plans for the training ground.. and the stadium.. and the restaurant.. and the museum.. and then when he asked about transfer and wage funds, he got the answer many of us fear about Morgan’s “vision”.
Which one is your money on?
I would say that the two M’s does the right thing when they take their time appointing the right candidate.
But are they willing to spend as much resources to actually get the right candidate?
2 million shouldn’t be too much to pay out for a manager if one is sure he’s the one.
If a premier league club get a first team player for 2 million it would be a scoup. So I would go for Poyet OR Curbishley.
Will to power! :=)
Are they taking their time or is it that no one wants the job? I know what I think.
Agree that £2M isn’t a lot for the right guy to keep us in the premiership.
They said they would take their time – and they have. I don’t know how long time they had in mind, for if Curbishley had accepted their offer he would have been appointed pretty soon.
Too bad Mcdermott changed his mind. After all I think he would have bigger chances keeping us up in the premiership than getting Reading promoted, as there are so many quality teams in championship now a days fighting for promotion. And our players are of another standard – we are at least a couple of seasons ahead when it comes to player material. A few quality strikers and a playmaker, one central defender and we’ve got a competive team in premiership – with a good manager.
If nothing else, this sorry saga is getting me to take an interest in Twitter!
Moxey seems to believe “bullsh*t baffles brains” and spouts all kinds of impressive sound bites that always end up being found out as twaddle!
He should have kept his mouth shut and simply thanked Mick for his services and then quietly got on with the job of finding a decent, progressive manager.
Steve Bruce is about as exciting a prospect as the return of the plague. A big step backwards and demonstrating absolutely no ambition.
I’m so disappointed that a football club like Wolves, my club, has handled this so badly.
OODCL… I hope!
Wake up M & M, this is 2012 and no experienced and respected Manager will take on a 3 month Contract. As a Wolves supporter for the past 40 years, I truly believe that Curbishly is the man for us. Just iron out any differences with Curbs and appoint him, he will do us proud.
By the way, did anyone else listen to this BBC interview with Sir Alex Ferguson:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01c6kk/5_live_Sport_Spoony_meets_Sir_Alex_Ferguson/
Very interesting indeed, particularly for those backing Ray Wilkins to be our next manager.
According to Sir Alex, just before Wolves hired Mark McGhee, he took a call from one of the Haywards asking what he thought of McGhee.
His response was to recommend Ray Wilkins for the job instead and he even (unbelievably) picked up the phone himself to make the call on Wolves behalf.
Wilkins was manager at Fulham at the time and said he didn’t fancy it because he thought his prospects were better at Craven Cottage. He was sacked 6 months later.
At a time when speculation is rife, a nugget of factual information like that is uplifting.
Totally believable on the phone call. Wasn’t son Darren playing for us then? I reckon Sir Alex got as much hospitality at the Mol in those days as he did at OT. A quick call to RW was the least he could do.
Meanwhile, your option 1 appears to have bitten the dust:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17112269
They can still go back with a third offer.
What I’d really like to know is what this ‘vision’ is that Curbs and Morgan don’t share.
Adam B eludes to it above.
If you believe what the papers are saying then I believe Lee Clark is the best bet. Curbishley doesn’t want 3 months (who can blame him?), Bruce isn’t capable of doing the job; is Poyet the man (especially if one has to pay £2 million to find out) ? The Reading man doesn’t want it, Wilkins isn’t good enough, so we come back to Clark. Are any of them better than MM? We need the players to pull their fingers out and play to their full potential whoever becomes manager. But it just shows how an experienced manager like Curbishley thinks of the job.
Stop guessing and stop beating yourselves up over it.
Nobody knows exactly what is going on and all the papers and websites are just looking at each other for something to print.
Wait until you know the full story before slagging off our football club.
It is already obvious that most fans will not be happy whoever is appointed so they may as well take their time and at least satisfy themselves.
Our “support” really baffles me at times. No wonder we have a poor reputation. Or am I just letting a load of keyboard warriors wind me up?
a) we wouldn’t slag them off if what they did was the same as what they said (long term stability – sack the gaffer / only appoint a manager with prem experience – approach managers without it / complete at least 2 stands – stop after 1)
b) we’ll never know the full story – when would you suggest is an appropriate time to discuss it?
c) are you so ambivalent about our future prospects you don’t mind who comes in, and so have no need to speculate?
d) “slagging the club off” doesn’t matter as fan’s views are patently ignored at almost every juncture, with Moxey going as far as telling the Fan’s Parliament that Wolves fans are “fickle”
e) I take it you don’t speak to other people about football. i’m not beating us up over it half as hard as i’m getting beaten up over it. my facebook wall is a litany of abuse.
a) MM had been given enough chances to turn it round. The Board had to act at some point. Its clear things weren’t improving on the pitch. If MM’s record had cointinued, we would certainly have been relegated. (we may well be anyway, but the Board chose to do something to try and change things. They want topp expeirience, we all do, i guess. But it has to be on our terms otherwise its a non-starter. Besdides, how do you know we won’t get that Manager with Prem Experience? Because the newspapers speculated?? We don’t yet know the facts.
The ground will be completed. The new training ground is also a Premier League requirement (as I understand it) so that has temporarily taken priority (annoyingly, but that is what was stated). Wolves have NEVER stated the ground development will end after Phase 1. I too will be angry if that is the case, but again you are summising, negatively so.
b) When we know who is appointed and the problems that M&M may have faced along the way. Its a one-sided discussion at the moment but most people seem to be focussing on the negative. We all want it sorted but I’d rather it took time than make a quick appointment without hearing what all the candidates have to offer. Again, I too will be angry if we were lied to but we just don’t know yet.
c) Speculate all you want. I too am doing that, who isn’t? But I don’t need to criticise the club for things which I/we have no idea of (yet). I have my favourites, just as you probably do, but that’s my opinion and I’m not going to pee my pants if other people’s opinions are different. I don’t get to interview them. My favourite might have had some ridiculous ideas which M & M think are wrong, but I’ll probably never know.
Whoever they appoint, its a gamble. That’s football. Most/many fans will disagree with whoever they appoint.
d) Wolves fans “fickle”. NEWSFLASH!l Many of us are!!! Does it hurt your feelings when someone a go back? And he didn’t actually say it about all Wolves fans.
e) I work in West Bromwich. Nuff said.
Thank you for the debate.
d) – Moxey pointed at the members of The Fans Parliament and said “Newsflash, YOU. ARE. FICKLE”, it was directed at Wolves fans and it was completely out of line. We all have a heavy emotional investment in the club and our attendance at games pays Moxey’s wages, our very existence means he has a job. He clearly has total disdain for the fans and his arrogance is vile.
It was a disgusting episode is a reflection of the man Moxey is
e) I’m so sorry
What a let down by the two M&Ms they are just like the sweets all soft and no bite.
All this talk about having somebody in place before the Newcastle game ?????. We must be the laughing stock of the football world. Its about time these two M&Ms started listening to the fans, we lost Crubs for whatever reason. We do not want BRUCE it would be a step backwards. So why not bring in Ray Wilkins look what he done for Chelsea, he would get the support from the players also the fans. So bring him in now.
I’d take Wilkins. At least go with someone like him rather than Bruce.
Take a shot at something brilliant rather than ‘playing safe’ when what we need right now is a whole new ethos and attitude. If we go down under Bruce they the 2 M’s will have failed horribly, if we go down under someone like Clark or Wilkins i’ll at least thing they tried something different!
roy keane odds fallen dramatically everywhere !
PLEASE GOD LET THEM MOVE HEAVEN AND EARTH TO GET CURBS.
HE’S THE ONLY OPTION THAT CAN SAVE US!
Oh sh*t
walter smith odds droppin too
Oh god no not Bruce. Will the club not do the right thing and offer Curbs Moxey’s big fat bonus if we stay up. In fact offer his head on a pike, anything to get the best man for the job to take it.
No class, no idea, no use. FO Greasy and Moron.
charlieeee he turned us down twice they aye gunna ask again that would be embarrasing is if this debacle aint already !
In fairness, I tried to pull my wife-to-be three times before she gave in. Half a dozen JD and cokes eventually convinced her and the rest is history.
The moral of the story: Get Curbishley pissed and don’t give up!!
Only half a dozen?
That surprises me!!!
The fact is we are now in one God awful mess. There was never a proper plan and the situation now is completely out of control.
There is no point in appointing someone no-one really wants just for the sake of it.
I say get Dave Jones til the end of the season. He knows the club and he’s got a pretty decent CV. A damn sight better thaan Bruce and he’s had plenty of experience.
I just have a good feeling about it. He will want to prove we should never have let him go and he’s in a no lose situation. I think he could pull it off and then give him another chance to show what he could have done with more financial backing.
Remember i suggested Harry BEFORE they got Fabio!
The whole affair is a shambles.
It will not be Curbishley nor McDermott and surely not ‘fall back guy Bruce.’
The dithering procrastination of the process has even the Bookies foxed and we’re supposed to be Wolves.
One way or the other the two M’s have to make a gamble and they should get on with it.
I’d prefer Roy Keane to Bruce if the odds are to be believed……
For the sake of the team, and the game against Newcastle, time to sort this mess out, fast!
Accepting we are not privy to all that goes on think Martin suggesting DJ is sound. Dave will bring a measure of calmness and professionalism to the club to counteract the buffoonery we have witnessed for over a week. I would further suggest he finds a role for Jody and a way to get him playing. His performance against Sunderland was assured.
Moron might see this as harking back to Sir Jacks time. What is Sir Jack thinking now, he must be feeling just as dreadful as us.
Just sort it and bring this sorry mess to a conclusion.
YES DAVID JONES. AS I HAVE BEEN SAYING ON HERE ALL WEEK ! HE KNOWS HIS WAY AROUND AND TIME IS SOMETHING WE ARE GROWING SHORT OF
STOP PRESS: Brucey spotted driving into Molineux http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/306notout/AmHh-BKCEAA-Jfw.jpg
Ha haaaaaa!
I was panicking thinking this was real…until it loaded
It had me laughing out loud mate! You’ve got to laugh, haven’t you?
I am with Clive. We obviously have good reason to be completely bemused by all of this, but when the lads step out on Saturday, we will remain right behind them – with a good sense of humour!
We will all look back on this one day when this site is struggling for comment in the lonely summer months. We’ll laugh (when we’ve stayed up by the skin of our teeth again)
Then we’ll be told by some how disgracefully over the top we all were about it all. How M & M deserved more respect over it all.
I really, really hope this happens.
Oh that’s priceless. Think i’m going to stick it on the wall next to my Bully picture. From the sublime to the ridiculous!
Love it Ben! If he doesn’t get the job it’s because he looks like a typical Albi*n fan. #outofdarkness
Well if its Bruce or Keane I think it is time to take Johnwolfs advice and f*ck off and watch the Albion with the rest of the mindless idiots and numpties. trouble is I’ve already renewed for next season ! Oh well cross fingers and hope we get a pleasant suprise but I somehow doubt it.
Wilkins Please…
Why have we not heard him mentioned at interview..
just proves the 2 M’s know nothing about Football.
Well, I certainly wouldn’t hire Steve Bruce, that’s for sure.
Of course he would take the job, even if he knew that he was 99th choice – he was fired, fairly, from Sunderland cos he couldn’t make a big, wealthy team full of VERY good players perform.
Hardly an inspiring choice.
That said, and I’ve said it before, until someone’s officially unveiled I’m not going to bite at any of the paper talk, ‘cos I most rumours surrounding transfers etc where Wolves are concerned are never true.
Who would I actually pick?
To be fair, I don’t really give a shit any more. I’m all out of faith.
I’ll never stop being a supporter, but the management of the club are clearly terrible and that’s something I or we cannot change, so I’ll just shrug my shoulders and accept whatever bollocks occurs, starting with Saturday’s murdering against the Toon.
The fact that there’s been five blogs on this situation says it all really! There’s been a hell of a lot of panic amongst the Wolves fans!
Of course, that’s not meant to be an insult to the guys making the blogs but you can’t help but feel that the board didn’t exactly think this sacking through! I still maintain that Bruce is at best a sideways step to Mick McCarthy but if he does get hired – and it’s looking more and more likely – then I hope he can prove us wrong!
What are the odds on us being managerless for the Fulham game?
We have been effectively managerless all season!!
http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/wolves-specials/next-permanent-manager – a very depressing read
I recognise all the names but who the hell is Paul Brown? Is he a dark horse somebody who through his hat in the ring for a laugh? I checked Google there is a player in the Conference or an American Football Coach. Is it Clive in disguise?
Do they mean Phil Brown?
Id take Paul Brown the conference footballer over the perma-tanned prima-donna any day.
I quite like Martin Swain but his piece about Steve Bruce in the E&S the other day seemed designed to smooth the way for Bruce’s arrival – get the fans to take another look at his CV, suggest it was all about petty things like his appearance and links to Blues/Man Utd.
Well I looked at his CV and I see a guy who got 21 points from his last 27 games with Sunderland.
That’s worse than Mick McCarthy’s last 27 Wolves games! The only difference being that – as we can now see – Sunderland have got a pretty decent team and will probably finish eighth this season.
What an appointment it would be.
im sick to the back teeth with this shamballs I hate to say it but I think tc will become the new manager on a 3 yr contract
TC? I’d rather have Officer Dibble.
nobody would want tc apart from the 2 pricks running the wolves or should that b ruining the wolves
might as well give TC the job till the end of the season, as no one else wants it.. If he keeps us up great, if not then we could still re-hire Mick who is without doubt the best man to get us out of the championship… What a shambles…
I didn’t realise until now how poor we look as a club to the outside world.. Maybe they would more luck finding someone if they put a card in Wolverhampton job centre..
Get Wilkins in, he said on Talksport “it would be Lovely”
Be careful what you wish for!
My worst nightmare next to Bruce, Terry Connor has the Wolves DNA !
Errr…..Why did we go to London to look for someone else?
Officer Dibble he’s a bit like Lunchtime O’Bruce.
I ‘m a bit lost about where we are with the interviews-like who’s had the most and can they claim expenses for all. Where are Dumb and Dumber conducting this circus from a hotel, the big top, a caff or in the bunker at The Mol?
Is there a queue somewhere that might give a clue-job centre or wherever. If they are not careful they will offer it to two people and that may cause more embarrassment. Karl says team are right behind TC.
Please help I’m getting so confused.
How about Ince-Wilkins.Wilkins-ince combination.rings good to me.
Wilkins with Ince wouldn’t work as Butch is not young and hungry enough
Ince with Wilkins wouldn’t work as Ince is a novice.
Otherwise, that might work
Meanwhile, back at the ranch…
……Tonto, posing as a door, got his knob shot off!!!
So now we are the old jokes forum/blog are we?
Well, my dad used to work in the circus, chewing hammers.
He wasn’t a professional though, he was an amateur!!!
Like me, the old ones are the best!!
Old jokes??? Dont you dare talk about Jesteve like that!
Was it your old man who ordered those four candles???
Yes, together with the billhooks!!
Still think it would work,the papers would have a field day with butch wilkins & Sundance Ince.
Got to be better than Holloway the so called E&S Poll by the fans.
The trouble is we cant trust Morgan & Poxey to pick their noses.
Oh yes you can! Our esteemed owner is an avid nose picker! When he can bother attending a match, he can spend a whole half on one nostril!
I’ve given up going on Twitter for updates, just too embarassing, all the other fans are wetting themselves at our expense.
Can’t really see them going back to Bruce now at this stage, everyone knows we’ve tried a stack load of others.
It seems this pair couldn’t score in a brothel with a £50 note in each hand.
I haven’t follow the EPL that long, but in the US, I’ve been a sports fan my whole life and I have never seen such front office incompetency at such a crucial time from one of my teams. This is beyond pathetic at this point. I like how Sky has TC the second favorite right now behind Bruce. Basically saying how likely it is we get no one and stuck with him for the remainder of the year.
I’m sure that not all we read is accurate but nevertheless, it is pretty uninspiring management from the 2Ms. I’ve lost track of who is and out and remain amazed that there was not a plan regarding MM departure. Even if they were adamant that MM would not be sacked, they should have begun some preliminary discussions in the event that MM resigned, which was always a possibility.
Then we had the “this job is not for a novice”, now I haven’t a clue. Of course I’ll be supporting whoever they choose. However, I think I’ll hold off the earlybird for now in the event we go for the low cost, limited ambition candidate.
McD signed new contract at Reading.
Still maintain that in the summer M & M intend to appoint a Director of Football to have oversight of the manager.
Why else would Curbishley differ in his “vision” with M&M?
Money?
We are one of the best run clubs in the Premiership, with regards to a business model.
We can be sure Morgan won’t hand out a lot of cash in the summer £10 million? £20 million tops?
If Cooper can inspire the lads to 3 points, why not stick with him, rather than a panicked appointment
If he can do that, and keep us up, I will come over there, get down on my knees, face East, and worship his clipboard!!
Yeah, ‘Just like that!’
We are one of the best run clubs in the Premiership with regards to a business model and Morgan won’t hand out a lot of cash in the summer.
Unfortunately, that is the problem. In the business world our business model may be very sensible and ensure a profit each year BUT this is football. Success in football is different. It is not measured by a club’s balance sheet but by results on the field of play.
Ambitious managers know this and our overtight budget means they would be acting with one hand tied behind their back.
I say overtight because we made a profit of £9 million last year. If we had spent £8 million of that on players we would have had a a better chance of success on the field and still made a profit of £1 million.
Mr Moxey told us three years ago “the position is the league is directly related to the money spent on players’ wages”. As he has known that for three years has he ever tried to persuade Steve Morgan to increase our wage bill even a little?
I would really have to argue the point about us being one of the best run clubs in the Premiership with regards to a business model!!!! We are currently a joke! A Club with a disenfranchised set of supporters, halted stadium development – due to chronic lack of demand, now that we’ve spent 18 million on the new white elephant stand! We are rudderless and on the brink of relegation, that will see our playing staff ripped apart, turnover plummet (remember we turned over 18mil when we won the Championship compared to 60mil in our first year back in the Premiership!) and in time profit (parachute payments and transfer fees should balance our books short term). Then to top it all with the current fiasco over appointing a new manager we currently look as shrewd as my name sakes decision to buy ABN Amro! Playing the whole thing out in the press has really seen our stock drop in the football world.
In short then we are a business whose customers don’t want the product being offered, have over expanded an area of the business that has no demand for expansion and under invested in an area that badly needs investment to ensure future profitability. On top of that we are imploding on the back pages of most papers!!! Brilliant business model…what next, perhaps our requirement process could be expanded to player transfers…we could offer 10 match contracts to see how they go…and then if they are any good…sign them up (on the cheap of course) and because we are Wolves no player will mind that…everyone wants to play for us…don’t they?
Was anybody really surprised with how Wolves dealt with this situation.
Firstly the timing of McCluless getting fired – he should have gone at the end of last season or at the latest prior to the winter window. to leave him in place as long as we did has, in my opinion, cost us our place in the premiership and created a situation where no manager worth his salt would want to come to us.
Curbishley was clearly the number one target, and we should have bent over and offered the world to land him. We are not in a position to barter with anybody, we are clinging on by the skin on our teeth and if we wait any longer we will drop like a stone.
We should have had someone in place last Friday, then they would have had a week with the team to prepare for the geordies. We may then have had a chance to snatch 3 points. Now we may as well not turn up. I feel sorry for any fan travelling to that game because the ammunition the geordies have to throw at you would be enough to end most wars.
One good thing should come out of this, Moxey’s role should become untenable and he should be forced to leave the club forthwith. I’d say the same for Morgan but because he owns the club he can do whatever he wants.
I do blame Moxey, as the evidence is overwhelming. Since he has been wth the club, everytime we appoint a manager we go through this 2 or 3 week gong show. It hurts more this time because we forgot what it was like – but this is exactly what Moxey does each and every time we attempt to appoint someone.
Now I’m going back to sleep, wake me up with some good news………….zzzzzzzzzz
Wilkins-don’t arse about any more.
I haven’t read all of the comments above as yet??? So maybe this has already been mentioned???
But Terry Connor is currently 2nd favourite at 7/2 behind Steve Bruce at 2/1!!!!!!!!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know the odds have been changing every hour and all sorts of names have been thrown into the hat. But even the bookies are now running out of ideas by throwing TC’s name into the mix!!!!
WE NEED A CHANGE NOT A CLIPBOARD!!!
As per SkyBet anyway!
Brucie – Not Nice to see him -To see him – not Nice!!
Curbs – Prevented the Morgan leaving the road to Lord knows where!!
Keane – I’m not!!
Got to be the Last train to Clarkeville!!!
For all those touting Lee Clark do the old Military trick and ‘Seek local knowledge’ have a look at what the HTFC blogs are saying the general consensu is that the guy is complete shite
…………yet his win record is good (albeit in League One) and when I last looked, his odds were about third or fouth best. Something fishy about Clarky – could it be the “Nemo principle” (see Nemo’s comments below). Like most of us, I’m bemused and confused but thanks for your reply anyway.
I’m not convinced about Wilkins as a manager…a great coach…but not 100% convinced…but he does seem like the best of a mediocre group…now that Curbishley has well and truly withdrawn!
If Walter Smith threw his hat in the ring it would be different…remember he kept Everton in the Premiership…and his exploits in Europe with Rangers (and no money) were more than impressive. His obsession with possession / negative football would drive us all mad…but he would easily keep us up with our squad…and could easily drag us up the table…tactical nouse is what works in the Premiership!
The common theme running through many of the articles about Wolves’ search for a manager is cheapness.
McDermott was attractive to them because he has been successful at Reading on a tight budget. They weren’t interested in Poyet because the fee required by Brighton to release him was a prohibitive £2 million.
I would bet that Curbishley turned us down because he could see that our transfer and players’ wages budget was far too low to give him a reasonable chance of success.
I think Mr Morgan’s plan to get the club established in the Premiership on the cheap is unravelling. To achieve what he wants would take an outstanding manager. Unfortunatley, outstanding managers are usually ambitious as well and none of them is going to put up with
Morgan’s restrictions on players’ wages and transfer fees.
If he is determined to run the club under his current guidelines, then both he and we supporters may have to accept that we will be spending more time in the Championship than in the Premiership during his tenure at the club.
Why should compensation of £2 million be prohibitive ?
I have a horrible feeling that you are right Nemo.
The management have consistently and proudly flaunted the fact that our club is financially sound and run to strict monetary guidelines, but as we all know, pride can come before a fall and prudence is not an attractive proposition for many candidates – whether they are experienced, out of work or up and coming.
I remain hopeful that the people responsible for appointing our next man, have more to loose by getting it wrong than most of us and that their egos would never suffer life in the Championship- or am I just Rodthenaive?
This worries the cr*p out of me. Been said many times before but should have acted when O’Neill and Hughes were available. Mind you, they’d have probably turned it down too.
Right if Bruce is gonna b in charge we mite as well b looking forward 2 to the championship. Keane get out of ere n clipboard couldn’t manage a piss up in a brewery. Wud like 2 c wilkins as no2 as he is not a manager. Only choices it can b Curbs or Houts from brum. Anyone esle and we will struggle. Moxley can also grab his final pay check and piss off!!!!!!
Vision. Equals. Restricted salary structure. Curbishley spot on.
Morgan is running a business. He is not and will not run a consistant premier league team. Is he wrong or right?
Jez moxey is A puppet on a string and his true colours are slowly seaping through.
Give tc a chance because its starting to get embarrassing. Thats tbe truth of the situation coming to light. Never was mm’s fault. Sorry clive.
Early Bird anyone ??
New bar and Bistro, Restaurant. Museum.. and lets not forget our great 14000 sq foot club megastore…
How much of that cash could have gone into funding players including wages. Funding a new manager..
I’m afraid Morgan and Moxley seem to have all the great business ideas but know nothing of Premier league football. So its back to championship we go…
At least we might a few…
At least we might win a few….
Last comment on Wolves web-18th Feb. Last comment from the owner not been one.
22nd Feb-relying on the press. This is disgraceful.
18th Feb. we were making progress-oh dear wheels have come off the bus. The Spinmaster is quiet or is his mouth full of shit…Smell something?
just want to say I agree with Adam B about Martin Swain’s article – he even had me softening up a bit, and I was glad when he got the chop at Sunderland, let alone having his miserable face and stumbling post match excuses here.
BRUCE NOOOOOOOOOOOO !
Im just waiting for megson to be linked then i think I just might surrender my self to the loony bin.these last 2 weeks have been heartbreaking .will it ever end?
Apparently there has been a spate of bets on Walter Smith in the last half hour probably means nothing – no wonder our shirt sponsers are bookmakers.
Out of darkness cometh a darker darkness.
The thing that assures me that curbs would have been the man for the job was that he has a different vision to pox & Scrooge. The sinking feeling is starting to feel normal and it’s obvious where we are sinking to
Yea. Considering the majority of Fans wanted Curbs, The idiots have shown themselves up to be what they really are clueless about premier league football.
They have blown their cover now, and I don’t see how the fans can trust them again..
we are making Blackburn look look like a well managed club, what a a shambles.
maybe Morgan should sell to Venkys..
Venky’s would spend more money!
have we all forgotten David O’Leary ! Where is he now -Uzbekhistan or somewhere ?
92 managers in the football leagues + a few out of work
We cant tempt any of em!! Oh dear..
Suddenly Keeping McCarthy actually looks like it may have been a very good idea at least until the end of the season..
I would give Wilkins a try, he has a lot of respect in the game, Sir Alex rates him, look how Chelsea imploded when he got sacked.
He wants the job, I think he would be a good shout, the only reservation I have tho is, will he be ruthless enough with under performing players, ( bloody hell I’ve just realised that’s about 80% of the current first team ) until someone gives him a chance we will never know.
The way all this has been handled has been shambolic, Morgan and Poxey have been made to look desperate fools.
I don’t want Bruce at our club, but if he had any principles he would tell Morgan and Poxey to get stuffed, because by now, he knows that he was 3rd or 4th choice, and ain’t heard diddly squat from the chuckle brothers.
The wife summed it up perfectly when I gave her an update last night.
‘It’s a blinkin’ debacle!’
I don’t fancy Bruce as manager like most but we probably have to accept that we don’t have much to offer either. 13 weeks of work guaranteed to be one of the most awful periods of stress and despair you’ve had. Working with an owner and chairman who are delusional and full of crap. Little transfer budget for the future even if you find a player within budget it’s likely we won’t meet his wage demands so basically you’ll only get a good player if no other club comes in. Oh yeah the fans don’t want you and won’t give you a fair chance. The fact Bruce is still interested astounds me.
Alas the saga to find a new ‘Leader of the pack’ continues.
As levels of frustration, annoyance and disappointment rise on a daily basis, it is obvious from the above posts that the patience of all WW fans is being severely tested. However, it is important to inject a dose of realism into the debate; this Black Country problem, though serious is not calamitous, it’s events like those in Syria over the same ten day period that are a real tragedy.
That’s not to say that WW fans are not hurting as our ‘Molineux Pride’, we once all displayed on our free flags, has taken such a bashing as our owner and CEO unsuccessfully attempt to sail the rudderless ship HMS Molineux in search of the promised land.
I have put up with the ‘soft’ goals, the lack of creditable defence, the losses at home and the uninspiring style of soccer BUT I cannot accept seeing my club now regarded as the laughing stock of the PL. It has always taken strength of character to support Wolves but never before have I been embarrassed by my affiliation with the club.
Sorry guys, needed to unload… but don’t forget the old saying that seems most apt
“Molineux Pride goeth before the Molineux Fall”
I reckon Curbs was ready to sign but Morgan quips “If I’m not happy with the performance I’ll come into the dressing room and make like a hairdryer. It’s my club, my party, and I’ll cry if I want to. If you don’t like it get back to dat London”. At that point Alan gets up and walks out.
Anyway, JMO, the only manager that will take a job like this, assuming it’s a “let’s get to the end of the season, see what’s happened, then talk about a contract extension” deal is a manager with a damaged/poor reputation that needs to gamble and improve their own CV.
And that’s Ince or Keane. Oh dear.
Tim Nash just Tweeted. Def not Walter Smith..
Wolves made contact but guess what.. He wasn’t interested either…
I might apply you know..
We are a laughing stock.
The Chairman and CEO should be finding someone who will do a good job, not someone who will listen to their dictates.
Do Morgan and moxey realise what they have done?
Surely they must appoint someone by Friday or we are doomed……
oh dear oh dear oh dear what are we doing ? It was hard enough to try and bring players in, and now it is just as hard to find a manager. I think the question should be, is it the same people doing the negotiations for players and manager ? If this person is Jez Moxey then are we not surprised !
You all wanted to sack mick because you lost belief.
You infected the players with doubt.
You got rid of Mick despite all he had done.
You all had a plan B.
This is plan B – ‘anyone else but Mick – so take some satisfaction please.
If we stay up you can all claim success but then Mick might have kept us up yet again despite injuries.
100% hindsight is a wonderful thing, especially when viewed through rose colored glasses.
It doesn’t matter about this current fiasco, McDickwadhead had to go, he was leading us into the championship, no question.
None of us foresaw the mess we are now in, but come what may, still, ANYONE is better than the idiot we had up until last monday morning.
I for one am still as happy as a pig in pink shit that McCarthorse has gone.
We are Wolves fans, why should anything be easy for us?
Get behind the team on Saturday, and bollocks to Fatman and Throbbin.
And do not forget, a hearty FOWB
We all could have installred anyone but Mick in a couple of days…
Its taken these idiots 2 weeks.. Anyone but Mick should have been a
lot easier than this.
One thing we do now know is that due to our polices must premier league managers wont touch us with a bargepole.
Which in hindsight none of knew, we really didn’t know the 2 M’s had brought the club down this much..
but I think we all are now aware of were the real problem lies…
I see that they have resorted to sending Karl Henry into town to see if any suitable candidates may be found amongst the local unemployed, but was Mick there?
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2012/02/22/karl-henry-helps-tackle-job-search/
dear lord! thank goodness no-one else picked up on that – who the fudge thought it’s a good idea to send him to a job fair when we’ve got no boss? the headlines write themselves! do we have anyone responsible for PR? can we sack them too?
Bruce gone from 3/1 to 5/4 overnight….
Looks like Bruce it is then.
Lets hope Morgan has got the scotch cupboard filled up…
Assuming we do actually appoint someone now, it has to be a temporary appointment of someone not at a club at the moment. The Chuckle Brothers have shown their incompetence, in fact if there was anyone above them, they’d be down the road with Mick by now.
They should admit it’s all gone wrong and find someone respected to come in and help just until the end of the season if they can. At the moment we’re not only making our club look foolish we’re also looking cheap in trying to poach anyone who’ll have us.
Leave it now til the close season and do a proper review with professional advice and get a young manager with lots of promise. Eddie howe for me. But we just don’t have time to do it properly now.
its been apparent for years and now its been proven 2 have come to light fat greasey controller the BIGGEST problem stoke fans will vouch 4 that bob should fuck him off now wilkins 4 me plz fowb
agree about Howe Martin. Si it’s TC to the end of the season-GULP.
Tim Nash Just Tweeted,
Its now back on for Walter Smith ! ??
He Tweeted last night Smith had said no..!
Still waiting to hear when my interview will be..
Being reported Smith considering a revised offer – thought Everton were poor under Walter and i have rarely enjoyed watching rangers but things may have to get worse before they get better.
Walter Smith has been offered Job until end of season according to Tim Nash. He will decide later today.
What a joke, sack Mick and replace him with someone worse for 12 games..
Moxley OUT !!
Has to be the new call…
Desperation. Lunchtime O’Bruce on hearing this will go on a massive bender. Shambles-no disrespect to Walter.
http://www.shropshirestar.com/sport/wolverhampton-wanderers-fc/2012/02/23/wolves-manager-job-offered-to-walter-smith/
Seems like Walter it is . . . . . better than Bruce?
A lot better. He only left Rangers as he knew what was coming. In terms of his second spell at the club hes won leaue titles and cups, and got to the final of a European compertition all on a shoe string budget. He plays a very tactical defensive style of football…which will go a long way to solving our defensive frailties…
Talk of McCoist coming too.
Jesus I’ve had enough Moxey OUT
Walter Smith would be an excellent appointment. People underestimate how highly regarded he is in the game. Miles better than Bruce.
I agree, he is a far better option than Bruce imo.
He’s been there and done it at a high level for a long time, so he must SURELY have some ideas and changes of direction to bring to the table.
He’s also very well respected, so can hopefully attract good back room staff and, in the long-term, players (if he’s actually hired AND gets that far).
In the long-term ? he’s 63 and retired.
He retired because he knew what Craig White had done, so got out of Rangers ahead of the slaughter with his reputation intact! As for his age…he is younger than Alex Ferguson…and the same age as Arsene Wenger…hardly over the hill!
Based on what exactly…
Mick McCarthy is highly regarded in the game, so is Lee Clark..
There’s the game.. then there’s the Premier League… 2 different things completely.
I will get behind the manager and the players whoever comes in, but I cannot see this being an improvement on where we were 2 weeks ago. Time will tell
Moxley OUT !!
Based on the accounts of some of the best players and managers in the game.
I bet the last ten days has had a really positive impact on ” Early Bird ” sales !
Whatever we may feel about Smith he is an excellent defensive coach, and as we all know that’s the area
that needs organising and improving. Jody will come into the reckoning if Smith appointed.
If and when an appointment is made,probably at the point of a gun,I can’t wait to hear the spin from Morgan and Moxey as they try to explain the debacle which has made the club a laughing stock.
Lets see if he can keep us up First.. If not He’ll be gone, and its back to a whole summer of people turning us down..
If he keeps us up he is the new messiah
Moxley OUT !!! either way..
Greaseball and Morgoon will be crowing about what a coup they have pulled off. How they never doubted such a quality appointment.
Poor old Lunchtime O’Bruce will be seen with his nose pressed up at the window bloated and pissed shouting”that’s my job”.
FOGREASEBALLAND MORGOON.
Cannot wait for the ‘spin’ on the WW website if Smith is appointed; something like…
“Though we approached 17 other candidates, Steve and I always had Walter at the back of our minds as our preferred candidate. We needed however to be sure that he really was the right man for WW and thus we obviously had to check out the credentials of the 16 others that we have spoken to” JM
By the way if you have relied on the official website for information over the last ten days you could be mistaken for thinking that there is no news and nothing going on!
Should have waited for 1.30 news from BBC. Pat Murphy suggests Walter has said NO as well.
Back to Bruce, Jones and TC according to him.
He is that good…that no way he would touch us with a barge pole!!!!! The farce continues!
Just so pissed off about this saga what a disgraceful deviant pair cheapskates we’ve got running OUR club always trying to do it on the cheap just a total laughing stock of the football
world i think,never thought it would be so hard to get a manager in here.
Looks like walter smith has turned us down now so whats that say about OUR club nobody wants it,I’m still going for Butch Wilkins as my choice.Don’t fancy TC until the end of season
because it will be the same old shite we’ve seen for the past three years.FOTC.
Haha gutted you didn’t get mcdermott! Wolves is a sinking ship championship here you go!